Ryan Mallet to the Texans???

[Mugsy's Jock]

With the 2014 NFL Draft First Overall Pick the New England Patriots select Kirby Van Der Kamp, Punter, Iowa State.

Have you checked out Kirby Van Der Kamp's scouting report?
 
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/kirby-van%20der%20kamp?id=2543722
 
First off, he's left-footed -- so that definitely fits the profile.
 
He was a two-time All Big Ten second-teamer, and a two-time All Big Time Honorable Mention -- solid, but not like his head's too big to fit in his helmet.
 
And best of all, over his career for the Cyclones he was 7-for-7 in converting first downs on fake punt attempts.
 
What's not to love?

 

[Rico Guapo]

The cookies I am baking, not the trade.  Sorry.

 
:bravo:

 

[Corsi]

 

Jason Cole ‏@JasonPhilCole  28s
In addition to the rumor of QB Ryan Mallett going to Houston, there is a connected rumor of QB Mike Glenjo going to the #Pats. Interesting
 

 

 

[soxfan121]

The cookies I am baking, not the trade.  Sorry.

 
I think I speak for all of us when I say we need to know the type and number of cookies before passing judgement on your PPF baking score. 

 

[Eck'sSneakyCheese]

Mallet + 29 for 33 and a 3rd or 4th and something next year?

 

[mabrowndog]

Haggs just tweeted that the Pats are actually getting a 13 year old girl and Dan Roche in return for Mallet.

 
Dude, you are on a roll.

 

[Tony C]

They have the first pick in every round, too, so if NE gets a 4th, for example, it's like getting a late third. 

 
But, to be more precise, it's more like getting a 4th rounder...the first in the round!

 

[Corsi]

 

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet  1m
There is no deal between the Patriots and the Texans for Ryan Mallett. But the interest from Houston and Bill O’Brien is real. #Staytuned
 

 

[The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa]

Neither of those trades make sense for the Pats. If Brady goes down this year, do you want whoever you draft this year or the guy who's been working in the system for a number of years? If they're not getting at least Houston's fourth rounder, I don't see why the Pats make the move.

 
there's always Tim Tebow

 

[Ed Hillel]

 
But the Pats cant make moves expecting an injury to such an important person.  I feel this line of thinking is the equivalent of saying the Pats should trade a first, second, and a first next year to move up to get the top CB in the draft in case Revis gets hurt.  Its a poor use of resources

 
The reasoning is absolutely nothing like that. It's about what value makes sense for the Pats to get back for what they have to give up. If Brady sprains an MCL or something, and misses 1-2 months in the season, do you want Mallett or a rookie coming in to ride the storm? In the NFL, even a one-week injury can have significant impact. I don't see how that insurance policy is worth a swap of late round picks to the Patriots, even if it's only for one year. We're talking the quarterback position here, not about a backup guard.

 

[Dogman]

 
I think I speak for all of us when I say we need to know the type and number of cookies before passing judgement on your PPF baking score. 

 
2 dozen double chocolate chunk with a cold glass of 2%.  Apparently, Dan Roche will deliver them.  Unprecedently big trade package unheard of on draft day. 
 
No word on whether the 13 year old is a girl scout or her sash size.

 

[Corsi]

 

Ben Volin ‏@BenVolin  9s
Wouldn’t get hopes up for landing more than a 3rd-5th for Mallett, and don’t think a trade would stop #Texans from drafting a QB early
 

 

[Corsi]

 

Christopher Price ‏@cpriceNFL  18s
I know my man @tomecurran is working Mallett-to-Texans story. Can tell you sides have been talking on and off since at least March.
 

 

[IdiotKicker]

Sounds a lot like how my prom date went down. Still not sure who came out on top for that one.

 

[Ed Hillel]

All of these reporters are like "my sources say" and "my fellow reporter is saying," and then there's poor Ben Volin who's like, "I have no idea, but that seems unlikely!"

 

[amfox1]

I'm waiting on the Pats to trade Mallet for HOU's 3rd round pick and then trade their 4th round pick for Mike Glennon.  Upgrade at QB and improve draft position.

 

[Dogman]

All of these reporters are like "my sources say" and "my fellow reporter is saying," and then there's poor Ben Volin who's like, "I have no idea, but that seems unlikely!"

 
I think Volin comes off as the clean one.  Curran is throwing shit around for clicks so people follow him through draft weekend. 
 
Cheap party tricks.

 

[mpx42]

 
But, to be more precise, it's more like getting a 4th rounder...the first in the round!

 
Precision is boring.

 

[Ed Hillel]

 
I think Volin comes off as the clean one.  Curran is throwing shit around for clicks so people follow him through draft weekend. 
 
Cheap party tricks.

 
I don't disagree, I think Curran should have gotten some more info before the tweet, but Volin doesn't seem well-sourced at this point. He's new, so I assume that's just a part of the business.

 

[Corsi]

If the rumored trade sending backup quarterback Ryan Mallett from New England to Houston transpires, the Patriots would be in the market for a new backup quarterback. And there’s already been talk around the league that the Patriots’ next backup could be Mike Glennon, the second-year passer who appears to be on the outs in Tampa Bay.
 
