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I always have to look it up to remember if Paxton Crawford was the guy who fell out of bed in AAA and cut his back on a drinking glass that had been left on the floor (he was), or the guy who burned his hand putting out a fire in his hotel room started by a candle (the late Vaughn Eshelman).
Ha, yea, Paxton totally fell out of bed and wasn't stabbed by his ex.
 

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Those early ‘90s years had a lot of retreads. Viola, Danny Darwin, Billy Hatcher (who i mentioned earlier), Andre Dawson, Rob Deer, Otis Nixon, Damon Berryhill.

The funny part is that ugly ‘93 team actually went on a huge run mid-summer and many of us caught Red Sox fever. At one point they won 10 in a row and were tied with Toronto for the AL East lead in July.

Of course it didn’t last. The only part of that season I remember in September was the horrible MFY game where they won but the last out didn’t count because a fan ran on the field…then when they resumed, Don Mattingly hit a walk-off 2-run single.
The end of that run in late July coincided with Reggie Lewis’s sudden death. The Sox had the city buzzing with optimism and then everything was awful all at once.
 

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I remember really liking Ernest Riles at one point that summer.
I went to a game at Fenway during that 10 game winning streak (I think it was their 7th or 8th in a row they won). Even before the game, the buzz was real. The Sox had trimmed Toronto’s lead to just a game by that point and everyone seemed to be playing well at the same time. Some were starting to believe this group of misfits and veteran retreads could actually do it.

It was probably one of the most electric games of that streak…John Dopson actually pitched a pretty solid game and the game was tied at 2 after 7, but then Greg Harris gave up 3 runs in the top 8th and some of the less faithful started exiting out, but the overwhelming majority of us stayed. We were rewarded when Mike Greenwell hit a tying 3-run bomb off Eckersley to tie it at 5 in the bottom half of the 8th.

Somehow Greg Harris kept the A’s scoreless for the 9th and 10th and then in the bottom of the 10th, Bob Zupcic who had entered the game previously as a pinch runner for Andre Dawson, hit a walk-off wall-ball to send everyone home in a frenzy for a 6-5 victory. I was only about 12 years old but I remember kenmore square absolutely hopping after the game…Red Sox Fever was real even if only for a couple brief weeks that summer.

I always remembered that period as being one of the few bright spots during the 1991-1994 dark ages.
 

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I went to a game at Fenway during that 10 game winning streak (I think it was their 7th or 8th in a row they won). Even before the game, the buzz was real. The Sox had trimmed Toronto’s lead to just a couple games by that point and everyone seemed to be playing well at the same time. Some were starting to believe this group of misfits and veteran retreads could actually do it.

It was probably one of the most electric games of that streak…John Dopson actually pitched a pretty solid game and the game was tied at 2 after 7, but then Greg Harris gave up 3 runs in the top 8th and some of the less faithful started exiting out, but the overwhelming majority of us stayed. We were rewarded when Mike Greenwell hit a tying 3-run bomb off Eckersley to tie it at 5 in the bottom half of the 8th.

Somehow Greg Harris kept the A’s scoreless for the 9th and 10th and then in the bottom of the 10th, Bob Zupcic who had entered the game previously as a pinch runner for Andre Dawson, hit a walk-off wall-ball to send everyone home in a frenzy for a 6-5 victory. I was only about 12 years old but I remember kenmore square absolutely hopping after the game…Red Sox Fever was real even if only for a couple brief weeks that summer.

I always remembered that period as being one of the few bright spots during the 1991-1994 dark ages.
The streak ended abruptly too - they had the 11th win sewn up and then they got walked off by Joey Meyer, Rob Deer or some other .200 hitter for the Brewers.
 

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The streak ended abruptly too - they had the 11th win sewn up and then they got walked off by Joey Meyer, Rob Deer or some other .200 hitter for the Brewers.
I remember that vividly. I think Jeff Russell was the closer and he had been really good too up to that point. It ruined a great start by Clemens.

