bowiac said:On the other hand, he hired Addazio, who doesn't inspire much faith.
Shhhh. The BC faithful think Addazio is the second coming of Jesus Coughlin.
bowiac said:On the other hand, he hired Addazio, who doesn't inspire much faith.
Average Reds said:I watched about two minutes of Hoke at his press conference today responding to questions about his handling of the Shane Morris incident. He was extremely evasive and looked to place blame everywhere except where it belongs, which is with him as head coach.
Sea Dog said:
And right on cue, Dave Brandon releases a statement past midnight that basically absolves Hoke of blame. The gist of it ...
"Following the game, a comprehensive concussion evaluation was completed and Shane has been evaluated twice since the game," Brandon said in the statement. "As of Sunday, Shane was diagnosed with a probable, mild concussion, and a high ankle sprain. That probable concussion diagnosis was not at all clear on the field on Saturday or in the examination that was conducted post-game. Unfortunately, there was inadequate communication between our physicians and medical staff and Coach [Brady] Hoke was not provided the updated diagnosis before making a public statement on Monday. This is another mistake that cannot occur again."
What makes you say this? Addazzio has done a nice job thus far. Plus, I'm sure what you would expect BC to be able to draw - pretty sure no established coaching studs are lining up for that job.bowiac said:On the other hand, he hired Addazio, who doesn't inspire much faith.
Sea Dog said:And right on cue, Dave Brandon releases a statement past midnight that basically absolves Hoke of blame.
Dick Pole Upside said:
I read that differently... that Brandon is throwing Hoke squarely under the bus.
Since Morris was diagnosed with a concussion on Sunday, and this release didn't come out until early Tuesday am, my junior-cadet-conspiracy-theorist interpretation is that Brandon spent all day yesterday trying to convince the Training/Medical staff to modify its report (after all, the media was told a press release would be issued 'within the hour' during yesterday's presser) to make everything seem like proper protocol was followed. When the Training/Medical staff held firm on their version of the events, Brandon had to figure out how to spin the message as best he could... and it infers that Hoke was not in command of the situation on the sideline no matter how you read it. Hoke said he hadn't spoken with Brandon, yet Brandon indicates he spoke extensively "with all involved". Huh?
Brandon trying to save his own a$$ under cover of darkness... Training/Medical staff trying to maintain their integrity... Hoke trying to brush the tire treads off his back.
Dick Pole Upside said:
I read that differently... that Brandon is throwing Hoke squarely under the bus.
Since Morris was diagnosed with a concussion on Sunday, and this release didn't come out until early Tuesday am, my junior-cadet-conspiracy-theorist interpretation is that Brandon spent all day yesterday trying to convince the Training/Medical staff to modify its report (after all, the media was told a press release would be issued 'within the hour' during yesterday's presser) to make everything seem like proper protocol was followed. When the Training/Medical staff held firm on their version of the events, Brandon had to figure out how to spin the message as best he could... and it infers that Hoke was not in command of the situation on the sideline no matter how you read it. Hoke said he hadn't spoken with Brandon, yet Brandon indicates he spoke extensively "with all involved". Huh?
Brandon trying to save his own a$$ under cover of darkness... Training/Medical staff trying to maintain their integrity... Hoke trying to brush the tire treads off his back.
canderson said:Could Morris' family sue Hoke/UM for neglect? Slate's Hang Up and Listen's episode yesterday was extremely damning.
Hang up and Listen suggested there was a possible lawsuit out there?canderson said:Could Morris' family sue Hoke/UM for neglect? Slate's Hang Up and Listen's episode yesterday was extremely damning.
I mean he and his parents.WayBackVazquez said:
Shane Morris is 20 years old. From where do you get your understanding that Mommies and Daddies might be able to sue people on behalf of grown, competent men?
canderson said:I mean he and his parents.
bowiac, they didn't say a suit was happening but it could be open to one potentially. They I assume know little about if it is possible, I was just asking since I know little about lawsuits.
I know you discussed and covered this but one minor point.. You keep saying Morris is a competent adult but I thought in most cases, adulthood is not assumed until age 21? I agree that Morris and his family do not a case but disagee with your snarkily dismissal of his "Mommies and Daddy " filing a lawsuit on behalf of their son.WayBackVazquez said:
His parents can't sue anybody. Well, they can't sue and not have it dismissed.
Everybody is theoretically "open to a lawsuit potentially." But not really. There's no "neglect" claim available to a 20 year-old man. The only claim I can even fathom Shane having would be a negligence suit. So, in addition to proving that Michigan breached a duty of care to him, Shane would have to prove that the breach caused him to suffer harm resulting in quantifiable damages. But how would he do that? They didn't do anything wrong that CAUSED him to get the concussion, unless you think letting him play QB at all with such a shittastic line was a breach of the duty of care. So they put him back in the game. So what? He didn't get injured more, did he? If not, putting him back in didn't cause him harm, and he has no claim.
This is not even getting into the questions of what damages he would be entitled to, and whether he consented or assumed the risk.
I'm not a lawyer (wait, maybe I am), but the age of majority in Michigan appears to be 18.richgedman'sghost said:I know you discussed and covered this but one minor point.. You keep saying Morris is a competent adult but I thought in most cases, adulthood is not assumed until age 21? I agree that Morris and his family do not a case but disagee with your snarkily dismissal of his "Mommies and Daddy " filing a lawsuit on behalf of their son.
