Sure, I've seen that many times. I guess I always assumed they at least started in fair territory. Never thought about it starting foul and coming back. Thought it at had to hit fair first, at least for a second.Lose Remerswaal said:
Happens all the time, especially with bunts. This is why you'll see a fielder wait for it to get across the foul line and then dive in to grab it before it has a chance to roll back in to fair ground. Can be because the ground around the foul line is sloped a bit (no MLB rule against that), or if it hits the edge of the grass it might roll back towards fair territory.
Pretty sure you are right.cannonball 1729 said:I just watched that again - did the third base coach accidentally knock Carrera off 3rd? It kind of looks like he taps Carrera, and then Carrera falls over as the coach stands there dumbfounded.
control click, copy image URL then click the icon that looks like a picture (the one to the left of < >) and paste the link)AB in DC said:Thanks, soxhop. One of these days I'll learn how to embed clips like that.
(a) (1) He runs more than three feet away from his baseline to avoid being tagged unless his action is to avoid interference with a fielder fielding a batted ball. A runners baseline is established when the tag attempt occurs and is a straight line from the runner to the base he is attempting to reach safely; or (2) after touching first base, he leaves the baseline, obviously abandoning his effort to touch the next base;
Rule 7.08(a) Comment: Any runner after reaching first base who leaves the baseline heading for his dugout or his position believing that there is no further play, may be declared out if the umpire judges the act of the runner to be considered abandoning his efforts to run the bases. Even though an out is called, the ball remains in play in regard to any other runner.
This rule also covers the following and similar plays: Less than two out, score tied last of ninth inning, runner on first, batter hits a ball out of park for winning run, the runner on first passes second and thinking the home run automatically wins the game, cuts across diamond toward his bench as batter-runner circles bases. In this case, the base runner would be called out for abandoning his effort to touch the next base and batter-runner permitted to continue around bases to make his home run valid. If there are two out, home run would not count (see Rule 7.12). This is not an appeal play.
santadevil said:Same game as the Howard Play, deGrom issues a 5 ball walk.
http://m.mlb.com/nym/video/v406659083/nymphi-degrom-issues-fiveball-walk-to-hernandez/?game_pk=415513
Lose Remerswaal said:Broken bat earns batter a double
http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2015/08/27/14-415538-2015-08-26/web_cut/mlbtv_414505683_1200K.mp4
That place is a dump.E5 Yaz said:Shane Victorino just broke the left field fence in Oakland
Considering how fragile his body is it must have landed him on the DL.E5 Yaz said:Shane Victorino just broke the left field fence in Oakland
E5 Yaz said:Shane Victorino just broke the left field fence in Oakland
This isn't quite right. In a situation that you can earn a save, you DO get a blown save if you leave the game after giving up the lead. In last night's game, he entered leading 4-1 and left while still leading 4-3. He left the bases loaded and subsequently 2 of his runners scored, so he got tagged with all 4 runs and the loss, but it was actually the pitcher that came in after him that got the blown save as he was on the mound when the winning run scored. To make it even more unfair, Ziegler actually got credit for a hold because he held the lead (very perilously).DrewDawg said:Not really unusual play I guess, but last night Ziegler entered game for D-Backs in the 9th with 3 run lead. Had he finished off the game he would have gotten a save. Instead, though, because he blew the game he doesn't get a blown save because his appearance wasn't a save situation when he entered, it could only become one if he closed other team out.
Seems odd that in a situation where you could earn save, you don't get a blown save for not doing it.
The internet seems to think that if you blow the save and your offense comes back to take the lead, you are now the pitcher of record in line for the win and can't be charged with a second blown save.Rice4HOF said:This isn't quite right. In a situation that you can earn a save, you DO get a blown save if you leave the game after giving up the lead. In last night's game, he entered leading 4-1 and left while still leading 4-3. He left the bases loaded and subsequently 2 of his runners scored, so he got tagged with all 4 runs and the loss, but it was actually the pitcher that came in after him that got the blown save as he was on the mound when the winning run scored. To make it even more unfair, Ziegler actually got credit for a hold because he held the lead (very perilously).
In fact if a reliever comes into the game with a 1 run lead and the bases loaded in the 6th inning and allows a run to score and is replaced, he too will get charged for a blown save as it could have been a save situation if he pitched until the end of the game.
Each game can have many pitchers get holds or blown saves on both teams and at most one with the save. In fact it's possible (but I've never seen it happen) for the same pitcher to get 2 blown saves in 1 game.
Sorry I can talk all day on scoring rules, and how stupid most of them are.
I don't always believe everything I read on the internet as there are many "experts" spouting opininons who don't really know what they are talking about. But in this case what you said is absolutely correct. In that situation you'd only have one blown save, and then possibly a win or a loss as well.kieckeredinthehead said:The internet seems to think that if you blow the save and your offense comes back to take the lead, you are now the pitcher of record in line for the win and can't be charged with a second blown save.
I think he was talking about cases where the pitcher moves to left field for one or more batters and then comes back on the mound, which is totally legit.santadevil said:But pitchers can't come back in the game to pitch again.
I'm pretty sure seeing this happen would fall close behind Pedro, Tom Brady, Papi, and my kids on my list of favorite things ever.Rice4HOF said:I don't always believe everything I read on the internet as there are many "experts" spouting opininons who don't really know what they are talking about. But in this case what you said is absolutely correct. In that situation you'd only have one blown save, and then possibly a win or a loss as well.
But a pitcher being charged with 2 blown saves can happen, although I've never seen it in the MLB. It would require a pitcher to blow a save, and be replaced on the mound, but staying in the game. Later, after his team takes the lead he pitches again, and again blows another lead. He would be charged with a blown save for each of his 2 separate pitching appearances in that game.
Yes that's what I was talking about. Was a bit more common in the 70s. I remember Pirates reliever Kent Tekulve doing that a few times, presumably to bring someone in for a batter to get a lefty/lefty matchup.singaporesoxfan said:I think he was talking about cases where the pitcher moves to left field for one or more batters and then comes back on the mound, which is totally legit.
Chris Resop did this in this game in 2008 - http://m.bbref.com/m?p=XXboxesXXATLXXATL200804030.shtml
Wow! You can see his brain breaking there.LogansDad said:Rubby de la Rosa with maybe the most obvious balk in league history.
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