I actually thought it was Tom Brunansky who walked us off though.
 

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Sox would then re-acquire Brunansky in ‘94, in exchange for Dave Valle. Bruno hit 237/319/475 in the strike shortened year, and never appeared in the bigs again, done at 33.
 
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I actually thought it was Tom Brunansky who walked us off though.
I guess I should start a “forgot he was a Brewer” thread (was right about the .200 hitter part, though)! Russell really was a good closer for them that year too.
 

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I guess I should start a “forgot he was a Brewer” thread (was right about the .200 hitter part, though)! Russell really was a good closer for them that year too.
.200 was being generous. He was batting .179 after that game according to the link that red hawks fan posted….lol.

That was fitting though for the dark years. Our one fleeting moment of hope gets dashed by an awful Brewers team in consecutive 1-run losses…the first being walked off by a .179 hitter.

I went down the rabbit hole with that link and am stunned at how well that ‘93 Red Sox team played between June 20th and July 30th. During that stretch they went 28-7 and of those 7 losses, 6 of them were by 1 run and the other was by 2 runs. They tailspinned quite badly late in the year but they was a very fun 6 weeks.
 

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.200 was being generous. He was batting .179 after that game according to the link that red hawks fan posted….lol.

That was fitting though for the dark years. Our one fleeting moment of hope gets dashed by an awful Brewers team in consecutive 1-run losses…the first being walked off by a .179 hitter.

I went down the rabbit hole with that link and am stunned at how well that ‘93 Red Sox team played between June 20th and July 30th. During that stretch they went 28-7 and of those 7 losses, 6 of them were by 1 run and the other was by 2 runs. They tailspinned quite badly late in the year but they was a very fun 6 weeks.
A bit longer than that. They were right in it on Aug 10: https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/?date=1993-08-10

If you click on the "after this date" button, it tells the tale: 17-33, the worst performance during that stretch in the league. Clemens came up particularly small: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=clemero02&t=p&year=1993#294-302-sum:pitching_gamelogs
 

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I went down the rabbit hole with that link and am stunned at how well that ‘93 Red Sox team played between June 20th and July 30th. During that stretch they went 28-7 and of those 7 losses, 6 of them were by 1 run and the other was by 2 runs. They tailspinned quite badly late in the year but they was a very fun 6 weeks.
The beginning of that stretch was right when I got back on board after basically losing interest in baseball when I was 11 and Yaz retired. I'd just turned 21, a friend had an extra bleacher ticket, and I figured that it was a nice night and I could just hang out and drink. Walking to the park from Kenmore, everybody was buzzing about this hot young pitcher making his debut - Sele, on June 23rd - it was a vibe and I got totally caught up in it. As soon as I walked through the tunnel and saw all that green for the first time in years, I was instantly all in, and then as a bonus Sele lived up to the hype. It all seemed to peak when we swept a 4 game series against Oakland at home about a month later and then the wheels started to fall off, culminating with the Stanley/Yankees interference game. My cousin and I caught a game against the Royals over Labor Day weekend, I think. It was George Brett's final series at Fenway and at one point, the scoreboard flashed that Jim Abbott of the New York Yankees had thrown a no-hitter and the entire park erupted. I looked at my cousin and was just, like, "Wait - we don't hate the Yankees anymore?" "No, he's only got one hand." "Oh."

I loved those pre-Nomar early-mid '90s teams, though, no matter how shitty they were - I was too green to look at them objectively. To this day, any time folk singer Cindy Lee Berryhill pops up, I default to "Damon's cousin" - all that stuff's just ingrained. Or when Scott Cooper hit for the cycle and the Sox scored 22 runs in KC on my 22nd birthday - that was the best part of a rainy Tuesday night when everyone was still bummed out about Cobain offing himsef the previous week.

But to get back to the point of the thread - Willie McGee , '95.
 
