2017-18 NBA Regular Season Game/Observation Thread
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Doc puts his son with the 61% FT in the game, son clangs two FTs with 17 seconds left, Clippers lose.
Edit: in fairness it looks like Rivers had two late steals. But I still don't get how a 6'-4" guard who's a poor shooter, poor FT shooter, poor passer and horrific rebounder (1.8 boards per 36, wtf?) has a job in the NBA, let alone one as a ~30 mpg rotation player for a pretty good team.
Edit: in fairness it looks like Rivers had two late steals. But I still don't get how a 6'-4" guard who's a poor shooter, poor FT shooter, poor passer and horrific rebounder (1.8 boards per 36, wtf?) has a job in the NBA, let alone one as a ~30 mpg rotation player for a pretty good team.
Nah, he's a free agent after this year. Iguodala + Livingston + Swaggy P works in the trade machine, though... ;-P
Wizards blow a 16 point lead against the Raptors on the road. Lots of blown leads today.
Harden is 10/12, 5/5, 5/5 with 30 points, 7 assists and 3 turnovers at half time. One of his misses was at the buzzer in the 2nd quarter. Ridiculous.
Harden is 10/12, 5/5, 5/5 with 30 points, 7 assists and 3 turnovers at half time. One of his misses was at the buzzer in the 2nd quarter. Ridiculous.
50 points through 3 quarters for Beardo — on 19 fg attempts!!!
13 assists for good measure.
Not really fair to compare the three-ball era to previous ones, but on a pure efficiency + volume basis, I think you can probably make a case that LeBron, Durant, Curry and Harden are the four best offensive players ever.
13 assists for good measure.
Not really fair to compare the three-ball era to previous ones, but on a pure efficiency + volume basis, I think you can probably make a case that LeBron, Durant, Curry and Harden are the four best offensive players ever.
The online boxscore I was looking at said he had only played 20 minutes so far. That HAS to be wrong.
Oddly enough, the Rockets have only scored 2 points in the 4th quarter with a little more than 6 minutes to play. They had 115 going into the 4th. Looks like Harden is done for the night too.
'Zards end up winning by 19 sans John Wall. Although Lowey was apparently ejected midway through 2Q.
Porzingis has scored 15 straight for the Knicks. He has yet another 30 point game, at 31 with 8 minutes and change in the 4th. They are making a run vs the Pacers, cutting a 19 point lead to 8.
Sabonis and Turner give the Pacers a lot of interesting options.
edit: 3 point game now. 15-2 run by the Knicks.
Tied now.
Sabonis and Turner give the Pacers a lot of interesting options.
edit: 3 point game now. 15-2 run by the Knicks.
Tied now.
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Looks like the Knicks are going to pull off the comeback. Porzingis with 40 points, 8 rebounds and 6 blocks on 15/24, 2/2, 8/9 shooting. Ntilikina with 10 points, 7 assists, 2 rebounds and 3 steals on 4/7, 2/3, 0/2 shooting. He looked really good tonight.
Jordan went 24/29 in this game https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198811160PHI.html. No 3s though.
Gary Payton holds the record for most FGs without a miss in a game at 14, here.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199501040CLE.html
Gary Payton holds the record for most FGs without a miss in a game at 14, here.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199501040CLE.html
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This team is at home every time I turn around.
KCP's knee gave out under him. Walking to the locker room under his own power.
KCP's knee gave out under him. Walking to the locker room under his own power.
98-94 game, Westbrook has a chance to get it within 1 and misses all 3 FTs with 20 seconds left. 2/7 for the game. He's shooting 58.8% at the line for the year. 30/51.
Totally open to other nominees. I specified "on a volume + efficiency basis" which I think is a pretty simple and fair proxy for "best" in terms of scoring. And I added the important caveat about three-pointers — the fact that 3 is 150% more than 2 is a big deal.
That doesn't factor in passing / floor generalship, though it's not like LeBron, KD, Curry and Harden are slouches in that department.
Just going by who scored the most and used the fewest shots/possessions to do it, none of the superstars of yesteryear quite measure up to the ones of today. The last few seasons, James, Harden, Curry and Durant have been routinely putting up 26-30 points per 36 minutes on well over .600 true shooting — pushing up to the .640-.680 range in the case of James, Curry and Durant. None of the great scorers of yesteryear, from Wilt to Gervin to Jordan to Shaq to Kobe, sniffed that combo of efficiency and volume (age 23-26 Barkley may come the closest, but at slightly lower volume, and by his late 20s he had regressed).
