Hey just think, if we sweep the Cavs then Brad will hold an above .500 post-season record.
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Stevens is totally going for 40 tonight.Unfuckingbelievable. From the NYT:
"....Casey is also regarded as a top contender for the N.B.A.’s Coach of the Year award and, according to the people with knowledge of the voting for the N.B.C.A. award, was one of just eight coaches to receive votes in the balloting. The other seven coaches to receive votes from their peers were Philadelphia’s Brett Brown, Houston’s Mike D’Antoni, Indiana’s Nate McMillan, San Antonio’s Gregg Popovich, Utah’s Quin Snyder, Portland’s Terry Stotts and the Los Angeles Clippers’ Doc Rivers."
That quote is what everyone above you is already responding to....Unfuckingbelievable. From the NYT:
"....Casey is also regarded as a top contender for the N.B.A.’s Coach of the Year award and, according to the people with knowledge of the voting for the N.B.C.A. award, was one of just eight coaches to receive votes in the balloting. The other seven coaches to receive votes from their peers were Philadelphia’s Brett Brown, Houston’s Mike D’Antoni, Indiana’s Nate McMillan, San Antonio’s Gregg Popovich, Utah’s Quin Snyder, Portland’s Terry Stotts and the Los Angeles Clippers’ Doc Rivers."
Maybe that's a factor, but personality seems to weigh into these things too. I mean, Belichick himself has won AP NFL COTY 3 times, most recently in 2010, despite deserving it at least a majority of the years he's been at NE and arguably every year. And they don't get more lifer / insider than Bill Belichick. Voters everywhere gravitate towards the newest / sexiest shiny object, or who had managed to lower expectations the most and then managed to exceed them, rather than who objectively did the best job of shaping a team, preparing them, getting the most out of them, and managing in-game.Should we be shocked that the Coaches Association, likely made up of NBA lifers, isn't exactly taking a shine to the wunderkind that never played nor coached at the NBA level? He didn't receive a vote last year, either.
I think people are more mystified as to how Brad Stevens can't manage a single vote from amongst his peers.This is a fake award invented last year. Stevens will unquestionably get votes in the real COTY voting. I think less hypervenitilation is in order.
I’m a little disappointed in Pop...I think people are more mystified as to how Brad Stevens can't manage a single vote from amongst his peers.
Hey look, if Dwane Casey swept anyone twice, he still wouldn't have an above .500 playoff record.Hey just think, if we sweep the Cavs then Brad will hold an above .500 post-season record.
/baiting
Because he plays in the west and has possibly even less talent than Stevens on his team? Stevens is the best coach in the league right now and should be getting votes, but Quin Snyder is not the issue here.Why does Quin Snyder get votes for winning 48 games after losing Gordon Hayward, when Stevens won 55 games after losing him?
I assume its 1 vote per coach, without ranked voting.* Popovich has been effusive about Stevens, but Brown was his assistant. I could see none of the other 29 coaches ranking Stevens first but all of them ranking him 2nd, regardless of who they cast their only vote for.I think people are more mystified as to how Brad Stevens can't manage a single vote from amongst his peers.
What?This is a fake award invented last year. Stevens will unquestionably get votes in the real COTY voting. I think less hypervenitilation is in order.
different award. We're talking about the Michael H. Goldberg NBCA Coach of the Year Award
I believe Mr. Dokes’ post is in reference to the NBCA award not the NBA award.
Winning two playoff series with the president of the Lollipop Guild as his best player pretty well cements his HoF credentials.Hey just think, if we sweep the Cavs then Brad will hold an above .500 post-season record.
You're a master baiter./baiting
OK, so for the Red Auerbach Trophy, the NBA's own COTY award, Wiki tells me that sportswriters vote for that. In light of that, I'm now not sure which award holds more legitimacy in my mind...different award. We're talking about the Michael H. Goldberg NBCA Coach of the Year Award
http://www.nba.com/article/2017/05/07/inaugural-michael-goldberg-nbca-coach-year-award-mike-dantoni-erik-spoelstra
Whichever one our guy wins.OK, so for the Red Auerbach Trophy, the NBA's own COTY award, Wiki tells me that sportswriters vote for that. In light of that, I'm now not sure which award holds more legitimacy in my mind...
Coaches' Association names Casey "Coach of the Year"
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/09/sports/nba-dwane-casey-raptors-coach-of-the-year.html
Meh, OK. But this?
Casey is also regarded as a top contender for the N.B.A.’s Coach of the Year award and, according to the people with knowledge of the voting for the N.B.C.A. award, was one of just eight coaches to receive votes in the balloting. The other seven coaches to receive votes from their peers were Philadelphia’s Brett Brown, Houston’s Mike D’Antoni, Indiana’s Nate McMillan, San Antonio’s Gregg Popovich, Utah’s Quin Snyder, Portland’s Terry Stotts and the Los Angeles Clippers’ Doc Rivers.