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The beginning of that stretch was right when I got back on board after basically losing interest in baseball when I was 11 and Yaz retired. I'd just turned 21, a friend had an extra bleacher ticket, and I figured that it was a nice night and I could just hang out and drink. Walking to the park from Kenmore, everybody was buzzing about this hot young pitcher making his debut - Sele, on June 23rd - it was a vibe and I got totally caught up in it. As soon as I walked through the tunnel and saw all that green for the first time in years, I was instantly all in, and then as a bonus Sele lived up to the hype. It all seemed to peak when we swept a 4 game series against Oakland at home about a month later and then the wheels started to fall off, culminating with the Stanley/Yankees interference game. My cousin and I caught a game against the Royals over Labor Day weekend, I think. It was George Brett's final series at Fenway and at one point, the scoreboard flashed that Jim Abbott of the New York Yankees had thrown a no-hitter and the entire park erupted. I looked at my cousin and was just, like, "Wait - we don't hate the Yankees anymore?" "No, he's only got one hand." "Oh."

I loved those pre-Nomar early-mid '90s teams, though, no matter how shitty they were - I was too green to look at them objectively. To this day, any time folk singer Cindy Lee Berryhill's pops up, I default to "Damon's cousin" - all that stuff's just ingrained. Or when Scott Cooper hit for the cycle and the Sox scored 22 runs in KC on my 22nd birthday - that was the best part of a rainy Tuesday night when everyone was still bummed out about Cobain offing himsef the previous week.

But to get back to the point of the thread - Willie McGee , '95.
I really loved this post.
 

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Thanks for sending me down the Wasdin rabbit hole!

19-16 with a 4.66 ERA with the Red Sox in 4 seasons feels significantly better than I remember.

Acquired from the A’s for Jose Canseco.

Traded then for the Rolando Arraujo pickup.

Also, this on BR made me giggle:

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The beginning of that stretch was right when I got back on board after basically losing interest in baseball when I was 11 and Yaz retired. I'd just turned 21, a friend had an extra bleacher ticket, and I figured that it was a nice night and I could just hang out and drink. Walking to the park from Kenmore, everybody was buzzing about this hot young pitcher making his debut - Sele, on June 23rd - it was a vibe and I got totally caught up in it. As soon as I walked through the tunnel and saw all that green for the first time in years, I was instantly all in, and then as a bonus Sele lived up to the hype. It all seemed to peak when we swept a 4 game series against Oakland at home about a month later and then the wheels started to fall off, culminating with the Stanley/Yankees interference game. My cousin and I caught a game against the Royals over Labor Day weekend, I think. It was George Brett's final series at Fenway and at one point, the scoreboard flashed that Jim Abbott of the New York Yankees had thrown a no-hitter and the entire park erupted. I looked at my cousin and was just, like, "Wait - we don't hate the Yankees anymore?" "No, he's only got one hand." "Oh."

I loved those pre-Nomar early-mid '90s teams, though, no matter how shitty they were - I was too green to look at them objectively. To this day, any time folk singer Cindy Lee Berryhill pops up, I default to "Damon's cousin" - all that stuff's just ingrained. Or when Scott Cooper hit for the cycle and the Sox scored 22 runs in KC on my 22nd birthday - that was the best part of a rainy Tuesday night when everyone was still bummed out about Cobain offing himsef the previous week.

But to get back to the point of the thread - Willie McGee , '95.
The best part about this account for me was we went to the same game against the Royals Labor Day weekend. I went to two games in 1993…the one against the A’s during the July sweep I mentioned above and the Royals game where Abbott threw the no-hitter shown on the scoreboard. George Brett also got his career 5000th total base that game which was pretty cool.

The Red Sox were already in tailspin mode by that point and iirc they took an early 2-0 lead on an Andre Dawson 2-run HR in the 1st inning but then pissed it away later in the game.

I do recall the 1994 team came out scorching hot and gave some brief hope that they could return to some of the magic of mid-summer 1993, but then they went on an absolute brutal losing streak and that was the end of that.
 

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I have a couple memories of Crawford… at least I think it’s Shag Crawford.

