The 2015 49ers: Busted Kap.

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I think he could be a nice sleeper guy to stash on your bench in fantasy till you see what happens in roster cutdowns and how they use him, but I can't get him to come up in my ESPN league.
 

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Using a guy like that in the wildcat or read option is what I want to see. Someone who has been latteralling on the run his entire life.
 

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Myt1 said:
Using a guy like that in the wildcat or read option is what I want to see. Someone who has been latteralling on the run his entire life.
Granted he's the RB in this situation, but here he is in the read option last night:



 

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The problem for Hayne is that the OL is terrible.  I don't think he is going to see spacing like that in the regular season.  That said, barring Kaepernick suddenly figuring things out, Hayne could be the only reason to watch the Niners this season.  
 
So in addition to Trotter's report, there's this:
 
 
John Middlekauff ‏@JohnMiddlekauff  4m4 minutes ago
Some weird stuff today swirling around the #49ers. Not really sure why I'm remotely surprised. Been a bizarre training camp
 
 
 
and this:
Torrey Smith @TorreySmithWR

Some things don't make sense to me
 
 
 
But no one seems willing to elaborate, so I don't know what's going on.  It seems like more than just average cut-down day unhappiness, but who knows.  
 

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Aldon Smith heading to Oakland on a 1 year deal.
 
That it's the Raiders doing this surprises me not at all.
 
And if the Niners crap luck continues, he'll have a dozen sacks for them too.
 
I know he's eligible this week, but after his multiple suspensions and continued off the field issues, I wouldn't be surprised for him to get a 10 game suspension. He got 8 last season and then had another incident.
 

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Aldon Smith heading to Oakland on a 1 year deal.
 
That it's the Raiders doing this surprises me not at all.
 
And if the Niners crap luck continues, he'll have a dozen sacks for them too.
Why are you not surprised it's the raiders? These aren't the al Davis raiders anymore.

Seriously, name the last player they signed or drafted with character issues.

Seems like a good low risk signing
 

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Impressive win. The OL stronger than could be expected and the D better than touted in the media, though the media ignored how much talent remained on the defensive side of the ball. Vikes weak on both lines, though, so tougher tests to follow.
 
Will give Kaepernick an INC...showed some improvement, but it's early to call it real.
 
Not too early on Hyde, though: he's a stud.
 

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Some thoughts on last night's game:
 
- My feeling that this team was nowhere near as bad as media narrative was making it out to be was largely confirmed.  They still have plenty of weaknesses, but I'm pretty sure they're not going to go 4-12.  My preseason expectation was 7-9/8-8, with a shot at a playoff spot if things break right. I still feel that way. This was the sort of game -- home game against a weaker team -- they need to win to have a successful season, and it's a good sign that they comfortably took care of business.
- The defense has the potential to be very good.  While lacking starpower except for Bowman (if he returns to his 2013 form), the front 7 is solid at every spot, the DL has depth, and the safeties are very good.  They dominated a poor Vikes OL last night.  Minnesota didn't test their CB weakness much, but we'll find out more about the secondary next week against Pittsburgh and Antonio Brown.
- We knew Staley and Boone were going to be fine, but the right side of the line was a big question mark.  Staley was dominant, but the whole group were solid last night, against a below-average Vikings front.  SF was 30th in Adjusted Sack Rate last year, but Kaepernick was sacked only once on ~30 dropbacks last night, and the line opened consistent holes all night.
- Kaepernick was ok but no better.  He had some accuracy issues, but he avoided mistakes and negative plays -- no turnovers, only one sack, no delay of game or intentional grounding penalties, etc. -- and he made a few nice throws to keep the chains moving.  His scrambling was also a threat.  This was very much a dink and dunk performance, they got almost nothing going downfield but had success with short passes, especially on roll-outs and play-action.  An Alex Smith sort of game.  They can win a bunch of games with that level of performance when they run the ball like they did and play good D, but they will need more from Kaep against better teams where they don't dominate the lines on both sides.
- Carlos Hyde looks like a star.  His burst through the hole is really impressive and he's hard to bring down.
- Hayne ... yikes.  Less said the better here.
- They got lucky with the missed PI call on Bethea in the end zone.  
 
