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canyoubelieveit

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That was against Baltimore, right?

I totally forgot Steve Pearce existed between mid '19 and this thread, to be honest.
Steve Pearce has a weird forgotten place in my memory that's in the spirit of this thread, but in a different way. Of course I remember him during the stretch run and as WS MVP for the Sox, but one of the trivia facts about him is that he played for every team in the division. I watch a lot of Sox games, but somehow I have NO memory of him playing for any other team. When they first got him I didn't know who he was. It doesn't make any sense to me. I know he wasn't a superstar, but he wasn't a nobody either. Shouldn't I have had some memory of some at bats for the Yankees, Blue Jays, Orioles, or Rays? Nothing. It's baffling.
 

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Has anyone thrown out Larry Andersen as a joke yet? I hope not because it's not particularly funny (for at least two reasons, one of them being it's just not that funny).
I don't think he qualifies. He is someone everyone remembers because of who he was traded for.
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I have met Larry Anderson a few times. At an electronics store in 1997, and at Phillies charity card shows. The first time I said to him , you're going to be known as a very good relief pitcher and baseball announcer but I'm a Red Sox fan and I'm always going to remember you as the guy who was traded for Jeff Bagwell. He said "Hey don't blame me I didn't make the trade" "You Guys. LOL" But he also said Boston was the best baseball town he played in and he would have stayed another 2 years but Gorman only offered him a one year deal so he took a 2 year deal with the Padres. Nice guy. Most baseball players aren't known to be the friendliest athletes. He also told a story on the radio during a Red Sox-Phillies game in Sept. 2015 of checking into a Boston hotel and fans recognizing him and saying....."Larry Andahson, Yaw the guy who was traded fah Bagwell" He said come on get over it. It's been 25 years, you've won 3 World Series.
 
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I don't think he qualifies. He is someone everyone remembers because of who he was traded for.
I have met Larry Anderson a few times. At an electronics store in 1997, and at Phillies charity card shows. The first time I said to him , you're going to be known as a very good relief pitcher and baseball announcer but I'm a Red Sox fan and I'm always going to remember you as the guy who was traded for Jeff Bagwell. He said "Hey don't blame me I didn't make the trade" "You Guys. LOL" But he also said Boston was the best baseball town he played and he would have stayed another 2 years but Gorman only offered him a one year so he took a 2 year deal with the Padres. Nice guy. Most baseball players aren't known to be the friendliest athletes. He also told a story on the radio during a Red Sox-Phillies game in Sept. 2015 of checking into a Boston hotel and fans recognizing him and saying....."Larry Andahson, Yaw the guy who was traded fah Bagwell" He said come on get over it. It's been 25 years, you've won 3 World Series.
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Great story. I am glad Anderson liked his short stint in Boston. I was less ticked off with Larry Anderson than Lou Gorman. Anderson was a good reliever, and I thought we should have made every effort to resign him. It just did not seem like a good deal, even at the time, because we had him for about five weeks and we gave up on Bagwell. (Though to tell the truth, I'm not sure Bagwell would have had the success he had in Houston if he stayed in Boston.) He credits Ken Camminitti for a lot of hits success.

Camminitti was a good ballplayer, an excellent fielder, a strong mentor, and one of two great proselytizers of the use of PEDs. (Canseco was the other). The knock on Bagwell, according to the Sox, was that he did not have enough power. Then he goes to Houston and starts getting 40 HR a year in the freaking Astrodome, where homers go to die. These two facts don't make sense unless there were PED's involved. I am not sure they were circulating around the Red Sox until later.

Interestingly, Bagwell's name is not usually mentioned in the same breath as Sosa, Bonds, Canseco, Palmeiro. (And there is no proof of steroid use.) I think it is because he was humble about his achievements and well liked by everyone. But the circumstantial evidence leans towards his likely use of anabolic steroids.
 

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MLB Channel said Andrew Benintendi tied some sort of Royals record last night, most RBI's in a 3 game stretch or something like that.