One is a big boy Sox reliever coming out of the bullpen during a dust up and chasing an opposing player in to left field. I think the batter charged the mound and tried to spike the pitcher.

The other is a pick off play at 2b. Pitcher is on the rubber and backhands the ball to the covering infielder. Crazy timing play and I cannot remember if they got the out.

Anybody recall?

Apologies if this isn’t main board material.
I think that was George Bell trying to karate-kick Bruce Kison.
 

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The beginning of that stretch was right when I got back on board after basically losing interest in baseball when I was 11 and Yaz retired. I'd just turned 21, a friend had an extra bleacher ticket, and I figured that it was a nice night and I could just hang out and drink. Walking to the park from Kenmore, everybody was buzzing about this hot young pitcher making his debut - Sele, on June 23rd - it was a vibe and I got totally caught up in it. As soon as I walked through the tunnel and saw all that green for the first time in years, I was instantly all in, and then as a bonus Sele lived up to the hype. It all seemed to peak when we swept a 4 game series against Oakland at home about a month later and then the wheels started to fall off, culminating with the Stanley/Yankees interference game. My cousin and I caught a game against the Royals over Labor Day weekend, I think. It was George Brett's final series at Fenway and at one point, the scoreboard flashed that Jim Abbott of the New York Yankees had thrown a no-hitter and the entire park erupted. I looked at my cousin and was just, like, "Wait - we don't hate the Yankees anymore?" "No, he's only got one hand." "Oh."

I loved those pre-Nomar early-mid '90s teams, though, no matter how shitty they were - I was too green to look at them objectively. To this day, any time folk singer Cindy Lee Berryhill pops up, I default to "Damon's cousin" - all that stuff's just ingrained. Or when Scott Cooper hit for the cycle and the Sox scored 22 runs in KC on my 22nd birthday - that was the best part of a rainy Tuesday night when everyone was still bummed out about Cobain offing himsef the previous week.

But to get back to the point of the thread - Willie McGee , '95.
Basically that entire 95 team, which I loved.

Luis Alicea
Matt Stairs
Chris Donnels
Terry Shumpert
Wes Chamberlain
Juan Bell
Chris James
Tuffy Rhodes
Zane Smith
Alejandro Pena
Derek Lilliquist
 

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Gene Michael is arguably the most obscure Red Sox player in recent generations. He was on the roster throughout April 1976 and never appeared in a game. I imagine most everyone who'd been aware of his presence on the team has long forgotten, as his stat pages don't show 'Boston."
 

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Basically that entire 95 team, which I loved.

Luis Alicea
Matt Stairs
Chris Donnels
Terry Shumpert
Wes Chamberlain
Juan Bell
Chris James
Tuffy Rhodes
Zane Smith
Alejandro Pena
Derek Lilliquist
Don't forget Dwayne Hosey who briefly tricked us into being the second coming of Rickey Henderson.



It's actually amazing when you look at the '95 Red Sox and how much went right (at least until the playoffs, lol).

1. They actually got nearly a full season out of Tim Naehring that year....the man could rake when he was healthy.
2. Got nearly a full season of healthy Jose Canseco too (who also absolutely was raking that year)
3. Got lucky with the breakout season of Troy O'Leary
4. Got lucky with the Tim Wakefield career resurgence
5. Managed to squeeze out the last good season of Erik Hanson's career which along with Wakefield, was a huge boost to an otherwise ugly rotation behind Roger Clemens. Esp after one of the few bad breaks they got with Aaron Sele losing most of the season to injury.
6. Related to above, they got an awesome season out of Mike Maddux who was often cleaning up after a shitty Zane Smith or Vaugh Eshelman start. His performance probably allowed them to win a number of games by those starters they wouldn't have otherwise won. Ditto Rheal Cormier. I haven't looked it up but I wouldn't b e surprised if both of them pitched 100+ innings out of the 'pen that year even in a shortened season.
 