Some notes scheme-wise:
- After being a primarily power run team under Harbaugh, they are now almost exclusively a zone run team.  That fits Hyde well.  
- Lots of 3-TE personnel groups.  They clearly saw something on film that suggested they could get an edge that way, and it allows them to do fun things with shifts and formations.  All 3 TEs can both block and run routes, which gives them versatility to get good matchups.
- Lots of getting Kaep moving outside the pocket with bootlegs and roll-outs, a tactic Harbaugh/Roman never used enough.  They spread the ball around more than under Harbaugh/Roman, too: 8 players had receptions, including 3 TEs and 2 RBs.
- Mangini blitzes way more than Fangio did.  It worked well last night with five sacks and consistent pressure against a bad Minn line.
 
A nice win, but all it proves to me is that they won't be terrible.  Remember, last year in Week 1 the Niners waxed Dallas on the road with Kaep flinging the ball all over the place.  That game turned out to have zero predictive value for the rest of the season.  Pitt on the road next week should be a better test.
 

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The Niners got waxed by Pittsburgh, 43-18 yesterday.
 
What went wrong:
 
- Let's start with pass defense.  The CBs are a team weakness, but this went far beyond that.  The safeties, normally a strength, were terrible -- both Reid and Bethea got beat deep repeatedly.  The scheme was bad -- they kept trying to play a disguised Cover 2 where Reid would line up close to the line, then dash backward to defend the deep half, but Roethlisberger wasn't fooled and Reid frequently wasn't fast enough to get back in position quickly enough.  They blitzed at the wrong times (on multiple occasions Pittsburgh had screens called when the Niners sent pressure) and then couldn't generate any pressure when they didn't blitz (Roethlisberger was not sacked yesterday).  There were communication breakdowns that ended up with linebackers covering WRs in deep coverage or sometimes Antonio Brown not being covered at all.  That's how you allow 14.6 yard per attempt and 29 points by halftime.  It was a disaster.
 
- The team's other big personnel weakness is the right side of the O-Line, and they were terrible too, especially in the first half.  The line allowed five sacks, and the running backs had only 60 yards on 23 carries.  RT Erik Pears was particularly bad.  
 
- Red zone problems.  On four different drives they had first and goal.  Those drives produced a combined 11 points.  Even the one touchdown they scored came on fourth down.  All told by my count they ran 23 plays in the red zone and scored 1 TD.  That is ... not good.
 
- Return of the delay of game problems.  A perennial issue under Harbaugh, this surfaced again yesterday; they got called for one delay of game penalty and had to twice burn timeouts to avoid additional others.
 
- Poor game plan.  I already mentioned issues with the defensive scheme.  It took the Niners way too long to realize that Pittsburgh had watched the Minn film and wasn't going to allow Carlos Hyde to rumble through them.  By the time the offense made adjustments, it was too late and they were already down 29-3.
 
- Injuries.  Carlos Hyde took a hard hit to the knee in the first half and then got knocked out early in the third quarter.  He cleared the concussion protocol, but the coaches held him out anyway (probably wisely).  
 
Any positives?
 
- Kaepernick looked very good, especially in the second half when he finally got into a rhythm.  Yes, much of it was basically garbage time, but 33-46/335/2/0 with 51 yards rushing on 8 carries is a strong performance, and it could have been even better; Boldin dropped a pass when wide open that would have been a 20+ yard gain, and Bruce Miller dropped what should have been a TD on 4th down.  Kaep was easily their best player yesterday; he was getting the ball out on time with accuracy, and his decision-making was good.  
 
- Some fun misleading stats: the total yardage was close (453-409) and SF actually had more first downs (27-21).  
 
- Want some excuses?  10 am PST start on a short week with long travel blah blah blah.  I tend to think that sort of thing doesn't matter nearly as much as people tend to say (I think the 49ers under Harbaugh were something like 8-0 in 1 pm EST games), but it couldn't have helped.
 
Next week they are at Arizona.  They will need to play much better to be competitive against an Arizona team that has looked pretty good through two weeks, albeit against poor competition. With Seattle and St Louis both losing yesterday, a win next week would put them in good early position in the division.  The line opened at AZ-6 and has already moved to -7.
 

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coremiller said:
The Niners got waxed by Pittsburgh, 43-18 yesterday.
 
