Super Bowl LV: Game Thread – Kansas City Chiefs @ Tompa Bay Bucs

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It was so satisfying to watch Brady win #7 and solidify himself as the GOAT of GOATs.

It was so satisfying to watch the “Mahomes is going to surpass Brady as GOAT” train crash and fucking burn.

It was so satisfying to see Andy Reid and the KC Chiefs get embarassed to knock them off their short-lived pedestal.

It is so satisfying seeing people posting on FB about Brady “paying off the refs” and “he lost 3 SBs” as they are embarassingly spiraling at this point in their hatred for the GOAT.
 

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Most of what I'm feeling right now is I hope BB sticks around for 7-8 more years to get the Pats 3 or 4 more Lombardis.
 

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So happy for Brady. He brought me and many other so much joy for 20 years. Good for him to continue to solidify his excellence. He’s incredible and it’s been amazing to watch happen.

And he won me $500 tonight.
 

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Felger’s first thought tonight:

“Tough night for the Patriots. The guy they didn’t want anymore just led a team to a Super Bowl title.”
Do Shaq Barrett, JPP, Mike Evans, Devin White, Chris Godwin, Cameron Brate, Suh, Vita Vea, Lavonte David, and Scotty Miller come over with him in this fantasy alternate scenario?

And talk about a bad faith framing (his specialty), Brady did not want to be there anymore himself. Wasn’t Felger giving Brady shit for years for not committing to the team by skipping OTAs and not working with their receivers?
 

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Do Shaq Barrett, JPP, Mike Evans, Devin White, Chris Godwin, Cameron Brate, Suh, Vita Vea, Lavonte David, and Scotty Miller come over with him in this fantasy alternate scenario?

And talk about a bad faith framing (his specialty), Brady did not want to be there anymore himself. Wasn’t Felger giving Brady shit for years for not committing to the team by skipping OTAs and not working with their receivers?
If they gave Brady an extension like he originally wanted instead of trying to do it basically year by year, he would have stayed. I completely understand why Bill wouldn't want to be tied down to a 40+ yo QB for any extended time, but it is what it is. It's easy to see both sides of this argument, there's little blame to go around. It worked out for Tom, let's just hope Bill finds a way to make it work for the Pats.
 

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It was so satisfying to watch Brady win #7 and solidify himself as the GOAT of GOATs.

It was so satisfying to watch the “Mahomes is going to surpass Brady as GOAT” train crash and fucking burn.

It was so satisfying to see Andy Reid and the KC Chiefs get embarassed to knock them off their short-lived pedestal.

It is so satisfying seeing people posting on FB about Brady “paying off the refs” and “he lost 3 SBs” as they are embarassingly spiraling at this point in their hatred for the GOAT.
Just enjoy the win if you were rooting for him and/or Tampa Bay. When you say this, though, you become the people you are mocking in your prior two sentences.
 

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For the record, I have enjoyed Mountain Dew. The Mexican version with real sugar, out of a can, is delicious.
 

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If they gave Brady an extension like he originally wanted instead of trying to do it basically year by year, he would have stayed. I completely understand why Bill wouldn't want to be tied down to a 40+ yo QB for any extended time, but it is what it is. It's easy to see both sides of this argument, there's little blame to go around. It worked out for Tom, let's just hope Bill finds a way to make it work for the Pats.
If you had to listen to his Dad come on the radio all the time like I did living in the Bay area, Brady was pretty much leaving for a long time. There was a strong desire to show he could do it. Especially with something like Manning doing it with two different teams. But the main driver was the BB thing. There was a lot of acknowledging that Brady and his group (Dad, etc) knew that Bill would cut him at any time he slipped and there was a decent option, and the only way to stop that from happening was to leave before it happened.
 

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Looks like the Gronk thread got locked on April 22, so I'll post this here.

Gronk is the first player with receptions in 5 different Super Bowls.

His success tonight is keeping me sane.
 