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Someone way upthread mentioned Rod Beck, which led to an ancillary discussion of his disastrous Game 4 in the 1999 ALCS. I was at that game. Sandwiched between the awful phantom tag on Offerman by Knoublauch and the blown call where Nomar beat the throw to first in the bottom of the ninth but was called out, prompting Jimmy’s nutty and SiaS saying Jimy should lose any votes for Manager of the Year was Rod Beck giving up a bomb of a grand slam to Ricky Ledee to put the game out of reach.

View: https://youtu.be/znZ7Zkh0a9A
 

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The Paxton you're thinking of is Mike Paxton
Mike Paxton's baseball card was more memorable than Mike Paxton. I still have this card. Among the many useless facts I somehow remember was that he struck out 4 batters in an inning after being traded to the Indians. As a 10 year old I thought that was incredible. His real claim to fame was that he was part of the trade that brought Eck to Boston.
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Someone way upthread mentioned Rod Beck, which led to an ancillary discussion of his disastrous Game 4 in the 1999 ALCS. I was at that game. Sandwiched between the awful phantom tag on Offerman by Knoublauch and the blown call where Nomar beat the throw to first in the bottom of the ninth but was called out, prompting Jimmy’s nutty and SiaS saying Jimy should lose any votes for Manager of the Year was Rod Beck giving up a bomb of a grand slam to Ricky Ledee to put the game out of reach.

View: https://youtu.be/znZ7Zkh0a9A
And similarly I went down the rabbit hole on game 1, as I had forgotten the play where Knoblauch dropped a throw from 3rd but they called the runner out anyway, ruling it a transfer. And as mentioned upthread, the next batter GIDP and then the MFY walked it off in the bottom of the inning off Beck.

Similar to the dynasty Pats, while those MFY teams were excellent, they were the beneficiaries of a ton of good luck during that stretch.
 

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The best part about this account for me was we went to the same game against the Royals Labor Day weekend. I went to two games in 1993…the one against the A’s during the July sweep I mentioned above and the Royals game where Abbott threw the no-hitter shown on the scoreboard. George Brett also got his career 5000th total base that game which was pretty cool.

The Red Sox were already in tailspin mode by that point and iirc they took an early 2-0 lead on an Andre Dawson 2-run HR in the 1st inning but then pissed it away later in the game.

I do recall the 1994 team came out scorching hot and gave some brief hope that they could return to some of the magic of mid-summer 1993, but then they went on an absolute brutal losing streak and that was the end of that.
I was at Fenway when Clemens threw his 2000th strike out that year. Was a great time. Pre Nomar, but we had Roger and Mo.
 

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I was at Fenway when Clemens threw his 2000th strike out that year. Was a great time. Pre Nomar, but we had Roger and Mo.
I was always a little bitter that the Red Sox didn't make more noise in 1998 which was the only year they had the Nomar/Mo/Pedro trio. They probably weren't beating the Yankees in the ALCS anyway, but it would have been nice to see them try. IIRC, they outscored Cleveland in the ALDS despite losing the series in 4 games. I recall the two games at Fenway being excruciating 1 run losses.
 

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I was always a little bitter that the Red Sox didn't make more noise in 1998 which was the only year they had the Nomar/Mo/Pedro trio. They probably weren't beating the Yankees in the ALCS anyway, but it would have been nice to see them try. IIRC, they outscored Cleveland in the ALDS despite losing the series in 4 games. I recall the two games at Fenway being excruciating 1 run losses.
I was at game 4, Jimy famously started Pete Schourek and not Pedro. He pitched well, then Jimy brought in Gordon for a six out save and that went poorly. Wendell also had a particularly awful send that resulted in Justice gunning out Valentin (?) by a country mile.
 

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I was at game 4, Jimy famously started Pete Schourek and not Pedro. He pitched well, then Jimy brought in Gordon for a six out save and that went poorly. Wendell also had a particularly awful send that resulted in Justice gunning out Valentin (?) by a country mile.
That's right....I remember that game well now. I think it was 1-0 going to the 8th.