What went wrong:
 
- Let's start with pass defense.  The CBs are a team weakness, but this went far beyond that.  The safeties, normally a strength, were terrible -- both Reid and Bethea got beat deep repeatedly.  The scheme was bad -- they kept trying to play a disguised Cover 2 where Reid would line up close to the line, then dash backward to defend the deep half, but Roethlisberger wasn't fooled and Reid frequently wasn't fast enough to get back in position quickly enough.  They blitzed at the wrong times (on multiple occasions Pittsburgh had screens called when the Niners sent pressure) and then couldn't generate any pressure when they didn't blitz (Roethlisberger was not sacked yesterday).  There were communication breakdowns that ended up with linebackers covering WRs in deep coverage or sometimes Antonio Brown not being covered at all.  That's how you allow 14.6 yard per attempt and 29 points by halftime.  It was a disaster.
 
- The team's other big personnel weakness is the right side of the O-Line, and they were terrible too, especially in the first half.  The line allowed five sacks, and the running backs had only 60 yards on 23 carries.  RT Erik Pears was particularly bad.  
 
- Red zone problems.  On four different drives they had first and goal.  Those drives produced a combined 11 points.  Even the one touchdown they scored came on fourth down.  All told by my count they ran 23 plays in the red zone and scored 1 TD.  That is ... not good.
 
- Return of the delay of game problems.  A perennial issue under Harbaugh, this surfaced again yesterday; they got called for one delay of game penalty and had to twice burn timeouts to avoid additional others.
 
- Poor game plan.  I already mentioned issues with the defensive scheme.  It took the Niners way too long to realize that Pittsburgh had watched the Minn film and wasn't going to allow Carlos Hyde to rumble through them.  By the time the offense made adjustments, it was too late and they were already down 29-3.
 
- Injuries.  Carlos Hyde took a hard hit to the knee in the first half and then got knocked out early in the third quarter.  He cleared the concussion protocol, but the coaches held him out anyway (probably wisely).  
 
Any positives?
 
- Kaepernick looked very good, especially in the second half when he finally got into a rhythm.  Yes, much of it was basically garbage time, but 33-46/335/2/0 with 51 yards rushing on 8 carries is a strong performance, and it could have been even better; Boldin dropped a pass when wide open that would have been a 20+ yard gain, and Bruce Miller dropped what should have been a TD on 4th down.  Kaep was easily their best player yesterday; he was getting the ball out on time with accuracy, and his decision-making was good.  
 
- Some fun misleading stats: the total yardage was close (453-409) and SF actually had more first downs (27-21).  
 
- Want some excuses?  10 am PST start on a short week with long travel blah blah blah.  I tend to think that sort of thing doesn't matter nearly as much as people tend to say (I think the 49ers under Harbaugh were something like 8-0 in 1 pm EST games), but it couldn't have helped.
 
Next week they are at Arizona.  They will need to play much better to be competitive against an Arizona team that has looked pretty good through two weeks, albeit against poor competition. With Seattle and St Louis both losing yesterday, a win next week would put them in good early position in the division.  The line opened at AZ-6 and has already moved to -7.
 
I still think that week 1 win was big for this team. They open with a brutal schedule and if they can pick off a win in ARI, even granting a GB loss the week after, the schedule will loosen up a bit and no one will be running away with the division. Next week, with a full week of practice, is important.
 
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I was surprised to see the 9ers come out and win week one, but I don't see them winning this division.  The only reason I agree with "no one will be running away with the division" is that I believe Seattle AND Arizona are going to win a bunch of games.  (St. Louis could be a tough out, 'though obviously not on the level of those two teams.)  IMO, if anyone can lay claim to "tough early schedule but we'll be okay" it's what Indy might call the "Super Bowl Finalist" that won your division last year.
 

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I was surprised to see the 9ers come out and win week one, but I don't see them winning this division.  The only reason I agree with "no one will be running away with the division" is that I believe Seattle AND Arizona are going to win a bunch of games.  (St. Louis could be a tough out, 'though obviously not on the level of those two teams.)  IMO, if anyone can lay claim to "tough early schedule but we'll be okay" it's what Indy might call the "Super Bowl Finalist" that won your division last year.
 
The Seahawks opened with he Rams, had a full week before the packers and now get to go play the Bears and Lions. Where's the tough part of their schedule?
 
