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I am so excited that Borges is gone, but the title of this thread should be "Salt and Peppers."
 
EDIT: I have not been this excited about Michigan football/program since the Sugar Bowl.
 

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Inconsistent and bizarre play calling - even during the 2011 season (see, Iowa, MSU).  I'm now worried that Hoke gets his "MANBALL" OC after all.
 

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So what kind of scheme do y'all want this time?
I would want spread 'n shred, but I would settle and kind expect someone who is going to try a NFL-style passing spread.
 

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Apparently Sam Webb reporting that the "downhill" running philosophy must remain prominent in the offensive plans.

That said, a change was needed. Regression in all phases of offense over last three years. Completely unacceptable, especially with the talent on hand.
 

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I would want spread 'n shred, but I would settle and kind expect someone who is going to try a NFL-style passing spread.
 
Wouldn't be surprised if this is where they net out.  Hoke, for all the struggles, has recruited for a manball system, and I don't see them abandoning the pro style approach completely.  I would love to see them hire someone who can run the kind of offense O'Brien ran at PSU...basically the Pats approach where you run the ball and use playaction from traditional sets, but you're unafraid to run hurry up, spread the field and sling it.  Not a gimicky spread, a flexible offense that can be tailored for the opponent.
 

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Cam Cameron sounds likely from what a few sources on twitter are reporting. Will apparently be announced tomorrow.
 

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Cam Cameron sounds likely from what a few sources on twitter are reporting. Will apparently be announced tomorrow.
Nope. Nussmeier.
 
I just want a guy that will get the most out of the players. I hope he's the guy.
 

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To follow up on sach's post....

 
Bruce Feldman ‏@BFeldmanCBS 2m
#Michigan hires OC Doug Nussmeier away from #Alabama, per source:
 
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/bruce-feldman/24402908/michigan-hires-oc-nussmeier-away-from-alabama
 
Alabama OC Doug Nussmeier will become the new Michigan offensive coordinator, a source told CBS Wednesday. The move was driven by a strong recruiting effort by coach Brady Hoke and Wolverines AD Dave Brandon that included a robust financial commitment to Nussmeier, who now will be among the five highest-paid coordinators in college football, according to the source
 
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Uh, ok. I have no thoughts about this other than "anything is better than Borges".
 

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Former QB, strong links to 5-star Ricky Town.

Alabama features power running game with multiple backs. Likes a big, nasty OL. I think Michigan has comparable, if not better talent at WR and TE. Will be interesting to see how he works with these position groups. Not sure where I see Funchess in a Nussmeier offense...

I like it.
 

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This seems to be the best thing I've found thus far:
 
There’s no question that the offense has opened up more under Nussmeier. Alabama’s bread and butter in the passing game are still shallow and intermediate routes, designed to attack the linebackers in space, but their use of vertical passing concepts has increased under Nussmeier. As a matter of fact, I actually wrote about this before the season. Nussmeier really seems to favor three verticals, typically with all three receivers (or two receivers and a tight end) lined up on the same side of the field. It has been tremendously effective, both due to the execution on the field and the timing of the play call. From a play calling standpoint, Nussmeier really seems to have a great sense for when a team is vulnerable on the back end, and that has proven quite valuable during his two years here.
As you made mention of, it’s certainly true that all of this is made possible because of the progress AJ McCarron has made as a quarterback. The 2011 version of McCarron would have a difficult time throwing the ball down the deep middle of the field, but the 2012 and 2013 versions have thrived in this area. He still lacks elite arm strength, but his mechanics are much improved – along with ability to go through his progressions and deliver the football on time, even to his third or fourth option. Once again, it’s nothing more than a guessing game when it comes to trying to determining how much of his progression is due to Nussmeier. Some natural progression is to be expected, and, over the summer, McCarron has a quarterback coach. But Nussmeier, as the quarterback’s coach, works very closely with the quarterbacks during the spring and throughout the season, so I certainly believe he deserves some amount of credit.
 

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This seems to be the best thing I've found thus far: "Nussmeier really seems to favor three verticals, typically with all three receivers (or two receivers and a tight end) lined up on the same side of the field. "
 
This has to make the reads easier for the QB right? Methinks DG would be helped greatly by this. From a general perspective, this would also seem to setup excellent misdirection, RB screen/wheel passes, and TE leak outs to the other side of the field,  
 
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They should have sent a poet.
 