He tied it with a guy on this list, Calvin Pickering. Quite frankly, I only remembered Pickering playing for the Orioles and the Sox.
 

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In each case, Kutter Crawford and James Paxton have left me with the nagging thought that the Sox have had someone in their organization with a similar last name. As for Kutter, I kept coming back to Shag Crawford, but that wasn't satisfying because I knew that's not who I was thinking of. And then this morning I happened to be looking at the roster of the 2001 Red Sox and I stumbled across this name: Paxton Crawford!
 

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In each case, Kutter Crawford and James Paxton have left me with the nagging thought that the Sox have had someone in their organization with a similar last name. As for Kutter, I kept coming back to Shag Crawford, but that wasn't satisfying because I knew that's not who I was thinking of. And then this morning I happened to be looking at the roster of the 2001 Red Sox and I stumbled across this name: Paxton Crawford!
This is like when Ray Jarvis, Ken Tatum and Jarvis Tatum were all included in the Tony C trade.

edit- Jarvis Tatum never showed up for spring training.

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(Please no one remind @Ferm Sheller about Carl or he’ll have an aneurysm)
Ugh! You jerk. $50,000 on selective memory loss brain surgery down the drain.

EDIT: I actually had thought of Carl but quickly dismissed him -- knew it wasn't him. My thoughts fuzzy, the person I was thinking of was earlier in time and (likely) a pitcher.
 
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I remember at one point thinking he was good. He was not.
I remember when I was about 16, circa 1986, and my brother was 9 or 10, he went to a Sox game, and when he came home, he was excited that he'd gotten an autograph. I was a little bummed to see not only was it Steve Crawford's, but that it was on a post-it note, which my brother then promptly stuck to the face of this baseball card:

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But Crawford (barely) held off the Angels in Game 5 of ALCS, so we always have that.
 

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Is 4 the record for most Crawfords ever to play for one MLB franchise?
 
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Is 3 the record for most Crawfords ever to play for one MLB franchise?
It's actually 4. I was totally ready to say something like "There's been so many Crawfords this can't be true", but there's only been 22 of them from what I can tell.

Looks like Philly and the Sox have 4, St Louis (Cardinals) also appear to have 4, but the Browns and Stars (Negro League) both had one as well, so I think the city of St Louis wins.
 

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Game Five 1986 ALCS Quote of the Game... "If there had been a bathroom on the mound, I would have used it." - Steve Crawford
That 1986 team, particularly the pitching staff, would have been a SoSH favorite if we were to follow it the way we do here.
 

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In each case, Kutter Crawford and James Paxton have left me with the nagging thought that the Sox have had someone in their organization with a similar last name. As for Kutter, I kept coming back to Shag Crawford, but that wasn't satisfying because I knew that's not who I was thinking of. And then this morning I happened to be looking at the roster of the 2001 Red Sox and I stumbled across this name: Paxton Crawford!
I always have to look it up to remember if Paxton Crawford was the guy who fell out of bed in AAA and cut his back on a drinking glass that had been left on the floor (he was), or the guy who burned his hand putting out a fire in his hotel room started by a candle (the late Vaughn Eshelman).
 

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In each case, Kutter Crawford and James Paxton have left me with the nagging thought that the Sox have had someone in their organization with a similar last name. As for Kutter, I kept coming back to Shag Crawford, but that wasn't satisfying because I knew that's not who I was thinking of. And then this morning I happened to be looking at the roster of the 2001 Red Sox and I stumbled across this name: Paxton Crawford!
The Paxton you're thinking of is Mike Paxton
 

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I have a couple memories of Crawford… at least I think it’s Shag Crawford.

One is a big boy Sox reliever coming out of the bullpen during a dust up and chasing an opposing player in to left field. I think the batter charged the mound and tried to spike the pitcher.

The other is a pick off play at 2b. Pitcher is on the rubber and backhands the ball to the covering infielder. Crazy timing play and I cannot remember if they got the out.

Anybody recall?

Apologies if this isn’t main board material.
 

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The Scottish Manager. With the aid of 398 gallons of scotch and extensive electroshock therapy.
 