49ers opened with the Vikings at 10.pm. ET monday night and then had to travel to Pitt at 1 p.m. Sunday. Now they get the Cardinals on the road and then Packers. In the end, the schedules will even out, and the Seahawks are a better team, but the Niners have a much more brutal opening.
 
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I disagree. Rams in St. Louis has been a particularly tough match up for Seattle and the Packers rank, at worst, as the third-best team in the conference. It's arguable they're the #1 team in the NFC.

And how is playing the Vikings at "10 pm eastern" an argument? If my grade school math holds any water, that's a 7 pm game for SF. In that matchup it's MINNESOTA who holds the rights to any time-zone complaint, no?

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I'm not sure I fully understood your post and I'm not sure you understood mine. I think seattle's first two games were tougher than SF's. But I agree that the Seahawks schedule is easier from here on out, which is why I was saying I think they will compete with AZ for the NFC WEST crown.

My main point is that I disagree that the 49ers will be in the race for the division. IMO they won't.
 

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They just gave up 90 points in 2 games.
 
They could easily be 1-10 before they play the Bears, Browns and Lions in December:
Packers, @NYG, Ravens, Seahawks, @Rams, Falcons, @Seahawks, Cardinals
 

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Ravens at home should be a nice clash between two absolute dumpster fires. Tomsula looks like a total failure as a HC but I'm not seeing anything that would have them looking much better with Harbaugh. They did him a favor shit canning him. How much more rope does biracial Pacino have before he gets benched? Those back to back pick-6's were about as bad as playing the position gets.
 

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An actual quote from Tomsula during a recent press conference: "OK? Boom, woosh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh. OK?"
 
http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/jim-tomsula-two-weeks-now-havent-seen-offense/
 
He says "OK?" 20 times over the course of two answers. I feel kinda bad for the guy because he's simply not fit to be a HC. It's baffling how badly Baalke misplayed his little power struggle by hiring this guy, he's probably gone in the offseason now (at least I hope so). I'd much rather still have Harbaugh than him.
 

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JCizzle said:
An actual quote from Tomsula during a recent press conference: "OK? Boom, woosh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh. OK?"
 
http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/jim-tomsula-two-weeks-now-havent-seen-offense/
 
He says "OK?" 20 times over the course of two answers. I feel kinda bad for the guy because he's simply not fit to be a HC. It's baffling how badly Baalke misplayed his little power struggle by hiring this guy, he's probably gone in the offseason now (at least I hope so). I'd much rather still have Harbaugh than him.
Tomsula is not a bad guy just clearly way in over his head. And needs media training.
As a Pats fan and casual observer out here though it's great theater. Not sure anything will top Singletary and his "Winners" speech, dropping his pants at half time, Physical with an "F", etc. High comedy.
 

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Boy, that team really has had some wacky coaches of late -- among Singletary, Harbaugh, and now Tomsula you have to give them credit for hiring guys who aren't standard form NFL coaches. Funny to think that with Walsh (and to a lesser degree  Seifert and Mariucci after him) they were the Pats of their era -- as cool and intellectual as can be. Fair to say they've moved away from that model, eh? Here's hoping the post-BB era doesn't bring us a similar shift.  
 

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Boy, that team really has had some wacky coaches of late -- among Singletary, Harbaugh, and now Tomsula you have to give them credit for hiring guys who aren't standard form NFL coaches. Funny to think that with Walsh (and to a lesser degree  Seifert and Mariucci after him) they were the Pats of their era -- as cool and intellectual as can be. Fair to say they've moved away from that model, eh? Here's hoping the post-BB era doesn't bring us a similar shift.  
 
It all starts with ownership that doesn´t give a crap about the team.  When Ed Debartolo was stripped of the team everything changed. 
 
I thought for a second that Jed York did care, and I think hiring Harbaugh was the correct choice (plus they had a couple of good draft and a solid core of players).  Then it went downhill pretty quickly.
 
And as a "bonus", they still have to watch Rodgers (who was the ideal fit and was from the area) be one of the 3 best QBs in the league.
 

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Gawd, Kaepernick sounds like a moron in the post game, not that this is the first time I've heard him or decided that. Part of Jim Harbaugh's legacy with the 49ers has to be drafting him and throwing everything behind him. He did take them to the super bowl though.
 