Lolwut?
Everyone can calm down. This quote is obviously ridiculous.Unfuckingbelievable. From the NYT:
"....Casey is also regarded as a top contender for the N.B.A.’s Coach of the Year award and, according to the people with knowledge of the voting for the N.B.C.A. award, was one of just eight coaches to receive votes in the balloting. The other seven coaches to receive votes from their peers were Philadelphia’s Brett Brown, Houston’s Mike D’Antoni, Indiana’s Nate McMillan, San Antonio’s Gregg Popovich, Utah’s Quin Snyder, Portland’s Terry Stotts and the Los Angeles Clippers’ Doc Rivers."
Again, you are conflating awards.Everyone can calm down. This quote is obviously ridiculous.
By my count of the roughly 25% of ballots which have been made public, it's a tight race between Casey and Stevens, with Casey having a slight edge. Quin Snyder is coming in 3rd. The quote does have all of the other vote getters correct, however. They must have simply overlooked Stevens somehow. Doc Rivers does indeed have one 3rd place vote (from Shaun Powell of NBA.com). Shaun also voted Nate McMillan 2nd, leaving Stevens completely off of his ballot.
NOW you're getting it!!Sorry guys, I thought that quote had flipped context to a different award.
I agree that the omission of Stevens is interesting, but it has to be a mistake......right?
It's curious that Doc has a vote in both.
Not just for us mere mortals either:NOW you're getting it!!
It's so weird that it's hard to process at first.
I think the fact that Stevens never played in the league and was never an assistant puts him a bit on the outside of the club.Barkley calling NBA coaches petty for not voting for Stevens. lol
Well, the only way we could really know if they, collectively, as a group, felt like Stevens was an outlier, something somehow different would be to, well, poll them?NBA coaches have traditionally enjoyed a lot of job security, even when they were fired. Having college guys come up was no problem when they were fuckups like Pitino. If there’s a cohort of guys even half as good as Stevens many of these guys are in trouble.
From @luckiestman in the gamethread:Brett brown said he was surprised Stevens didn't get ant any votes. ( Paraphrasing). No one asked him who got his vote.
Disagree. How often does an NBA coach retool the offensive game of his whole team including one of its star players. That's a pretty impressive feat. If I'm running an NBA team, Stevens is hands-down the coach I'd want, but that doesn't mean the other guys suck.Also, your daily reminder that Dwayne Casey is a joke. "Hey guys, my team shoots 3s now!!!!! Where do I pick up my award?"
Dwayne Casey kinda sucks. The fact they added 3 point shooting 5 years late only adds to that fact.Disagree. How often does an NBA coach retool the offensive game of his whole team including one of its star players. That's a pretty impressive feat. If I'm running an NBA team, Stevens is hands-down the coach I'd want, but that doesn't mean the other guys suck.
Where do you get this information? The Raptors have been in the Top-10 in 3-point FGA several times under Casey despite their best offensive player not having this shot in his arsenal until this season. They had years when the entire 2nd unit was one big 3-point heave with Ross, Patterson, and Vasquez.Dwayne Casey kinda sucks. The fact they added 3 point shooting 5 years late only adds to that fact.
No. Making it worse, he is naturally modest. The real killer — he does not care about this at all.Should we be shocked that the Coaches Association, likely made up of NBA lifers, isn't exactly taking a shine to the wunderkind that never played nor coached at the NBA level? He didn't receive a vote last year, either.
Nice shout-out from the flying pig (Sir Charles' nickname in China).Barkley calling NBA coaches petty for not voting for Stevens. lol
Yeah, you're right, let me rephrase. Most of the case for his candidacy seemed to revolve around "reshaping the offense," which seemed to me code for "get DeMar to shoot 3s."Where do you get this information? The Raptors have been in the Top-10 in 3-point FGA several times under Casey despite their best offensive player not having this shot in his arsenal until this season. They had years when the entire 2nd unit was one big 3-point heave with Ross, Patterson, and Vasquez.
If by several times, you mean two, and by in the the top 10, you mean barely cracking the top 10, then yes, you have a point.Where do you get this information? The Raptors have been in the Top-10 in 3-point FGA several times under Casey despite their best offensive player not having this shot in his arsenal until this season. They had years when the entire 2nd unit was one big 3-point heave with Ross, Patterson, and Vasquez.
Sweet, I was too lazy to look that up. I hereby rescind my apology, and return to the regularly scheduled Casey-mocking.If by several times, you mean two, and by in the the top 10, you mean barely cracking the top 10, then yes, you have a point.
Before this year, during the Casey era, the Raptors ranked 22nd, 19th, 9th, 10th, 12th, and 21st in 3PA.