The premature re-signing Lester thread

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glennhoffmania

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nvalvo said:
Let me first stipulate a few things. 
 
1) It was a fuckup to fail to extend Lester for something like 5/$105 (2015-19) in the spring. 
 
2) Lester can be resigned now for somewhere between 6/$130 (2015-20) and 7/$140 (2015-21). That's a bunch more money. 
 
3) Cespedes has sufficient value to teams like Seattle and Washington that have deep rotations and need power bats to be the centerpiece of a deal for a starter like Fister or Iwakuma. 
 
4) Fangraphs just said that Henry Owens' rights are worth between $20 and $30m in surplus value. 
 
If, having mishandled the springtime negotiations, Ben is able to manage matters such that Lester returns and Cespedes is dealt for a good starting pitcher, that will be quite impressive. The extra cost in Lester's deal will be roughly equivalent to the surplus value of a top prospect that it would otherwise take to pry such a pitcher away.
 
Of course, that leaves aside CBT ramifications, but still... maybe he knows what he's doing?
 
Why would Washington want Cespedes?  They have Werth, Harper, Span and no DH spot available.
 

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Hamels trade next?
 
If this happens Ben should just call the Angels and ask for Trout in a trade for Bucholtz... Everything else seems to be coming up Cherrington.
 

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Snoop Soxy Dogg said:
 
Man, is Jake Wesley for real? Don't mess with us on this one Jake.
Kind of wonder if he just saw the Gammons article and is reporting based on that.
 

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Snoop Soxy Dogg said:
 
Man, is Jake Wesley for real? Don't mess with us on this one Jake.
 
He said last night that it wasn't going to happen.
 

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SoxFanForsyth said:
Kind of wonder if he just saw the Gammons article and is reporting based on that.
 
No way. This is Jake Wesley we're talking about, here.
 

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If this kid scoops another story, I would take a long hard look into my IT security if I was an agent or a MLB front office.  It is much more common for a 14 year old to be really good with computers than it is for them to be getting info leaked to them on a regular basis.
 

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Another crazy day on baseball's Hot Stove. I need to call Christopher Meola and find out what I'm having for dinner.
 

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“@PeteAbe: Source: #RedSox still very much engaged with @JLester31, process ongoing. Recent signings do not preclude his return.”
 

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E5 Yaz said:
 
He said last night that it wasn't going to happen.
 
So you admit that he's going to be correct on this one, one way or the other.  Sounds like he's got a great journalism career lined up.
 

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When Ben writes his autobiography in 20 years, it's going to turn out that he was Jake Wesley.  Eventually, GMs are going to get sick of having to feed information to reporters to get it leaked.  Just do it yourself.  Set up an account as a 14-year old boy, post some inside stuff to establish your credibility, and then you've basically got your own mini Pravada working for you that's never farther away than your cell phone.
 
Edit:  Pravda.
 

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If Wesley is infact correct, than if would seem he has more than just a source through the Wasserman Group.  While Stanton and Hanley share the same agent, Pablo and Lester both have different agents.  
 

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DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
 
So you admit that he's going to be correct on this one, one way or the other.  Sounds like he's got a great journalism career lined up.
 
Nah, his spelling's too good
 

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E5 Yaz said:
 
At some point, one of these is going to bite him in the ass
 
He is like DeCaprio's character in The Quick and the Dead. Young...cocky...fast...accurate as hell. Just hope this latest claim isn't his Gene Hackman.  I like this kid.
 

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Green Monster said:
If Wesley is infact correct, than if would seem he has more than just a source through the Wasserman Group.  While Stanton and Hanley share the same agent, Pablo and Lester both have different agents.  
 
This is the very reason SoSH didn't sign Corsi to a long term contract.  A young kid is already coming up and burying him.
 

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Green Monster said:
If Wesley is infact correct, than if would seem he has more than just a source through the Wasserman Group.  While Stanton and Hanley share the same agent, Pablo and Lester both have different agents.  
 
Has anyone confirmed that this kid is a real person? 
 

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DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
When Ben writes his autobiography in 20 years, it's going to turn out that he was Jake Wesley.  Eventually, GMs are going to get sick of having to feed information to reporters to get it leaked.  Just do it yourself.  Set up an account as a 14-year old boy, post some inside stuff to establish your credibility, and then you've basically got your own mini Pravada working for you that's never farther away than your cell phone.
 
Awesome.
 

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Green Monster said:
If Wesley is infact correct, than if would seem he has more than just a source through the Wasserman Group.  While Stanton and Hanley share the same agent, Pablo and Lester both have different agents.  
Well it is Chris Meola who has the likely Wasserman tie, Wesley just went with his stories on those two. These others though? Kid has a source somewhere.
 

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The kid just followed Punchado last night. Is he watching over us?
 


He said last night that it wasn't going to happen.
 
He said it was less likely after the two signings, Unbeliever.
 

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[@BahstonStrong13 @PeteAbe @pgammo @nickcafardo @TonyMassarotti they are relatively close I heard . Never certain in this business

@BahstonStrong13 @PeteAbe @pgammo @nickcafardo @TonyMassarotti well I have a inside man. Got me Hanley; panda; and closeness of Lester.First

Tweets from jake wesley
 

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"Never certain in this business" is his best line yet. Put this kid on Sportscenter, ASAP.
 

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"Kid" who apparently has way to much spare time, is up at all hours of the night, trolls Sox fans and follows Punchado...you guys don't think...nahhhhh
 

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soxhop411 said:
[@BahstonStrong13 @PeteAbe @pgammo @nickcafardo @TonyMassarotti they are relatively close I heard . Never certain in this business

@BahstonStrong13 @PeteAbe @pgammo @nickcafardo @TonyMassarotti well I have a inside man. Got me Hanley; panda; and closeness of Lester.First

Tweets from jake wesley
 
I love how he is lecturing the Boston area reporters about the business!
 
edit: too late
 

Ed Hillel

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koufax32 said:
"Kid" who apparently has way to much spare time, is up at all hours of the night, trolls Sox fans and follows Punchado...you guys don't think...nahhhhh
 
But why would such a person ever pretend to be a 14-year old k..
 
Oh.
 
Oh.
 
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
 

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Just remember - in a 14-year-old's world, the Boston Red Sox have been the premier organization in the American League in his lifetime and the Yankees are a team that bought themselves a single champioship but are mostly a bloated mess. :buddy:
 

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E5 Yaz said:
 
How much is a Big Gulp, anyway?
I hate those posts where someone has nothing to say except "good post" but good post.
At least I didn't put an emoticon
 
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