2018 NBA offseason thread

TheRooster

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Blazers aren't tendering qualifying offer to Pat Connaughton making him an UFA.

This kid really should have stuck to baseball.
Depends on how you look at it. He made around 2.5M on his first contract and just averaged 18 minutes per game on a 49 win team. Now he'll either sign for 2-3M per or he'll go back to baseball. Either way he'll forever be able to say he made it in the Association.
 

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Some twitter talk that Lebron may actually sign at midnight, but either way it now seems like a foregone conclusion that it's the Lakers.

And this:

 

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Is there no longer a moratorium period? I thought there were a few (5?) days at least until signings could actually occur in July.
 

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Depends on how you look at it. He made around 2.5M on his first contract and just averaged 18 minutes per game on a 49 win team. Now he'll either sign for 2-3M per or he'll go back to baseball. Either way he'll forever be able to say he made it in the Association.
I always looked at it as he had a real change to be an elite pitcher. He never had a chance to be an elite NBA player.

Connaughton did bank a few dollars but missing a min of 5 years of a pitching career will be a tough obstacle to overcome.
 

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The "moratorium" is however long it takes the league's accountants to compute BRI and all of the numbers that flow from it.
 

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For all you CAPologists out there. Just watched Bobby Marks (ESPN) talk about OKC's salary cap/luxury tax/repeater tax (4 of 5yrs)

If Paul George comes back at $30.3M they get hit with a $92M tax this season... OMG

Every player they sign after is exponentially more expensive.

Time to take Sam Presti behind the barn and shoot him.
 

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Windhorst on ESPN.

- Lebron James is moving towards becoming a Los Angeles Laker

- Lakers will talk with Lebron over the next 24-48 hours

- Other players will become available to Lakers once Lebron signs if he does

- Lakers have to sell him on coming to LA with or without another star
 

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Some twitter talk that Lebron may actually sign at midnight, but either way it now seems like a foregone conclusion that it's the Lakers.

And this:

I'm fascinated with how the Lakers are going to build this team around Lebron assuming he signs there.

If Paul George is willing to go, it's pretty easy. They stretch Deng and renounce everybody to fit them in. Then use Lonzo/Ingram/Kuzma/picks for Kawhi or a different third star.

But if George stays in OKC, the Lakers could go a bunch of different directions. They'll have their young assets, all their future picks, cap space and Bird rights on Randle, Lopez, IT and Frye and non-Bird rights on KCP. Could have a bunch of sign-and-trade scenarios there. I'd also bet Lebron gets them to trade Deng and his garbage contract with cash and an asset or sign-and-trade guy to OKC for Melo and his garbage contract. Then sign Dwyane Wade with the room exception. Build that 2010 all star team.
 
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I always looked at it as he had a real change to be an elite pitcher. He never had a chance to be an elite NBA player.

Connaughton did bank a few dollars but missing a min of 5 years of a pitching career will be a tough obstacle to overcome.
Orioles could use him right now. They probably could use you.
 

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For all you CAPologists out there. Just watched Bobby Marks (ESPN) talk about OKC's salary cap/luxury tax/repeater tax (4 of 5yrs)

If Paul George comes back at $30.3M they get hit with a $92M tax this season... OMG

Every player they sign after is exponentially more expensive.

Time to take Sam Presti behind the barn and shoot him.
Presti did a great job making probably the most obvious draft pick in history and really nailing the Westbrook/Harden/Ibaka picks, which were less obvious. Everything else has been a bit rough.
 

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I like the move to LA for Lebron if he sees it as a 2 year building project. He won’t beat GS this year with Ball, Ingram, Kuzma and some vets. But if he waits until next year when LA can land Kawhi, maybe Klay Thompson leaves via free agency, LA could be the team to beat in 2019-2020.
 

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I'm fascinated with how the Lakers are going to build this team around Lebron assuming he signs there.

If Paul George is willing to go, it's pretty easy. They stretch Deng and renounce everybody to fit them in. Then use Lonzo/Ingram/Kuzma/picks for Kawhi or a different third star.

But if George stays in OKC, the Lakers could go a bunch of different directions. They'll have their young assets, all their future picks, cap space and Bird rights on Randle, Lopez, IT and Frye and non-Bird rights on KCP. Could have a bunch of sign-and-trade scenarios there. I'd also bet Lebron gets them to trade Deng and his garbage contract with cash and an asset or sign-and-trade guy to OKC for Melo and his garbage contract. Then sign Dwyane Wade with the room exception. Build that 2010 all star team.
Agreed. Lakers will be interesting to watch after signing Lebron.