While the Tom Gordon blown save was horrific in game 4, letting our prolific lineup get owned by a bad Charles Nagy went a bit under-the-radar in game 3. Saberhagen actually pitched well in game 3 IIRC but we couldn't do shit against Nagy who was pretty much cooked by 1998 despite hanging on another few years.
 

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I was at game 4, Jimy famously started Pete Schourek and not Pedro. He pitched well, then Jimy brought in Gordon for a six out save and that went poorly. Wendell also had a particularly awful send that resulted in Justice gunning out Valentin (?) by a country mile.
When, by that point, Derek Lowe was the best arm in the bullpen. No shade on Flash, who was great that year.
 

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When, by that point, Derek Lowe was the best arm in the bullpen. No shade on Flash, who was great that year.
Lowe had already gone 1 2/3 that game, but only 19 pitches. He hadn't pitched in game 3 either, so he was fresh. With Pedro on the hill in game 5, I'd have gone with Lowe for another inning (or at least another 1-2 outs).

Gordon was over amped. We saw that movie again in 2004, thankfully from the other side.
 

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That's right....I remember that game well now. I think it was 1-0 going to the 8th.

While the Tom Gordon blown save was horrific in game 4, letting our prolific lineup get owned by a bad Charles Nagy went a bit under-the-radar in game 3. Saberhagen actually pitched well in game 3 IIRC but we couldn't do shit against Nagy who was pretty much cooked by 1998 despite hanging on another few years.
And Eck gave up a bomb to Manny in the top of the 9th that would be the ultimate difference in the game. (Eck could be another 'forgot he was on the team', if you just counted 1998 and not everything pre-Buckner trade).
 

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It's actually amazing when you look at the '95 Red Sox and how much went right (at least until the playoffs, lol).
The Indians were a tough team. That said, the Sox clinched with a week or so remaining and set up the rotation for Clemens to pitch just poorly enough to exhaust the bullpen in an extra-innings loss.
 

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I was at game 4, Jimy famously started Pete Schourek and not Pedro. He pitched well, then Jimy brought in Gordon for a six out save and that went poorly. Wendell also had a particularly awful send that resulted in Justice gunning out Valentin (?) by a country mile.
The decision to start Schourek was the right one and I will defend it unto my death.
 

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Sox would then re-acquire Brunansky in ‘94, in exchange for Dave Valle. Bruno hit 237/319/475 in the strike shortened year, and never appeared in the bigs again, done at 33.
This should be part of a (much shorter, more dismal) thread titled "Your top "forgot he was TWICE a Red Sox". At the top of the list: Bill Buckner, who was brought back satanically for 22 games in 1990.
Thanks for sending me down the Wasdin rabbit hole!

19-16 with a 4.66 ERA with the Red Sox in 4 seasons feels significantly better than I remember.

Acquired from the A’s for Jose Canseco.

Traded then for the Rolando Arraujo pickup.

Also, this on BR made me giggle:

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I can remember listening to the radio broadcast of an A's-Sox game in 1996 right after I moved to the Bay Area, where Clemens was outpitched by an underachieving but promising young A's pitcher named John Wasdin, and wondering why we couldn't develop young pitchers like that. Ah, the many layers of ironic disappointment that followed from that moment.

This thread, by the way, is what I love about baseball. Even the scrubbiest and random Sox players— your Javy Lopezes and Brandon Phillipses— get a moment where they get to stand at the plate equal to any other player, with all cameras and focus trained on them. It's a different thing than, say, basketball, where I remember that Gary Payton played for the Celtics but I can't remember one single actual thing that he did.
 

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This should be part of a (much shorter, more dismal) thread titled "Your top "forgot he was TWICE a Red Sox". At the top of the list: Bill Buckner, who was brought back satanically for 22 games in 1990.
C- Mirabelli
1B - Buckner
2B - Merloni
3B - Shaw
SS - Iglesias
RF - Brunansky
CF - Burks
LF - Carbo
DH - Scott