Of course, if we're talking "relative to their eras," that's more subjective and complex. Off the top of my head: Jordan, Bird and Magic at their peaks may well have been more dominant relative to their eras than the four I mentioned. Possibly more creative, exciting, and/or aesthetically pleasing as well. But I still think you could make a case for those four.
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3 point game, Memphis ball. 42.5 seconds left.
Also, the Lakers have played 7 home games and only 3 road games.
After shooting 84.5% last year and comfortably over 80% throughout his career. The anti-Drummond? FT shooting is such a weird and psychological thing. I'm actually surprised it's as consistent year-to-year in most players as it is.
Dallas, Atlanta, Sacramento, and Chicago are all lost causes. None of those teams will win more games than LA. Clearly, Cleveland, OKC, and Milwaukee will move ahead of them. Really comes down to Brooklyn and Phoenix.
It's a long season, wouldn't surprise me if this ended up being the best stretch of the season for the Lakers.
Lonzo is trash by the way. I know he can pass the ball but his handle and shooting both suck and very nearly handed the game to Memphis (strange roster) singlehandedly. He has a touch time with any defensive resistance.
Lonzo is trash by the way. I know he can pass the ball but his handle and shooting both suck and very nearly handed the game to Memphis (strange roster) singlehandedly. He has a touch time with any defensive resistance.
If they trade for Bledsoe, I like the Pistons to be a top 4 team in the East. Have a lot of the elements but you're right about Reggie Jackson, of course.
No worries. That Sacramento pick next year looks better and better with each passing game.
You know this league is in a good place when even this Nets/Suns game is legitimately entertaining.
Edit: Much needed win for the Nets. Jackson, Criss and Bender finished with a combined 8 points; those three are all still very young and have plenty of room to develop, but that McDonough extension is looking a little premature right now.
Edit: Much needed win for the Nets. Jackson, Criss and Bender finished with a combined 8 points; those three are all still very young and have plenty of room to develop, but that McDonough extension is looking a little premature right now.
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Bucks get Bledsoe and Woj continues to Bomb; not afraid of Skipper.
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Suns finalizing deal to send Eric Bledsoe to Bucks, league sources tell @ZachLowe_NBA and me.
Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account @wojespn
Suns finalizing deal to send Eric Bledsoe to Bucks, league sources tell @ZachLowe_NBA and me.
Phoenix finalizing deal to send Eric Bledsoe to Milwaukee for Greg Monroe and a first-round draft pick, sources tell @ZachLowe_NBA and me.
That seems like a steal... can't believe they didn't have to include Brogdon or Maker. If they get parker back, that team looks really good... Brogdon/Bledsoe/Middleton/Giannis/Maker is solid.
edit: and that 5 doesn't even include Parker! will be interesting to see what sort of rotations they roll out.
If Parker comes back fully healthy, they could be the best team in the East.
It seems about fair value to me. I think Bledsoe is pretty run of the mill, injury prone and had a limited number of teams he could go to.
It seems about fair value to me. I think Bledsoe is pretty run of the mill, injury prone and had a limited number of teams he could go to.
Yup, the Suns were never in a million years getting Brogdon or Maker for Bledsoe. Mid to late first-rounder sounds about right to me.
Wow, great deal for the Bucks. I'm not a Monroe fan at all — from PHO's perspective I'm assuming he's just salary ballast and an expiring contract.
Path to the Finals for Cleveland just got that much tougher. I would not put even money on them against the field right now.
Path to the Finals for Cleveland just got that much tougher. I would not put even money on them against the field right now.
Never try to outsmug Danny Ainge. Just don't do it. McDonough should have known this, though he has probably been on tilt since the IT theft which was part of the sequence of moves that also saw him move the Lakers pick we now own for Brandon Knight.
He got decent value for Dragic, at least.
What do you mean by this? Does ESPN not want him to do what they bought him for?
Meh... the Bucks have a good, young core. If they don't get a pick in that 11-16 range this year or next, odds are it's in the 20's in 2020. Hard to see them collapsing to a bottom-7 team by then and having that convey (and be valuable) in 2021.
I thought they gave special dispensation to Woj and Schefter
edit: all i could find was this article referencing Woj and Schefter that basically says this policy has essentially been in place since 2011 and the enforcement won't change