A. sign Paul George or Boogie
B. trade for Kawhi

If they can't get A or B done, consider trading for one of these guys:
C. trade for Kemba Walker
D. trade for Tobias Harris
E. trade for Marc Gasol

Use Ball and Ingram as deal bait.

Keep Hart, Kuzma, Wagner as super cheap/young/energy bench/rotation pieces

Add 3-4 veteran/cheap ring chasers/LA lovers to fill bench out: Mbah a Moute, Swaggy P, Wade, Rondo, Redick, Ellington, Beasley, Danny Green, McGee, West, Baynes, Nogueira, O'Quinn, Vince Carter, Jarrett Jack, Devin Harris, Bryn Forbes.
 

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Agreed. Lakers will be interesting to watch after signing Lebron.

A. sign Paul George or Boogie
B. trade for Kawhi

If they can't get A or B done, consider trading for one of these guys:
C. trade for Kemba Walker
D. trade for Tobias Harris
E. trade for Marc Gasol

Use Ball and Ingram as deal bait.

Keep Hart, Kuzma, Wagner as super cheap/young/energy bench/rotation pieces

Add 3-4 veteran/cheap ring chasers/LA lovers to fill bench out: Mbah a Moute, Swaggy P, Wade, Rondo, Redick, Ellington, Beasley, Danny Green, McGee, West, Baynes, Nogueira, O'Quinn, Vince Carter, Jarrett Jack, Devin Harris, Bryn Forbes.
Boogie? I dunno...I'd be very shy of him despite his obvious talents when healthy. I definitely wouldn't put him in the Paul George category.

To me PG is the obvious 2nd choice. In a vacuum I like a healthy Kawhi better (I'm sure I'm not alone in that), but PG sure as hell seems like a safer bet -- willing to be a complementary player, seemingly healthy, and by not having to trade assets the Lakers keep the depth that has been an achilles heel for the Cavs.
 

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Boogie? I dunno...I'd be very shy of him despite his obvious talents when healthy. I definitely wouldn't put him in the Paul George category.

To me PG is the obvious 2nd choice. In a vacuum I like a healthy Kawhi better (I'm sure I'm not alone in that), but PG sure as hell seems like a safer bet -- willing to be a complementary player, seemingly healthy, and by not having to trade assets the Lakers keep the depth that has been an achilles heel for the Cavs.
I'll be shocked if PG doesn't join Lebron in LA.

EDIT--and it looks like I may be shocked
 
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DeMarcus Cousins sounds like an increasingly likely target for the Lakers on a short-term max contract now that it appears Los Angeles will lose out on Paul George, per league sources. In January 2017, LeBron James called Cousins "the best big man in our game."
 

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Sources: Thunder GM Sam Presti wanted to hold the Thunder's meeting with Paul George in OKC -- with a party that's one more element to the franchise's year-long recruiting effort on George. OKC officials, George and his agent are meeting tonight.
 

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DeMarcus Cousins sounds like an increasingly likely target for the Lakers on a short-term max contract now that it appears Los Angeles will lose out on Paul George, per league sources. In January 2017, LeBron James called Cousins "the best big man in our game."
That would make for a very good team but not one I would fear.
 

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That would make for a very good team but not one I would fear.
Assuming the Laker and Cavs (if last season) role players are a wash or close to it, we are looking at replacing Love with Cousins. Add Kawhi and you're at Warrior level.

I would fear any LeBron team with a legit second star even without Kawhi. The question is Cousins health.
 

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I need to see Cousins first. Blown Achilles have historically been devastating for NBA players.
 

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With Kawhi it’d be pretty formidable.
Boogie's achilles and Kawhi's quad make the variance huge, though. And LeBron, while seemingly ageless and indestructible, will be 34, with more NBA mileage than any player that age has ever had.
 

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He likely won’t have a chance to play for the Lakers now. Talk about fucking over the Pacers last year, nobody wanted him because they assumed LA was a foregone conclusion.

Of course, Olasipo turned into a stud, but that was pure luck for the Pacers. George put them in a shitty position.
 

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He likely won’t have a chance to play for the Lakers now. Talk about fucking over the Pacers last year, nobody wanted him because they assumed LA was a foregone conclusion.
Indy did make out quite well in that trade though.