Reporting of someone's alleged shortcomings even remotely related to the subject of football is now low-hanging fruit, no? I mean, TMZ was the outlet reporting on the Rice video, so there's that. And there was Hannah Storm talking about how she had to endure explaining a domestic violence case to her shielded daughters. The horror. Anyway, I'm getting off topic. Sorry.twibnotes said:Even "The Today Show" is reporting on Hoke's failure to yank Morris.
richgedman'sghost said:I know you discussed and covered this but one minor point.. You keep saying Morris is a competent adult but I thought in most cases, adulthood is not assumed until age 21? I agree that Morris and his family do not a case but disagee with your snarkily dismissal of his "Mommies and Daddy " filing a lawsuit on behalf of their son.
Zososoxfan said:Petition to fire Dave Brandon:
https://csg.umich.edu/upetition/p/fire-brandon/
You need a uniqname and password, but you do not need to be a current student. Almost 3000 signatures at my last check.
I think that's right, and only a couple of states are even 19 (Alabama and Nebraska, and the latter only if you're unmarried). Everywhere else it's 18 (well, Puerto Rico is 19 too, I guess).WayBackVazquez said:
I believe Mississippi is the only state in the country where the age of majority is 21.
Add Delaware at 19. And two - Arkansas and Tennessee that have caveats: 18 or graduation from HS, whichever comes later, so it could potentially be 21 in these states.SumnerH said:I think that's right, and only a couple of states are even 19 (Alabama and Nebraska, and the latter only if you're unmarried). Everywhere else it's 18 (well, Puerto Rico is 19 too, I guess).
I do not believe your info about Ark and Tenn is accurate.SoxJox said:Add Delaware at 19. And two - Arkansas and Tennessee that have caveats: 18 or graduation from HS, whichever comes later, so it could potentially be 21 in these states.
You are correct. I had lazily relied on multiple informal sites that listed them as 18 with the caveats. Have now looked at the specific statute in AK and TN and do see that it is indeed 18 - without caveat.WayBackVazquez said:I do not believe your info about Ark and Tenn is accurate.
AK and TN have been addressed, but Delaware is 18, too. http://delcode.delaware.gov/title1/c007/index.shtmlSoxJox said:Add Delaware at 19. And two - Arkansas and Tennessee that have caveats: 18 or graduation from HS, whichever comes later, so it could potentially be 21 in these states.
Fred in Lynn said:Couldn't Morris have taken himself out?
ethangl said:And you could definitely speculate that is part of the culture that Hoke has created, so he bears the ultimate responsibility.
Average Reds said:
IIRC, Hoke burned a timeout and one of the assistants came out to get Lewan and walked him to the sidelines.
ethangl said:
If so, I can't figure out why a TO wasn't called once there was confusion re: Bellomy's helmet. The game was basically over at that point. Fog of war, I guess.
CONS: Wears Britney Spears mic on sidelines. Inveterate job-hopper. Bad haircut.
OVERALL: Bo would die again if Michigan had a guy with that mic.
Have fun and be careful. Keep your eyes open for Csont'e York... and then duck.twibnotes said:I am playing in an alumni hockey game (for the business school, lest anyone think I was good enough to play varsity hockey at Michigan) and Bacon is said to be joining. Hope to have a chance to chat with him about all his craziness.
I really feel like the time for Miles has since passed.tims4wins said:http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/travis-haney/post?id=3654
This post makes me think there is a real chance to land the Hatter
I'm no college football junkie, but are there many examples of coaches starting a new job in their 60s and having significant success? Maybe Steve Spurrier at South Carolina? Most of the cases I can think of (Lou Holtz, Dennis Erickson) haven't gone too well. Doing the job in your 60s when you have everything already in place is one thing, but starting new somewhere and building or rebuilding a program seems like another.Dgilpin said:I really feel like the time for Miles has since passed.
I'm have a hard time blaming RichRod too much for Mallett. From every account I've read, Carr told Mallett to leave. Rodriguez wasn't given much of a chance to keep him. I'm mostly in the bag for RichRod, but the main case against him for me was the special team stuff. The team's inability to field a punt or kick a field goal for three years was simply mind boggling, and makes me wonder how that could happen.Chemistry Schmemistry said:I don't think a good coach would have lost that Toledo game, nor would he have run off Ryan Mallett. It was the epitome of stubbornness and me-at-all-costs. I have full confidence things will implode at Arizona, though, obviously, today is a big day for him.
WayBackVazquez said:
Shhhh. The BC faithful think Addazio is the second coming of Jesus Coughlin.
The thing is, despite it being untrue, I absolutely CAN believe you're saying it.berniecarbo1 said:No.....not Jesus Coughlin, more like Pope Francis....I can't beleive I am saying this but right now, you would take BC's coach over your own coach.....how the mighty have fallen, and stayed down for the count.
bowiac said:I'm have a hard time blaming RichRod too much for Mallett. From every account I've read, Carr told Mallett to leave. Rodriguez wasn't given much of a chance to keep him. I'm mostly in the bag for RichRod, but the main case against him for me was the special team stuff. The team's inability to field a punt or kick a field goal for three years was simply mind boggling, and makes me wonder how that could happen.