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Al Zarilla said:
Gawd, Kaepernick sounds like a moron in the post game, not that this is the first time I've heard him or decided that. Part of Jim Harbaugh's legacy with the 49ers has to be drafting him and throwing everything behind him. He did take them to the super bowl though.
He was never a stud, but his regression this year is eye opening. A lot of it falls on him, but I don't think the coaching staff is doing much to put him in a position to succeed. The fall off from Harbs to Jimmy T is huge.
 

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Didn't see the game, how did the Niners only let up 17. was Green Bay bad or did D play like they did the opener?
 

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Al Zarilla said:
Gawd, Kaepernick sounds like a moron in the post game, not that this is the first time I've heard him or decided that. Part of Jim Harbaugh's legacy with the 49ers has to be drafting him and throwing everything behind him. He did take them to the super bowl though.
 
With Kaepernick they were one play away from winning the Super Bowl and one play away from getting back in it.  I think the loss of Harbaugh will be costly.
 
Also, he had a better supporting staff around him, plus a stellar defense. 
 

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Didn't see the game, how did the Niners only let up 17. was Green Bay bad or did D play like they did the opener?
Rodgers wasn't as precise as he usually is, but the 49ers defense did play very well, like against the Vikings. 
 

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Didn't Jaws something completely insane last year about Kaep having the potential to be the greatest QB ever to play football?
Yes. Hate to slam Jaws, but this almost certainly stands as his most embarrassing moment as an analyst.

Heard on the field today from a Packer directed to Kap -- "you are no Russell Wilson, bro."

So just 3 years ago, Kap and RGIII were supposed to have turned the NFL on its head; things would never be the same again.
 

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So just 3 years ago, Kap and RGIII were supposed to have turned the NFL on its head; things would never be the same again.
 
Turns out getting blown up 4x as often as pocket passers does wonders for a quarterback's career.
 
Sometimes the conventional wisdom is right.
 

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Devizier said:
 
Turns out getting blown up 4x as often as pocket passers does wonders for a quarterback's career.
 
Sometimes the conventional wisdom is right.
 
This isn't accurate.  RG3's problems can maybe be traced to injuries, but not Kaepernick's.  Kaepernick has never missed a game with an injury, and the only injury I can recall him having was a minor foot injury in 2013.  He looks just as athletic now as he ever was, maybe a little bit heavier with more muscle and a little less quickness.  And he rarely takes hard hits on runs, he slides a lot on his runs (frustratingly so sometimes, because he gives up yards to do so).
 
Also, besides the injuries, RG3 was never the same after teams had tape on him and the pistol/read-option and were able to prepare for it.  Kaepernick was pretty good in 2013, above average rate-wise albeit in lowish volume, after teams had a full off-season to prepare for him.  It has been clear for a long time that 2012 Kaepernick was probably never coming back, but where has 2013 Kaepernick gone?
 
Kaepernick has been terrible, but he's far from the only problem with the offense.  They are poorly coached, and the line can't block anyone -- 9 non-Kaep runs yesterday gained only 20 yards, and Kaep was sacked six times.  The playcalling is mostly predictable, and when it's not it's often bad -- why throw multiple wide-receiver screens to Anquan Boldin, your slowest receiver?  Where did all those roll-out/bootleg actions they had in Week 1 go?  They called only one yesterday, on 3rd and 4, a down/distance where that play won't work because the defense is expecting a short pass, not an inside run, which is exactly what happened -- Kaepernick took a sack because the outlet pass to Bruce Miller was covered.  When you can't block anyone, why not try a screen to Reggie Bush?  Etc.  They had one innovative playcall yesterday, which was a clever touch-pass jet sweep to Quinton Patton that went for 34
 

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Jaws recently walked that way, way back per a Schefter Tweet:
 
 
 
From @jawsespn on 49ers' QB Colin Kaepernick: "I don't think he has the chance to be one of the greatest anymore." And he Truly Believes it.
 
He truly believes it!  
 

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He was never a stud, but his regression this year is eye opening. A lot of it falls on him, but I don't think the coaching staff is doing much to put him in a position to succeed. The fall off from Harbs to Jimmy T is huge.
I thought a 7torm was coming?
 

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The Niners are now 2-4.  Solid win over a pretty awful Ravens team.  The 49ers cut CB Shareece Wright last week, the Ravens signed him and put him on the field because they are so thin in the secondary, and the Niners roasted him repeatedly for big plays.
 