Yup. 
 
trotsplits said:
Inconsistent and bizarre play calling - even during the 2011 season (see, Iowa, MSU).  I'm now worried that Hoke gets his "MANBALL" OC after all.
 
From everything I've read, I agreed with this sentiment. There's a lot of value in running spread and hybrid offenses in the college game, but since they just plucked one of the best manball OCs, it's hard to be dissapointed ATM. 
 

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From everything I've read, I agreed with this sentiment. There's a lot of value in running spread and hybrid offenses in the college game, but since they just plucked one of the best manball OCs, it's hard to be dissapointed ATM. 
An honest question: Why is one of the best manball OCs?
 

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I really hope somebody asks him about what he plans to do with the blocking scheme tomorrow at his press conference because it's kind of important. Alabama wasn't all power-O. In fact, they ran a lot of outside and inside zone. I hope that we do this because I think that it simplifies things and power blocking, pulling guards, etc are things that you can incorporate as guys get experience. WIth zone blocking, we can have guys get hat on hat, double team, or get to the second level. I think it would benefit this young line a lot. Again, I want the players to be positioned to be successful. Zone blocking is simpler but very effective.
 

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I really hope somebody asks him about what he plans to do with the blocking scheme tomorrow at his press conference because it's kind of important. Alabama wasn't all power-O. In fact, they ran a lot of outside and inside zone. I hope that we do this because I think that it simplifies things and power blocking, pulling guards, etc are things that you can incorporate as guys get experience. WIth zone blocking, we can have guys get hat on hat, double team, or get to the second level. I think it would benefit this young line a lot. Again, I want the players to be positioned to be successful. Zone blocking is simpler but very effective.
Nobody asked about this. Journalism is dead. PR is the new equilibrium.
 

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Nobody asked about this. Journalism is dead. PR is the new equilibrium.


The Alex Speiers are truly the exceptions.

In any case, I thought Nussmeier equipped himself well. I want to be optimistic that he will get the job done at this pivotal point in the Hoke era.
 

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Hoke always says there's competition for everything, so I wouldn't read too much into it. Barring huge strides from Shane or, god forbid, an injury to DG, I doubt Shane's the starting QB come this fall.
 

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sachmoney said:
Hoke always says there's competition for everything, so I wouldn't read too much into it. Barring huge strides from Shane or, god forbid, an injury to DG, I doubt Shane's the starting QB come this fall.
 
Pretty sure he said the opposite last year, but I'll make a friendly Jimmy Fund bet that Shane is the starting QB game 1.
 

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Pretty sure he said the opposite last year, but I'll make a friendly Jimmy Fund bet that Shane is the starting QB game 1.
Sold. $100?
 

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We got Peppers, so it's all good.
 
Meanwhile, McDowell committed to State, but his mom isn't happy and isn't letting him go there. His LOI hasn't been signed/submitted yet.
 

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Positive news - UM lands a 4-star CB/S out of Virginia, Garrett Taylor. Michigan has been recruiting the secondary very well for the past few years and this should pay big dividends down the road, especially in light of more teams going to the spread. Anyway, I'll let the experts thrash this around a bit, but certainly good news! 
 
Here's a free write-up from Bleacher Report - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2003891-garrett-taylor-commits-to-michigan-what-versatile-4-star-brings-to-wolverines#articles/2003891-garrett-taylor-commits-to-michigan-what-versatile-4-star-brings-to-wolverines
 

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I didn't realize that Taylor was so highly ranked. I was going to come in here and throw a wet blanket on the excitement and talk about how it doesn't matter until they get results on the field. It's nice to see us do well in Virginia. I know we missed out on Hand, but landing Speight and Green has been huge. It seems that Roy Manning has been doing work. He's not surprisingly our best recruiter at the moment (let's be honest, most young former players are). On the scheme side, it sounds like Nussmeier is simplifying things for the offensive line and it seems to be a positive. If the OL can get right, I think that's a game changer for DG, the backs, and the receivers. That's obvious though.
 

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Bosch's quote about there being "just ONE call, not one call... with an adjustment to that call and a potential adjustment to THAT call" leading to three guys going one way, two guys going the other on any given snap made me shake my head.
 
