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bostonbeerbelly

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That was a huge putt to make. Tiger winning would be a real fitting way to end the regular 2015 season. In one of the best years of golf I can remember, having him win one of the few tournaments I wouldn't watch at all would be great.
 

Deathofthebambino

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WayBackVazquez said:
he's still obviously in it, but he's going to lose ground to most of the field today.
 
He's really not though.  Only 12 guys in the field are better than his -3 today.  And other than Blixt, Gore and Brown, he still is ahead of all of the other guys by multiple shots.  He did what he needed to do today.  I still think if he goes out and shoots 66 in the final group tomorrow, he probably wins going away.  If some other guy in the top 5 shoots a 62 and goes by him, it is what it is, but he certainly didn't play badly today.  If his putter got hot today, he could have really gone low, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him do that tomorrow the way he's striking the ball and hitting fairways. 
 

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Wow, that's a horrible, horrible bogey to take there.  From 140 yards out, flat green, easy pin position.  He should make birdie there more than he should make bogey. 
 

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Deathofthebambino said:
He's really not though.  Only 12 guys in the field are better than his -3 today.  And other than Blixt, Gore and Brown, he still is ahead of all of the other guys by multiple shots.  He did what he needed to do today.  I still think if he goes out and shoots 66 in the final group tomorrow, he probably wins going away.  If some other guy in the top 5 shoots a 62 and goes by him, it is what it is, but he certainly didn't play badly today.  If his putter got hot today, he could have really gone low, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him do that tomorrow the way he's striking the ball and hitting fairways.
Like I said, he's still obviously in it. But he shot worse than 30 players today, including the large majority of those in striking distance. He didn't lose the tournament today, but he didn't help himself, either.
 
I'll stick my neck out and predict Tiger fades today, quite possibly out of the top 10. He hasn't been properly in contention on Sunday for ages, and the way this normally works for a good golfer rounding back into form is that first you struggle on Thursday and Friday, then you do well through 36 but struggle on Saturday, and then you do well through 54 but struggle on Sunday. Tiger is no longer a superhuman force who can bend space, time and the field to his will; he felt the nerves on Saturday at the Greenbrier, and he's really going to feel it all day today. Plus, the winner is going to have to go low today - if this were a tougher course and the leaders were at -7 and Tiger was at -5 or something like that, I'd fancy him more to shoot a steady 68 to compete than I fancy him to go low with the 64 or better he's going to need to win. (There are 19 players within three shots of Tiger in either direction, so you have to go low or go out, and I think it's too soon in this mini-revival for Tiger to really go low on Sunday when it matters.)
 
What Tiger really needs is reps - and the best place to get them would be in the Fall Finish or whatever they call they're calling the wraparound season at the end of the year these days. I wonder if he'll swallow his pride and actually play in three or four of these tournaments while the NFL is on; among other things, some solid work there might give him the playoff points he needs this time next year to not have to win the Wyndham to qualify. 
 

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He's playing the Frys but I don't think he'll add more than that in the Fall. Maybe he makes an appearance on the Euro Tour when they go to the Middle East in February, he's done that when healthy. The "he needs more reps" thing may be true, but we also have no idea. He just as easily could wear himself out and/or re-injure the back. We have no idea how he'd handle it, he's basically played the same schedule for the past 15 years. Adding events may not necessarily help.

Anyways, I'm looking forward to today's round. We've seen flashes of contention on Thursday-Friday this year, but this is the first time in a loooooonnng time that he's had a legitimate shot on a Sunday. I think his target needs to be under 65.
 

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Most of the greens and courses Donald Ross built have been changed and renovated, and don't really resemble what he originally designed 80-100 years ago (including my club), but for those that do, it's really easy to see just how maniacal the greens can be.  It's the one thing all of his courses have in common.  The greens are where the courses defend themselves.  I'd love to know how fast these are running on the meter this week.  They have to be some of the fastest greens we've seen all year.
 
Ross was known for his "upside down saucer" greens, and it seems like there are a number of them on this course.  So unless the pin is in the middle of the green, you have to aim for the short side of the flag to give yourself an uphill putt, because it's downhill from everywhere else.  Pretty cool to watch.
 

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I'm not sure who to root for now. DLIII would be a pretty wild story, but Gore seems like a pretty good dude and has way more on the line. 
 

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Eh, he's getting closer. It generally takes him a year or so to figure things out and start winning after a swing change. If he stays healthy, I think he'll have a good 2016.
 

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Tiger fought back to post 70, but not even in the top ten.  Looks like DL3 is gonna win unless Gore hits about a 50 footer on 18
 

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cshea said:
DLIII wins. His first win since 2008, 3rd oldest tour winner ever. Did not see that one coming.
It was awesome. He seems like a guy who prefers no part of the Champions Tour if he can stay with the young guys so he has to be thrilled. I know he has a lifetime exemption but it must feel good to prove he deserves to still be there.
 

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Apologies if I should put this somewhere else.  I'm taking my dad to the the first round of the Deutsche Bank Championship next Friday.  We have general grounds passes.  Does anyone who has attended before have any advice?  Should we follow a group throughout the day, or set up camp at one of the holes and watch the groups flow through?  If so, any particular holes/areas that we should stake out?
 
It's my first golf tournament, so any and all advice is appreciated.  Thank you.
 

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I would say be flexible. When i've gone we've done a few things. Sat behind / near the green on a couple of the par 3's (not just #16). Also set up in the stands near the 18th green (you can sit there if you have grounds passes) for while.
I've never followed a group for more than 2 holes. I would suggest that, if you have a player or group that you really want to see up close, jump ahead of them by a couple of holes and get yourself right at the ropes on the tee box when that group gets to you.
We did that a few years ago with Tiger. I don't remember what hole # it was (but it was the hole that players get carted to). Anyhow, we got to the tee a few groups before he came through . After he teed off, we went across to the green of the next hole and saw his approach and putts on that one.
 
If your dad has limited mobility, or either of you just don't want to walk much, I would suggest camping out in the area around 16, 17, and 18. There's food there and a few places to sit and watch
 

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I've been a walking scorer for the past 7 years but had to forego this year for family reasons, but I would echo steve's sentiment about 16, 17, and 18.  It's actually a good spot to camp out in the area on the far right side of the 15th green.  You can watch the players approach and finish the 15th and then turn to watch from a vantage point slightly above the tee box as players move onto the par-3 16th. It also allows you to walk a short distance to see the tee shots off the 14th.
 
You can get a similar two-hole perspective at the 2nd and 3rd holes.  There's a lot of distance to walk between the 3rd through 9th holes...hell, even through the 11th.  12-18 are in a much more compact area.
 

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I'm going on Friday as well, planning to go either way early or way late. What would be better?
 
Also curious about volunteering for those that have done it. Do you have to do all four days, or just one or two?