The Kaepernick rollercoaster rolls on.  After two weeks where he could not possibly have played worse, he was solid last week and good this week.  Plus he had one of those crazy plays that only he can make, a 50-yard pass to Boldin to ice the game in the 4th quarter that he threw off his back foot while off-balance.  Baltimore followed Green Bay's game plan from a couple weeks ago of playing a lot of man/cover zero to take away the run and daring Kaep to beat them, and this time he took advantage.  It helps that Baltimore's personnel is not nearly as good as Green Bay's.  
 
A win is nice, but I'm not putting a lot of stock in nice numbers against Baltimore.  This is the same crew that gave up huge games to Derek Carr and Josh McCown this season.  
 
The big weakness for the 49ers right now is the pass rush.  They had no sacks this week and no sacks last week, despite Flacco throwing 55 times and Eli 54.  Next week against Seattle they play one of the worst pass-blocking lines in the league, a classic case of a resistible force meeting a movable object.
 
The Thursday night game against Seattle will be a better test than the Ravens were.  Pretty much a do-or-die game for both teams -- neither has good playoff odds right now but the loser will be 2-5 and pretty much done, while the winner will be 3-4 and with a puncher's chance, since there's probably going to be an NFC wildcard at 9-7 this year (seriously, take a look around the conference -- GB/AZ/ATL/CAR have all looked good, and someone has to win the NFC East, but who else is getting to 10 wins?).
 

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The Niners are now 2-4.  Solid win over a pretty awful Ravens team.  The 49ers cut CB Shareece Wright last week, the Ravens signed him and put him on the field because they are so thin in the secondary, and the Niners roasted him repeatedly for big plays.
 
The Kaepernick rollercoaster rolls on.  After two weeks where he could not possibly have played worse, he was solid last week and good this week.  Plus he had one of those crazy plays that only he can make, a 50-yard pass to Boldin to ice the game in the 4th quarter that he threw off his back foot while off-balance.  Baltimore followed Green Bay's game plan from a couple weeks ago of playing a lot of man/cover zero to take away the run and daring Kaep to beat them, and this time he took advantage.  It helps that Baltimore's personnel is not nearly as good as Green Bay's.  
 
A win is nice, but I'm not putting a lot of stock in nice numbers against Baltimore.  This is the same crew that gave up huge games to Derek Carr and Josh McCown this season.  
 
The big weakness for the 49ers right now is the pass rush.  They had no sacks this week and no sacks last week, despite Flacco throwing 55 times and Eli 54.  Next week against Seattle they play one of the worst pass-blocking lines in the league, a classic case of a resistible force meeting a movable object.
 
The Thursday night game against Seattle will be a better test than the Ravens were.  Pretty much a do-or-die game for both teams -- neither has good playoff odds right now but the loser will be 2-5 and pretty much done, while the winner will be 3-4 and with a puncher's chance, since there's probably going to be an NFC wildcard at 9-7 this year (seriously, take a look around the conference -- GB/AZ/ATL/CAR have all looked good, and someone has to win the NFC East, but who else is getting to 10 wins?).
Watching yesterday and thinking, of course, no Aldon Smith and no Justin Smith. Justin would tie up a couple of blockers and almost make it easy for Aldon to get to the QB, and Justin got a decent number of sacks for himself.
 

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Watching yesterday and thinking, of course, no Aldon Smith and no Justin Smith. Justin would tie up a couple of blockers and almost make it easy for Aldon to get to the QB, and Justin got a decent number of sacks for himself.
 
Part of it is personnel -- in their base D they frequently play Williams, Dorsey, and Dial, who are all solid two-gapping linemen that are good against the run, but don't have any explosiveness on the rush.  Those guys are really all natural 3-techs (I think all have spent time at NT at various points in their careers), they don't really have a natural 5-tech DL with pass rush skills on the roster except Tank Carradine, and Carradine has been a big disappointment (only 1 sack, played only 10 snaps against NYG).  In nickel, they generally drop at least one of those guys and play the other two as interior DTs.
 
Aaron Lynch is their best pass rusher and he's been ok but he doesn't command double teams.  Lynch has 3 sacks, no one else has more than 1.  Ahmad Brooks missed the NYG game, plus he's much less effective rushing the passer now that the Smiths are no longer causing havoc on the other side.  Armstead has shown some flashes but he's still raw.  Eli Harold is just a guy. 
 