Sad Sam Jones

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I remember all those guys, especially Olerud and his stupid helmet.
Rickey Henderson doesn't*


*Unfortunately, Olerud later debunked the Rickey story as something the Mariners clubhouse manager made up which took on a life of its own.
 

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I remember all those guys, especially Olerud and his stupid helmet. He was a real pain in the Red Sox ass when he was on the Blue Jays
Him getting hurt during the 04 alcs for the Yankees may have helped the Sox win that series. Pretty solid with the Sox the next year, think he retired because he had a daughter with medical issues. One of my all time favorite players.
 

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Rickey Henderson doesn't*


*Unfortunately, Olerud later debunked the Rickey story as something the Mariners clubhouse manager made up which took on a life of its own.
Rickey Henderson may qualify as an answer to the question, too.

How about Jose Cruz Jr?

feel like this is becoming one of those “remember some guys” things
 

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Him getting hurt during the 04 alcs for the Yankees may have helped the Sox win that series. Pretty solid with the Sox the next year, think he retired because he had a daughter with medical issues. One of my all time favorite players.
The idea of Olerud facing a gassed Keith Foulke instead of Tony Clark in game 6 is horrifying.
 

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That 1986 team, particularly the pitching staff, would have been a SoSH favorite if we were to follow it the way we do here.
Can you imagine if Oil Can played today? He'd be a cult figure.
I still tell people his quote after the fog game in Cleveland. Tony Armas had disappeared into a dense fog chasing a fly ball into center field. A few seconds later he emerged from the fog holding the ball aloft in his glove. Some controversy ensued, since no one had actually seen him catch the ball, but the umps ruled it a catch and (I think) the Sox went on to win.
After the game, Oil Can had no sympathy for the complainers in Cleveland: "Thar's what they get for building a ball park on the ocean."
 

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The idea of Olerud facing a gassed Keith Foulke instead of Tony Clark in game 6 is horrifying.
Agreed. And how about Giambi, who wasn’t even on the Yankees postseason roster, because IIRC, he had some bad sushi in Japan early in the year that sapped him of his power :)
 

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This was the Trade Mookie topic on Ye Olde SoSH. So many locked threads.

A glass half empty guy would say that the Sox made a dumb deal giving up John Tudor (who had some great seasons a year or two later) for a DH.
A glass half full guy would say that Easler brought them Don Baylor, a key man in 1986.
Trading Tudor was dumb, but as a kid I was thrilled by the transaction. What could go wrong? Easler’s nickname was literally “The Hitman.”

It also led to the weird trade whereby the Sox traded a power hitter no-glove DH for …. a different power hitter no-glove DH.
 
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Scott Podsednik - got over 200 PA for the Sox in 2012, but that was the Bobby Valentine year and most people would like to forget that season.

J.T. Snow - 38 games in 2006.
 

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Can you imagine if Oil Can played today? He'd be a cult figure.
I still tell people his quote after the fog game in Cleveland. Tony Armas had disappeared into a dense fog chasing a fly ball into center field. A few seconds later he emerged from the fog holding the ball aloft in his glove. Some controversy ensued, since no one had actually seen him catch the ball, but the umps ruled it a catch and (I think) the Sox went on to win.
After the game, Oil Can had no sympathy for the complainers in Cleveland: "Thar's what they get for building a ball park on the ocean."
Cant find any video of the fog catch. But here is a writeup from the LA times wire service from that day

Boston center fielder Tony Armas made possibly the most difficult catch of his career Tuesday night to save the Red Sox’s 2-0 fog-shortened victory over the Cleveland Indians at Cleveland.

“I picked it up off the bat, then I just saw it at the last minute when it was coming down. It was very tough,” said Armas, who banged into the fence and plucked Mel Hall’s drive out of the fog in what became the game’s final play.


The Indians had two runners on base with two out in the bottom of the sixth inning after Armas’ catch. Umpire Larry Barnett, the crew chief, then delayed the game because of the bad visibility. After waiting 1 hour 35 minutes for the fog to lift, Barnett called the game.

