"funny"It will be funny and ironic if/when Dario Saric ends up being their best player to show for all these drafts where they picked in the top 3.
"funny"It will be funny and ironic if/when Dario Saric ends up being their best player to show for all these drafts where they picked in the top 3.
LondonSox would like to have a word with you...It will be funny and ironic if/when Dario Saric ends up being their best player to show for all these drafts where they picked in the top 3.
Really? Is this the same injury that was announced the day after he was dancing on stage at a live show?I know someone on the inside who has spoken directly with Joel and asked about the knee. There is real concern there - nothing to do with tanking.
Sources: Andrew Bogut agrees to buyout with 76ers
Bogut has narrowed his next destination to Cleveland, Houston, San Antonio or Boston, and will have conversations over the next 24 hours with general managers and coaches from those teams, league sources said.
a trade with the Dallas Mavericks." data-reactid="17">Bogut’s agent, David Bauman, had worked with the 76ers’ front office on a plan for release since the team acquired the center Thursday in a trade with the Dallas Mavericks.
Bogut had a phone conversation with 76ers coach Brett Brown and expressed respect for Brown and the team’s culture, league sources said. Nevertheless, Bogut maintained a strong desire to enter free agency and pursue a role on a championship contender.
Bogut spent five years with the Warriors before joining the Mavericks. He served as Golden State’s starting center and defensive anchor during the 2015 championship season.
Noel had pissed off basically the entire organization. Not as bad as a Boogie Cousins situation but he clearly was not getting a LT deal from Philly. I think they waited too long to deal him but they probably had to because of the Embiid certainty and his own injury issues.Really? Is this the same injury that was announced the day after he was dancing on stage at a live show?
Not saying your source is inaccurate, but it would be extremely befuddling to me why the Sixers traded Noel if they thought there was any chance that Embiid's injury was really serious. I mean what's the thinking there?
I don't get why he was great until they totally fucked up the situation.Noel had pissed off basically the entire organization. Not as bad as a Boogie Cousins situation but he clearly was not getting a LT deal from Philly. I think they waited too long to deal him but they probably had to because of the Embiid certainty and his own injury issues.
This is depressing to read. Embiid is such a fun player and just insanely gifted. If Oden had not had his injury problems, would the evolution of the NBA have passed him by at this point? Would he basically be Roy Hibbert? Jahlil Okafor? Whiteside at the very best comparison?Joel Embiid played 31 games across his first three seasons in the NBA. Greg Oden, for comparison, played 82.
Somewhat shockingly he's a RFA next summer (2018). I'm guessing he's a max guy just based on potential but I don't envy the GM or owner who has to make that decision.
That undersells Oden by a lot.Would he basically be Roy Hibbert? Jahlil Okafor? Whiteside at the very best comparison?
Noel had every right to stand up for himself. I'm not as long on him as many, I think he will be a nice complementary piece but he was entering a contract year and essentially benched because the organization had drafted 3 centers over 3 seasons. If I'm a lottery pick and my team selects centers with the #3 pick in the two years I'm drafted I'm going to make Noel's outrage appear sane. He was fvcked by the prior administration and stood up for himself. I doubt very much he's more of an a-hole than your typical entitled young NBA player.Noel had pissed off basically the entire organization. Not as bad as a Boogie Cousins situation but he clearly was not getting a LT deal from Philly. I think they waited too long to deal him but they probably had to because of the Embiid certainty and his own injury issues.
Not necessarily disagreeing with you. Just relaying what I've learned regarding the organization's opinion of him. Don't blame these players at all. The money is so immense that being in a bad situation can really cost you.Noel had every right to stand up for himself. I'm not as long on him as many, I think he will be a nice complementary piece but he was entering a contract year and essentially benched because the organization had drafted 3 centers over 3 seasons. If I'm a lottery pick and my team selects centers with the #3 pick in the two years I'm drafted I'm going to make Noel's outrage appear sane. He was fvcked by the prior administration and stood up for himself. I doubt very much he's more of an a-hole than your typical entitled young NBA player.
Yeah I agree it's all about the money and in Noel's case it should have been. He had to force himself out of that terrible situation and get into a position without a logjam at his position on a team willing to commit to him.Not necessarily disagreeing with you. Just relaying what I've learned regarding the organization's opinion of him. Don't blame these players at all. The money is so immense that being in a bad situation can really cost you.
Well based on his first two years he would have been something close to peak Dwight Howard, except he showed the potential through his FT% (64,77) and his 10-16 ft jumper (38% in 09) that maybe he develops a 3 ball. So... yeah he was probably going to be a perennial all-star if he kept up his pace, almost nobody rebounds like he did and is that efficient in terms of TS%.This is depressing to read. Embiid is such a fun player and just insanely gifted. If Oden had not had his injury problems, would the evolution of the NBA have passed him by at this point? Would he basically be Roy Hibbert? Jahlil Okafor? Whiteside at the very best comparison?