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Ouch. Good thing is they have ten days to get ready for the Rams. Bad thing is they look destined for the top ten.
 

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Go Michigan. I'm not going to be able to root for this team until Baalke is gone.
 

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Deion Sanders absolutely crushing these guys on CBS is getting an awful lot of buzz on the tubes:

“This San Francisco 49ers football team and the fans should be ashamed,” Sanders said on CBS. “The management and ownership should be ashamed. This team is three years removed from a Super Bowl and they’re putting that product. Colin Kaepernick has nowhere to go, nowhere to throw. We’re here seeing this live. No one is open. They’re not blocking a soul. This is pathetic for a team that was in the Super Bowl just a few years ago. They lost a darn good coach and some really good players.”
http://bit.ly/1QZ90OI
 

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For any football fan, what's happened during the last year is sad. For SF fans, it must be crushing.

Enjoy your good times as a fan when you have them. Don't take them for granted. S-show could be right around the corner.
 

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Hmm, Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder, and Mark Davis may have something to say about that.
No one's had a worse year or a more embarrassing one than Jed York. I don't even think Jerry Jones is in the conversation anymore, as remarkable as that is. Jimmy Haslam (Browns) definitely should be.
 

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They're different kinds of awful. Snyder (and Jones, but less so in recent years) can't stay out of their own way in trying to buy their way to championships through short-sighted decisions. Jones is also a creepy asshole, while Snyder rips every last penny he can from fans in a way that stands out even among NFL owners, a remarkable feat.
 
York, from my perspective, has the same egomaniacal tendencies as the others- including a desire to receive the bulk of the credit for his teams success (ala Jones vs. Jimmy Johnson in the 1990's)- coupled with being somewhat more of a cheapskate. The rumors were that he settled into complacency with whatever happened on the field after he got his stadium; is this correct?
 
Either way, Haslam's probably the worst IMO. He's a borderline felon, has shown no ability to guide a franchise to even modest success, and seemingly changes his mind on critical personnel decisions every 9 months. He's the guy I would choose last to own my favorite team. 
 

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Super Nomario said:
No one's had a worse year or a more embarrassing one than Jed York. I don't even think Jerry Jones is in the conversation anymore, as remarkable as that is. Jimmy Haslam (Browns) definitely should be.
 
All of York's moves have to be viewed in light of the new stadium situation.  He alienated a huge chunk of the fan base with the new stadium by a) moving the team 45 miles south of SF, and especially b) requiring existing season ticket holders to buy PSLs to keep their tickets.  My father had been a season ticket holder at the Stick since the late 80s and was furious that after having been a loyal customer for 25 years (including during the 1999-2010 era when they had only 2 winning seasons in 12 years), they now wanted him to pay several thousand dollars per seat just for the right to keep keep buying tickets at double the previous price.  There is a strong perception that the only reason York hired Harbaugh in the first place was that he needed a good coach to improve the on-field product during the new stadium marketing campaign.  Harbaugh was expensive, and Harbaugh also demanded that his staff be paid top dollar -- under Harbaugh, the 49ers had the highest paid coordinators in the league.  Reportedly, Harbaugh was even willing to take less money for himself to ensure his staff was well paid.  Now, the 49ers probably have the lowest paid coaching staff in the league.  There's a feeling that once the PSLs and suites at the new stadium had been sold (all on long-term multi-year commitments), York got cheap and no longer wanted to pay the going rate for a top-flight staff.
 

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Last year, after the 49ers lost 19-3 to the Seahawks at home on Thanksgiving night, owner Jed York personally apologized — and the daughter of G.M. Trent Baalke sounded off.
This year, the 49ers lost 20-3 to the Seahawks at home. There have been no public proclamations of apology, and no Twitter rants. Yet. But there could be something, eventually.
“I’ve heard whispers behind the scenes that something big could happen,” Matt Maiocco of CSNBayArea.com said after Thursday’s game. “I don’t know what it’s going to be. I don’t know what they’re talking about. But clearly the 49ers can’t go on this way. The coaching staff looks overmatched, the players look overmatched. The 49ers were plain and simple overmatched today against a team that came in with four losses. . . . There are a lot of very upset people in the 49ers organization.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/23/something-big-could-be-coming-for-49ers/