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mabrowndog

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Martin Kaymer cards a 63. That ties Greg Norman, Fred Couples, and Roberto Castro for the TPC course record.
 

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Martin Kaymer cards a 63. That ties Greg Norman, Fred Couples, and Roberto Castro for the TPC course record.
 
Kaymer is a great golfer with loads of talent and no closing ability.  I'll be shocked if he makes the top ten.
 

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I saw an interview with Kaymer last week at the Wells Fargo where he said that he's finally at the point where he considers his swing overhaul complete. He said that going into it he was expecting a 9-month struggle but that it ended up taking him 3 years to complete and that he's finally at the point where he's comfortable and his swing is now second nature where he's not constantly thinking about it.

I'll be curious to see how he holds up this week, and throughout the rest of the season. He played well Thursday and Friday last week, but fizzled on the weekend again.
 

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There have been some low rounds out on the course today, but nobody in the morning wave has made a run at Kaymer.
 

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Another rules debacle unfolding here, though I think ultimately they got this one right. Justin Rose thought his ball moved yesterday when he was addressing it for a chip on 18. He called over Sergio immediately, then after finishing the hole (before signing his card) he met with the officials to review. It was pretty hard to tell if it moved based on the NBC coverage, but apparently Sky Sports had a more conclusive shot of it, so Rose was penalized 1-shot for the ball moving and 1-shot for not replacing it. So Rose ends his day at -5. Apparently the PGA initially decided the HD rule did not come into play because Rose's actions indicated he saw something. Fast forward to today, Rose is on the putting green preparing for his round when they tell him the penalty was rescinded due to the HD rule. 
 
It was the right call, but they've got to find some way to expedite the process. 
 

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Justin Rose was assessed a two-shot penalty yesterday after a review of video showed that his ball moved slightly when he soled his club (but did not strike the ball).
 
Today they rescinded the penalty because the ball's movement wasn't discernible by the naked eye and there are new rules in place limiting the scope with which video review can be used.
 
So my question is if the new rules limit how far they can take the video review and the ruling ultimately came down to what was discernible to the naked eye, why did they take the time to meticulously examine the video for the violation in the first place?  Couldn't they have just looked at the replay, saw that the ball's movement was indiscernible, and left it that?  Instead they waste 30+ minutes reviewing it, assess a penalty, then back-track.  Yikes.
 

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Rose's reaction is what did it. He reacted as if he saw something, so therefor they originally determined that must've been discernible by the naked eye and the HD rule didn't apply. The fact they had to link up satellite feeds, enhance and zoom in on the picture, set up conference calls amongst the USGA, R&A and PGA Tour just to figure out if a golf ball moved a dimple or two is petty ridiculous. They're treating these things like they're analyzing the Zapruder film. 
 
Rose is in a pretty interesting spot. In contention, but on the course 2 hours before the leaders since they obviously couldn't move around the tee times and pairings. 
 

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cshea said:
Rose's reaction is what did it. He reacted as if he saw something, so therefor they originally determined that must've been discernible by the naked eye and the HD rule didn't apply. The fact they had to link up satellite feeds, enhance and zoom in on the picture, set up conference calls amongst the USGA, R&A and PGA Tour just to figure out if a golf ball moved a dimple or two is petty ridiculous. They're treating these things like they're analyzing the Zapruder film. 
 
Rose is in a pretty interesting spot. In contention, but on the course 2 hours before the leaders since they obviously couldn't move around the tee times and pairings. 
 
I guess what strikes me is that if Rose thought he saw something, why wasn't the ruling made based on that, at least initially?  Instead, it seems as if they didn't want to rule on it before reviewing the video intensely, then they rescinded the ruling because they shouldn't have been reviewing it so intensely.
 
What would the procedure have been before the era of hyper HD video and every movement of every player being captured at every tournament?  To me, that's what they seem to want to get back to with the HD rules, they might as well do that and not bother with video review at all in cases where the players are making the initial calls themselves.
 

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I guess Rose would've had to have made the decision himself. He didn't make any decision on his own yesterday since he knew the video would be available to review. 
 
Anywho, I like Spieth today. 
 

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I like Spieth as well today, I just don't see Kaymer keeping his composure for  the rest of the day.  Also I love the sunday pin placement on 17th. That is going to be a great hole to watch today.
 

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cshea said:
I guess Rose would've had to have made the decision himself. He didn't make any decision on his own yesterday since he knew the video would be available to review. 
 
Anywho, I like Spieth today. 
And that's the kind of cop out that would have everyone here roasting Tiger.  Because ultimately the penalty is his to call.  And since Rose was the one who requested that replay be used to check what he himself reported, I don't know why the HD rule would apply. 
 
I'm not really criticizing Rose here, as from everything I've read he was fine with the original decision.  But IMO, the penalty was the correct call and it should not have been rescinded.
 

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Miller is such a miserable prick
 
"well if you can't do that Sunday at the player's then maybe you should try something else"
fuck you
 

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Nothing better than watching Westwood miss a 3 foot putt for birdie. Great player, great game, but can't putt, especially on Sunday's. Cannot.Do.It.
 

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Holy crap.  Double by Kaymer on 15, and now Furyk is one back.  I really hope Furyk can pull this out.  Would be a great moment towards the end of a great career.
 

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Wow, that was close. 
 
That won't be an easy up and down. Awkward stance and he's got to carry the ridge in the middle of the green. 
 

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Kaymer almost put his ball in the water on the first shot, hit a horrendous chip on his second shot, and the flat stick gives him a par. Drive for show, putt for dough indeed.
 

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Considering the circumstances that's one of the best putts I've ever seen. I still can't believe that went in.
 

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What a fantastic finish to a great golf tournament.  Wasn't really rooting for Kaymer, but that putt was outrageous.  And the cool 1.8 million that goes with it is pretty nice, although I'm not sure how much the money matters to most of these guys anymore.  The ratings may say otherwise, but IMO, golf has done just fine as far as excitement goes without Tiger around.
 

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What a fantastic finish to a great golf tournament.  Wasn't really rooting for Kaymer, but that putt was outrageous.  And the cool 1.8 million that goes with it is pretty nice, although I'm not sure how much the money matters to most of these guys anymore.  The ratings may say otherwise, but IMO, golf has done just fine as far as excitement goes without Tiger around.
 
The ratings definitely say otherwise, but it has been very exciting to watch golf even though Tiger isn't playing. But I'm not a casual fan. Right now, the casual fan has left the building. Maybe the young phenom, "20 year old" Jordan Spieth can bring them back?
 

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Miller is such a miserable prick
 
"well if you can't do that Sunday at the player's then maybe you should try something else"
fuck you
 
I heard that as well and nearly spat out my drink.
 
While amusing in a train wreck fashion, the "get off my lawn" years are not being kind to Johnny Miller. 
 

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Mike Weir starts with a birdie on 1 to tie for the lead, then nearly aces #2. Jammed leader board so who knows what will happen, but Weir winning would be a heck of a story. 
 

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Weir is throwing darts. 4 birdies and a par in his first 5 holes. Longest birdie putt so far was a mere 7 feet.