Looks like Domi was traded.
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Trade Deadline Game Thread
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It'll suck if they paid extra for Anaheim to retian on Lindholm and then didn't actually use the cap space.
Agreed, but not nearly as much as it would if they'd overpaid to acquire the player(s) that take up that cap space.
I mean, why does a trade deadline that includes the Bruins getting a really good defenceman feel like a loss?
Oh, probably because the other contenders in the conference (less Toronto) loaded up.
Oh, probably because the other contenders in the conference (less Toronto) loaded up.
I don't think it feels like a loss since they got arguably one of the top 3 assets traded at the deadline but it feels incomplete because they made moves specifically designed to make more moves before the deadline. If a week ago someone posted a poll would you be happy if the B's only came away with a top 4 LHD without impacting the roster I think the overwhelming response would be yes. But when you add in the salary withholding and DeBrusk extension the dominoes were in place for more.
I'd call it incomplete more than a loss. They are better than they were, which is always good. I just really think they needed a piece up front. Now we're going to battle with the ever streaky DeBrusk as our 1RW and unproven Frederic as 3RW. It's scary for a team that traditionally doesn't generate a ton of offense to begin with.
oof.
I like LIndholm but the Bruins are the best defensive team in hockey and have this guy playing second line center:
It's a bummer.
I like LIndholm but the Bruins are the best defensive team in hockey and have this guy playing second line center:
It's a bummer.
They've needed a 2C since Krejci left, and assuming nothing happened last second today, they're still without one. Haula can't keep up with Hall and Pasta's offensive game (and I'd argue has been dragging them down). Coyle looks great with Frederic and Smith currently but has looked out of his depth the few times he's been bumped up. It's a bummer that Giroux didn't work out - he was probably their best shot. The Sharks held on to Hertl and the Bs got beaten to the punch on anyone who was a clear upgrade.
Free Studnicka?
I’m constantly refreshing thinking we are either still alive with one of these queued moves or that David Krejci is in fact walking thru that door. . . . .
If they are giving Studnicka 1C duties while Bergeron is out and he shows reasonably well I don't think it is out of the realm of possibilities that he replaces Haula who has already been replaced from time to time by Nosek. Stundicka should at least be able to skate with Hall and Pasta.
9 oustanding trades if Jarmo is telling the truth.
View: https://twitter.com/TheFourthPeriod/status/1505995102182952971?s=20&t=8UOSVUDIghMcf_89tM1UnA
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Steep price for a Rakell rental.
Steep price for a Rakell rental.
Looks like Dadonov to Anaheim made it under the bell.
View: https://twitter.com/emilymkaplan/status/1506004554537701381?s=20&t=8UOSVUDIghMcf_89tM1UnA
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Riley Nash to Arizona for future considerations.
https://www.nhl.com/lightning/news/tampa-bay-lightning-acquire-forward-riley-nash-from-arizona-coyotes/c-332090502
Please let there be a Bruins trade for a forward in the queue.
https://www.nhl.com/lightning/news/tampa-bay-lightning-acquire-forward-riley-nash-from-arizona-coyotes/c-332090502
Not spending to the cap is a tough look. I know you can't force it and want good value but still.
"Sweeney said that Fabian Lysell could join either Providence or Boston this season once his WHL season comes to an end. "He could join either club, to tell you the honest truth." "From a skill standpoint, talent standpoint, Fabian has a lot of things we're excited about.
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Thanks. Had to be away from the net this afternoon but I'm caught up now. I admit to surprise when I finally logged on and saw the Bruins hadn't picked up a forward.
If Cassidy wants someone other than Haula at 2C, the only options I can see are Nozek and Studnicka.
That sucks. I get it — they were prepared to add from a payroll standpoint and I don’t think you fault them for being properly prepared — but it just feels like they didn’t have the bullets to get anyone without giving up Lohrei/Lysell or any additional draft picks which are already super lean.
I continue to be frustrated that they paid extra to retain on Lindholm. I realize that's not fair as it gave them increased flexibility today, but they didn't use it and gave up hockey assets to save Jacobs payroll expense.