At present, they've got some great back-end talent committed for '15 with Crawford, Kinnel, and now Taylor.  Need to start thinking about more OL and DL in that class to create the next layer following the current batch of red-cheeked big uglies.
 

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Bosch's quote about there being "just ONE call, not one call... with an adjustment to that call and a potential adjustment to THAT call" leading to three guys going one way, two guys going the other on any given snap made me shake my head.
Weird that Borges, who had the smarts and coaching aptitude to adapt his offense for Denard Robinson was apparently blind to the fact that he needed to simplify his blocking schemes for a very young and inexperienced interior line.
 

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In other news, John U Bacon basically murders DB.
I like Bacon and read a few of his books, including the recent Big Ten one, but his ongoing contention that Brandon is over-marketing Michigan is becoming overplayed. Yes, Brandon does at times fail to account for the fact that Michigan is different from a typical product you market in the private sector, but Bacon tries to ascribe every attendance issue or other showing of declining fan interest to Brandon's tactics.

News flash: the team has been relatively lousy of late, and the future of the program is on less than solid ground. Better team, more season tickets scooped up, more seats filled etc. It's also a lousy economy
 

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It's certainly not just a DB problem, but you can't say that he hasn't helped make things worse. The team is the most important factor, but as you said, it's a lousy economy and he's raising ticket prices on everyone. He just seems to be out of touch and is more about the razzle dazzle than the fundamentals of what will make things better. College football gets a bad wrap for exploiting its players, but DB wants to exploit the fans as well. Michigan shouldn't be run like a professional franchise that relies on marketing to maintain its identity. Michigan should be Michigan. The team should be great and the experience should be special. 
 
We probably wouldn't even be talking about this if the team was actually good. We'd be talking about football.
 

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It's certainly not just a DB problem, but you can't say that he hasn't helped make things worse. The team is the most important factor, but as you said, it's a lousy economy and he's raising ticket prices on everyone. He just seems to be out of touch and is more about the razzle dazzle than the fundamentals of what will make things better. College football gets a bad wrap for exploiting its players, but DB wants to exploit the fans as well. Michigan shouldn't be run like a professional franchise that relies on marketing to maintain its identity. Michigan should be Michigan. The team should be great and the experience should be special. 
 
We probably wouldn't even be talking about this if the team was actually good. We'd be talking about football.
Agree with this 100 pct. Just think Bacon is beating the drum too loudly and too often. Some of what Brandon does is over the top and makes him seem tone deaf. Some of it, however, is just the inevitable change and prowess associated with modern college sports. Those new facilities - which student athletes find attractive - don't build themselves.

To your point though, if the team were good, it's not a topic.
 

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I saw the Bacon article on social media last week and although I love to participate in Michigan pile-ons, it was definitely over-the-top. The biggest issue threatening home attendance is the atrocious home schedule: Appalachian State, Miami University, Utah, Minnesota, Penn State, Indiana, Maryland. I don't think there's a worse home slate for a major conference team. Delaney really screwed over the Wolverines by making Michigan State, Ohio State, and Notre Dame away games in 2014.
 

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The OSU and ND games have been on the same home/away schedule for years. MSU is basically replacing ND in that rotation, and PSU slips in on the other side.
 

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Didn't buy season tix this year b/c I'm moving to Boulder in a few weeks. Michigan just sent an e-mail this morning to student ticket owners imploring them (well, technically it says "WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY" or something) to buy "bonus" seats for select games in the student section. No validation fee, so essentially Michigan is allowing students to buy more student tickets which can be sold to/used by the general public. They will be located in the student section but above season ticket holders, so this isn't quite a situation where Johnny can buy tickets for his girlfriend from EMU and have her come sit with him down in row 5.
 
App state tix are $20/each. All others are listed at $40/game.
 
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So Rutgers is apparently really trying to cash in on joining the Big Ten , just went to buy tickets for the Michigan-Rutgers game . $210 a piece for upper level sideline !
 

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So Rutgers is apparently really trying to cash in on joining the Big Ten , just went to buy tickets for the Michigan-Rutgers game . $210 a piece for upper level sideline !
I just moved to Northern NJ and was debating where I could pull this game off (my wife just gave birth to our first so I'd be using one of a small number of Fall get out of the house bullets)...think you just made the decision for me.