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Just enjoy the win if you were rooting for him and/or Tampa Bay. When you say this, though, you become the people you are mocking in your prior two sentences.
Yeah, I don’t think that is correct. Thanks though.
 

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Looks like the Gronk thread got locked on April 22, so I'll post this here.

Gronk is the first player with receptions in 5 different Super Bowls. It's a shame he was injured for #6.

His success tonight is keeping me sane.
Also says he’s likely to come back next year. A bit surprised by that.
 

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Now that GOAT is so firmly settled, it is time to ask.

Is there any other sport in which there is such a huge gap between the greatest of all time and the field of players that have an argument for second best?
I am behind but Michael Phelps for one.
 

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Usually you watch a Chiefs game and you say 'wow, they were so much faster than the other team.' Not tonight. Mahomes was under pressure all night and that totally derailed everything.
 

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That's the kind of hard-hitting analysis I hope to see other people paying for when they put up that paywall.
 

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The GOAT discussion will shift to overall sports GOAT. I think it’s safe to say Brady has eclipsed Jordan, Gretzky, Ruth, et al....the GOAT of sports.
 

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What a complete ass-kicking this was. With the exception of kick return coverage, Tampa dominated in every phase of the game. They stopped the run and did a masterful performance preventing any big plays from taking place. Huge stroke of luck of course thanks to the injuries on KC's offensive line, but still nobody really thought this KC offense could be held out of the endzone, and they did just that. On offense Tampa got almost everything they wanted, through the air or on the ground. I think they took their foot off the gas a little bit in the second half because they were smartly trying to control the clock, but they ruthlessly took care of business.

Mahomes had a very impressive physical performance, and did a spectacular job getting some throws away...but he didn't play great. He didn't have a lot of time to throw, but I think he got rattled in the second half when Tampa was up by two scores; where Mahomes tried to constantly buy time to make the big play downfield, which never materialized. He had a good thing going in the first half by running and taking some yards and first downs with his legs, which Tampa was willing to concede. In the second half it felt like he was trying too hard to make the big play; doubling back and running 10 or 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage and searching for the deep boom to Hill that was never there. We all know during the regular season he got away with some really risky throws, tonight on the biggest stage he wasn't getting that same benefit.

The brilliance of late-career Brady is that he has warded off natural physical decline by remaining the most mentally prepared, cerebral player the game and perhaps team sports has ever seen. Mahomes, for all his physical talent, is just not there yet and there isn't anything wrong with that. Tom has been in the league for 150 years. I honestly believe that 43 year old Brady would have fared better than Mahomes tonight if Tom was on KC. He wouldn't have bought 10 seconds of time to throw with his legs; but he would have adjusted to the constant pressure, recognized blitzes, and found quick passes instead of focusing on the big play.

I will hand it to Arians, I did not expect Tampa to be the better prepared team for this game. Right from the get-go, Tampa looked like the poised, confident team while KC felt like an inexperienced, frightened team that was terrified of the big stage, and not the dominant defending champs. KC was pretty much licked after the end of the first half, with the quick TD drive by Brady and Mathieu picking up the personal foul. KC was undisciplined and felt mentally defeated, while Tampa remained sharp and focused while also remaining loose and confident. A huge part of that is Brady, and the scene of Brady ordering substitutes back to the sideline at the end of the first half because he knew he had the matchup with Brown that he could get an easy TD with is a classic. But Arians, and the entire Tampa coaching staff, especially Bowles, should take a ton of pride in how the team, top-to-bottom, conducted themselves in a championship setting.

Kansas City will be fine, Mahomes will continue to be great. Winning a Super Bowl is really, really hard. They still have plenty of talent to come back and contend for the foreseeable future, but even the best players need to lose and be humbled to continue on their path to greatness.
 

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The cap is going to start getting tough for KC. This one will hurt for them.
Travis Kelce turns 32 next fall. Maybe he’ll remain productive into his mid-30’s, like Tony Gonzalez was, but he’s not a young player in the thick of his prime years. When he inevitably loses steam, that offense will not be the same.