This seems like a very old and unfair statement. I am no fan of Jacobs, but when is the last time he has limited the B's ability to spend to the cap?
I am glad they did not make a bad deal just because they gave up an extra pick already to retain flexibility.
In fairness, part of the extra they paid to Anaheim was to clear off Moore which impacts next years cap.
I too am a bit frustrated with how today went. It seems like they lined up and knocked over the first few dominoes but the last one wasn't in line properly and thus never got knocked over.
I'm thrilled with that they did because I didn't foresee them getting a top pairing defenseman who's signed to a long-term contract for not a ton in return. (People saying that they overpaid for him are out of their minds.)
I think you're conflating the old "jacobs is cheap" adage with what I'm saying here simply because I mentioned the only person who benefits. Salary retention requires assets, and they asked Anaheim to retain. Given that Lindholm's retention only counts for this year, and they didn't use that cap space, they paid hockey assets to pay less actual dollars on the payroll. There isn't anything unfair about that. It's just what happened. I assumed when they made that trade it was for a reason but it appears that wasn't the case.
Sure - and I assume that I'm bundling my frustration about the day in general into this rather small point (whatever value they paid to retain on Hampus), but it's still annoying.
I'm disappointed but can't fault Sweeney for not doing another Stempniak. They could have gotten Motte, but he's bottom 6. Losing Lohrei or Lysell for a Rakell rental would be bad. Copp would have been more.
I would honestly rather they just play Studnicka with Pastrnak and Hall for the final 20 games to see if he can grow into the role than overpay for more bottom 6 forwards.
Exactly.
They cleared space to give them flexibility in case something fell into their lap and could jump on it. There's nobody that got traded that I'm left here saying I wish they got for the price that was paid.
Give a few of the young guys a go and see what sticks. If nothing else, they will be impossible to score on in the playoffs and that wins games.
The Vegas/Anaheim deal is done. Cap shenanigans for Begas. I can’t quite wrap my head around it all, but believe this creates enough room for them to activate Stone before the end of the regular season .
Dadonov and a 2nd for Kesler’s contract and John Moore
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Dadonov and a 2nd for Kesler’s contract and John Moore
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The Dadonov deal is currently under some sort of review. Apparently this pertains to Dadonov’s NTC. He has a 10-team no-trade, and he believes he submitted his list with the Ducks on it in time (whenever he needed to). Vegas’ version is he did not submit the list in time/follow appropriate protocols and thus he could be traded anywhere.
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This. Let's see what Studnicka can do with Pasta and Hall. We know what we have in Haula.
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This Dadonov situation is wild, and could have major playoff implications in the West. The gist appears to be that Dadonov had a 10-team no trade for this season. The due date for submitting the list was 7/1/21, while he was a member of Ottawa. He claims, and I'm sure it'll be easy to verify, he submitted his list properly prior to 7/21 and it had the Ducks on it. Vegas was not on his list and Ottawa traded him to Vegas on 7/28. It seems the root of the problem now is that the list never made it to Vegas. Vegas says they never received the list from Ottawa. Sounds like the PA and league are now involved.
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I don't see how the league can let this go through. Dadonov had a legitimate no-trade and filed everything properly. It's not his fault the Sens fucked up and Vegas didn't do the proper due dilligence before engaging in trade talks. I guess Vegas can try to get him to waive, but I'm not sure how they do that.
For Vegas, they need this to go through for cap purposes. The math is too complicated for my feeble mind, but without this I don't think they can activate Stone and others off LTIR prior to the end of the regular season. There's a very real chance Vegas doesn't make the playoffs which means all their LTIR shenanigans were moot. They lost last night. They are currently in WC2 in the West, with a 1 point lead over Dallas but Dallas has 4 games in hand.
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I don't see how the league can let this go through. Dadonov had a legitimate no-trade and filed everything properly. It's not his fault the Sens fucked up and Vegas didn't do the proper due dilligence before engaging in trade talks. I guess Vegas can try to get him to waive, but I'm not sure how they do that.