And they traded a 28 year-old Iguodala coming off an all-star season and literally had nothing to show for it since Bynum's knees were shot.MCW, Noel, Embiid, Saric, Okafor and Simmons... that's six lottery picks since the start of the "Process" era and not much to show for it in terms of on-court production. I feel bad for Philly fans.
Let's say today's team was still Jrue, Evan Turner, Iggy, Thad Young and Vucevic with Lou Williams, Jodie Meeks and Spencer Hawes off the bench plus whatever they cobbled together from the draft and free agency the past five years. How many games do they win in today's Eastern Conference?And they traded a 28 year-old Iguodala coming off an all-star season and literally had nothing to show for it since Bynum's knees were shot.
The Sixers Evan Turner or the Brad Stevens version of Evan Turner? Just asking... lolLet's say today's team was still Jrue, Evan Turner, Iggy, Thad Young and Vucevic with Lou Williams, Jodie Meeks and Spencer Hawes off the bench plus whatever they cobbled together from the draft and free agency the past five years. How many games do they win in today's Eastern Conference?
Wow, that's as bad as it gets.NBA fans should be bummed about Embiid, but for Sixers fans, don't worry, Oak's got this.
Seriously though, if he's not hurt, that's a disgraceful effort and a snapshot of why his on/off numbers suck.
His passing is better if anything. His best skill.Dario Saric's last 13: 31.2mpg, 19.6 points, 8.4 rebounds, 3.7 assists, 1 steal on .487/.309/.800 shooting. The assists number has been on the climb of late. Is his passing as good as his numbers? I haven't seen many Philly games this year but I'm thinking Dario is ROY.
The excitement seems a bit much. He's had a streak of good shooting. That's nice. But I'm not changing my view on a dozen games.I'm shocked at his performance as a rookie and the constant improvement. I've raised my ceiling and floor on him. There's basically low risk he's not a useful player now. And if he can sort his shot out he's legit good.
"Low risk he's not a useful player now" is about as slow as you can be. In the 22 games he's started he is at 15.1 points, 7.2 rebounds, 3.1 assists on .431/.358/.750 shooting. In the last 16 games, 20.3, 8.0, 3.8 on .484/.326/.778. People are calling Jaylen Brown a potential all star on far less. I'd say it's very low risk that Saric isn't a useful player and it's safe to adjust your ceiling. The sample size of good play is approaching 2 dozen games now. It's not like he told us what he adjusted his floor and ceiling too.The excitement seems a bit much. He's had a streak of good shooting. That's nice. But I'm not changing my view on a dozen games.
Let's slow down a bit huh. All fans tend to want to look for success from their young guys, and over-react to samples.
So then what's the excuse with Dario? I kid, but the dude is a only a month younger than Marcus Smart. Fun guy to watch though, and if Simmons and Embiid get/stay healthy, and the Sixers somehow end up with Lonzo, the ball movement on that team is going to be something to behold.All fans tend to want to look for success from their young guys
“I always say it’s stupid to compare me and Toni Kukoc because Toni Kukoc is like, the big player, like Sixth Man [of the Year] in the NBA," Saric said. "One day, I want to become that level of player. I will work for that. But only God knows if I will get there or not.”
I can't tell if you're overrating Saric, or underrating Butler. I guess probably both?Saric isn't going to be a second unit player. I'd give up as many assets for Saric as I would for Jimmy Butler.
I could see the reasoning on a team that isn't a win-now team, because of salary considerations and the fact that they may be similar value players in 3-4 years if you squint and give Saric some projection based on him being a rookie rather than being a 22 YO (kind of like Butler).I can't tell if you're overrating Saric, or underrating Butler. I guess probably both?
I think you need to squint an awful lot on Saric, but I kind of took him to be talking about from the Celtics POV (i.e., giving up assets for Butler or Saric). I may have misunderstood.I could see the reasoning on a team that isn't a win-now team, because of salary considerations and the fact that they may be similar value players in 3-4 years if you squint and give Saric some projection based on him being a rookie rather than being a 22 YO (kind of like Butler).
Saric isn't going to be a second unit player but he has a long way to go defensively to even be passable from the games I've seen. Right now he's Enes Kanter-like bad on that end of the floor.Saric isn't going to be a second unit player. I'd give up as many assets for Saric as I would for Jimmy Butler.
Oh now be nice. He's not THAT bad and tries. He's just not remotely athleticSaric isn't going to be a second unit player but he has a long way to go defensively to even be passable from the games I've seen. Right now he's Enes Kanter-like bad on that end of the floor.