“In my 23 years (as an American League umpire), this is the first time I’ve ever seen fog like this sock us in,” Barnett said. “We waited 1 1/2 hours and then went into the outfield. Any fly ball would have still been impossible.”

Cleveland Manager Pat Corrales, of course, didn’t agree with the decision to call the game.


Corrales also disagreed with a 15- minute delay in the bottom of the fifth, when Cleveland batting coach Bobby Bonds was asked to hit fly balls to Red Sox right fielder Dwight Evans to test the visibility.

“(Evans) said he couldn’t see the ball out there, but I could, and he’s a better outfielder than me,” Corrales said.

Mike Brown pitched five scoreless innings and the Red Sox scored both their runs in the first inning. It was Boston’s third straight victory and ninth in their last 10 games and gave the Red Sox a two-game lead over the idle New York Yankees in the American League East.


It was Cleveland’s fourth consecutive loss.

The fog began rolling into Municipal Stadium off the shores of Lake Erie in the third inning. Said Brown, the winning pitcher: “The fog was pretty weird, and I noticed it started lifting just after the game was called.”
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-05-28-sp-8019-story.html
 

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This was the Trade Mookie topic on Ye Olde SoSH. So many locked threads.



Trading Tudor was dumb, but as a kid I was thrilled by the transaction. What could go wrong? Easler’s nickname was literally “The Hitman.”

It also led to the weird trade whereby the Sox traded a power hitter no-glove DH for …. a different power hitter no-glove DH.
As a kid collecting baseball cards I used to always marvel at tudors 1985 season with the cardinals.....sub 2 era over 20 wins.....all of it went under the radar because of Doc Goodens epic season.
The Tudor/Easler trade is somewhat noteworthy as it also led to one of the few times the Yankees and Red Sox traded with each other --- they swapped DHs in the offseason prior to 86 to bring Don Baylor on board.
My all time forgot he was a Red Sox was Frankie sweet music viola even though it was 3 seasons it was in that dark early 90s time frame.
 

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Cant find any video of the fog catch. But here is a writeup from the LA times wire service from that day


https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-05-28-sp-8019-story.html

"Corrales also disagreed with a 15- minute delay in the bottom of the fifth, when Cleveland batting coach Bobby Bonds was asked to hit fly balls to Red Sox right fielder Dwight Evans to test the visibility."

IIRC, Ned and Monty were incredulous when Bonds started hitting fly balls to Evans. It was so surreal. Sox were leading an official, regulation game and Dewey just threw his hands up and let them land as if he was in a completely darkened room. If the umps were smart, they should have let Dewey hit to Bonds or some Indians player.

(What a dump of a stadium that was, too, BTW. Although miles better than a handful of other AL stadiums, like the Kingdome, the Metrodome, Exhibition Stadium, and on par with a few others -- County Stadium in Milwaukee, Arlington Stadium in Texas, and of course Oakland-Alameda County Stadium.)
 

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As a kid collecting baseball cards I used to always marvel at tudors 1985 season with the cardinals.....sub 2 era over 20 wins.....all of it went under the radar because of Doc Goodens epic season.
The Tudor/Easler trade is somewhat noteworthy as it also led to one of the few times the Yankees and Red Sox traded with each other --- they swapped DHs in the offseason prior to 86 to bring Don Baylor on board.
My all time forgot he was a Red Sox was Frankie sweet music viola even though it was 3 seasons it was in that dark early 90s time frame.
Those early ‘90s years had a lot of retreads. Viola, Danny Darwin, Billy Hatcher (who i mentioned earlier), Andre Dawson, Rob Deer, Otis Nixon, Damon Berryhill.

The funny part is that ugly ‘93 team actually went on a huge run mid-summer and many of us caught Red Sox fever. At one point they won 10 in a row and were tied with Toronto for the AL East lead in July.

Of course it didn’t last. The only part of that season I remember in September was the horrible MFY game where they won but the last out didn’t count because a fan ran on the field…then when they resumed, Don Mattingly hit a walk-off 2-run single.