For Vegas, they need this to go through for cap purposes. The math is too complicated for my feeble mind, but without this I don't think they can activate Stone and others off LTIR prior to the end of the regular season. There's a very real chance Vegas doesn't make the playoffs which means all their LTIR shenanigans were moot. They lost last night. They are currently in WC2 in the West, with a 1 point lead over Dallas but Dallas has 4 games in hand.
The Knights got sens-ed. Staggering incompetence from the league's most incompetent team. What a mess.
Also, I'm fully on board with the Stud on the second line strategy. There isn't much to lose in the standings and the second line, while flashy, is barely eeking out wins on a nightly basis on average and has a lot of nights where they are below water. Stud's performance last night is hard to quantify because both Marchand and Jake were really good, but they had 70% xG. It was 62% against WPG. The second line was 32% last night and 31.1% against WPG.
Also, I'm fully on board with the Stud on the second line strategy. There isn't much to lose in the standings and the second line, while flashy, is barely eeking out wins on a nightly basis on average and has a lot of nights where they are below water. Stud's performance last night is hard to quantify because both Marchand and Jake were really good, but they had 70% xG. It was 62% against WPG. The second line was 32% last night and 31.1% against WPG.
It sems like this is heading toward the Dadonov trade being voided. It seems it's been confirmed that Dadonov properly filed his no-trade list with Ottawa on 6/30, prior to the 7/1 due date. For whatever reason, Vegas and the NHL were under the impression he never filed it or did so incorrectly and thus did not have the trade protection. Ottawa seems to have misled or reported incorrect information on the trade call that happened on 7/28 when Dadonov was traded from Ottawa to Vegas. In the end, it appears Dadonov filed the list correctly, it was still valid (Vegas was not on his list, hence the NTC traveled with him), and it had Anaheim on it. I don't see how they can force this threw. The culpable parties here, in my opinion are Ottawa for relaying incorrect information to the leage and Vegas, and Vegas for not confirming/following up with their own player prior to entering into a trade agreement with another team.
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The fallout from this could have big implications. I wonder if this mess will push the league to look into the whole LTIR system. They may have a team with a payroll approaching $100 million who has no path towards becoming cap compliant
Edit: I'll also add that the NHL has culpability here. Even if the onus is on Ottawa to disclose the list on the trade call, the ANA/VGK trade never should've been approved until all the i's were dotted and t's were corssed.
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The fallout from this could have big implications. I wonder if this mess will push the league to look into the whole LTIR system. They may have a team with a payroll approaching $100 million who has no path towards becoming cap compliant
Edit: I'll also add that the NHL has culpability here. Even if the onus is on Ottawa to disclose the list on the trade call, the ANA/VGK trade never should've been approved until all the i's were dotted and t's were corssed.
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It’ll be fascinating to see what kind of punishment Vegas faces if the trade is, in fact, voided.
Can they force Vegas to not allow moves off the LTIR if it puts them over the cap? Will
Vegas have to waive players and play with a short bench and hope they can squeak by into the playoffs?
Can they force Vegas to not allow moves off the LTIR if it puts them over the cap? Will
Vegas have to waive players and play with a short bench and hope they can squeak by into the playoffs?
Yeah, I don't know. I think at the end of the day they are likely to have a healthy player on LTIR who they can't activate due to cap compliance. Whether that results in punishment by the league or some sort of PA grievance is anybody's guess.
It's possible they could make another trade but it's not easy. Any player traded after the deadline becomes ineligible to play for the rest of the regular season and playoffs. So theoretically they could try to trade Dadonov to another team that's not on his no list, but that ends Dadonov's season and they'd also only be able to work with non-playoff teams.
Edit: There's also a lot of finger point at Ottawa. Not sure if they are in line for punishment.
It's possible they could make another trade but it's not easy. Any player traded after the deadline becomes ineligible to play for the rest of the regular season and playoffs. So theoretically they could try to trade Dadonov to another team that's not on his no list, but that ends Dadonov's season and they'd also only be able to work with non-playoff teams.
Edit: There's also a lot of finger point at Ottawa. Not sure if they are in line for punishment.