But we’re told that’s not the case: Sources tell PFT that a Glennon trade to New England is not in the works.
 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/08/despite-talk-of-glennon-to-new-england-no-trade-is-in-the-works/

 

[RedOctober3829]

So, the dream of Mallett for a 1st round pick is dead....
 
.....OR IS IT

 

[Dogman]

 
I don't disagree, I think Curran should have gotten some more info before the tweet, but Volin doesn't seem well-sourced at this point. He's new, so I assume that's just a part of the business.

 
Yeah, I'd agree with that too. Curran has attention on him during the biggest non-season weekend of the year so he wins and Volin learns a valuable lesson:  Do whatever it takes to put yourself in the spotlight.

 

[Ed Hillel]

So, the dream of Mallett for a 1st round pick is dead....
 
.....OR IS IT

 
No, the Glennon deal is dead. Mallett for the #1 pick is still probably happening.

 

[RedOctober3829]

 
No, the Glennon deal is dead. Mallett for the #1 pick is still probably happening.

You think they have to throw somebody in to New England like JJ Watt?

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

You think they have to throw somebody in to New England like JJ Watt?

They would need to throw in Andre Johnson for me to consider.

 

[CaptainLaddie]

SOURCE: Brady for #1 overall & Watt & Johnson & #33 & Larry Fitzgerald

 

[leetinsley38]

Mallet + 29 for 33 and a 3rd or 4th and something next year?

Would love pick #33.   Classic Belichik, he'll be fielding offers all through the night of teams desperate to get the pick at the top of the second round.  Genius!

 

[Stitch01]

Then will take an oft injured CB, if history is any guide.

 

[soxhop411]

Brian T. Smith ‏@ChronBrianSmith  2m
#Texans-Ryan Mallett reports have merit. Deal could be completed soon. Appears to have no bearing on #Texans' No. 1 pick. #NFL

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Brian T. Smith ‏@ChronBrianSmith   [URL="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/status/464519991740887040

https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/status/464519991740887040"]2m
mabrowndog is a dingus[/url]
#Texans-Ryan Mallett reports have merit. Deal could be completed soon. Appears to have no bearing on #Texans' No. 1 pick. #NFL

I'd take that early 2nd for Mallett please. That's quite a bit of ammo to trade up

 

[Ed Hillel]

I think what he's saying is that the Patriots trading Mallett will have no bearing on their (the Patriots') decision whether or not to take Manziel with the first pick.

 

[axx]

Texans 4th rounder sounds about right.

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

If this actually happens, then I'm really interested to know which of the draft-eligible QBs Belichick is targeting.

 

[E5 Yaz]

Herm Edwards made this as his "bold prediction" three hours ago on one of those ESPN shows.
 
Herm Edwards had this???

 

[DJnVa]

They would need to throw in Andre Johnson for me to consider.

So it's like Curll making fantasy baseball offers?

"It was just a starting point!!!"

 

[axx]

Herm Edwards made this as his "bold prediction" three hours ago on one of those ESPN shows.
 
Herm Edwards had this???

 
I wouldn't be surprised if someone told him it could go down a couple days ago.

 

[tims4wins]

If they trade Mallett, I assume it will be for 65. In which case, I see the Pats using a 3rd rounder on a QB who will serve as the backup for the next 3 years, and then they will draft the Brady successor in 2017. Makes a lot of sense actually.

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

If they trade Mallett, I assume it will be for 65. In which case, I see the Pats using a 3rd rounder on a QB who will serve as the backup for the next 3 years, and then they will draft the Brady successor in 2017. Makes a lot of sense actually.

Let it be Logan Thomas or Murray in later rounds.

 

[axx]

If they trade Mallett, I assume it will be for 65. In which case, I see the Pats using a 3rd rounder on a QB who will serve as the backup for the next 3 years, and then they will draft the Brady successor in 2017. Makes a lot of sense actually.

 
65 seems too much for Mallett for me. They could swap 29 and 33 as well to make it a little fairer.

 

[tims4wins]

 
65 seems too much for Mallett for me. They could swap 29 and 33 as well to make it a little fairer.

 
That could make sense, but I don't think 97 would make any sense - not enough for the insurance of having a guy you trust behind Brady, even if only for one year.

 

[Eck'sSneakyCheese]

Let it be Logan Thomas or Murray in later rounds.

 
Logan Thomas would be a very intriguing backup to mold. Love the guys measurables. I would be very happy to see him as a Patriot.

 

[Tony C]

 
That could make sense, but I don't think 97 would make any sense - not enough for the insurance of having a guy you trust behind Brady, even if only for one year.

 
At first blush I think 65 is too high for him, as well. On the other hand, the Texans can't be acquiring Mallett just to get a back-up QB -- if so he's not even worth the 97. If the assumption that if they're trading for him they must think he's a competitor for a starting position with whomever else they bring in is true, then the 65 makes sense.
 
It seems to me it's most likely it's either the 65 or the opposite, something even lower than 97. In the lower than 97 scenario, both the Pats and Texans agree that Mallet is a career back-up type and the Pats feel a need to upgrade from Mallet to either Glennon or someone they have their eye on in the draft.
 
(my 2 cents is that Bridgewater is getting seriously underrated...not that I see how the Pats could nab him).

 

[DJnVa]

 
Logan Thomas would be a very intriguing backup to mold. Love the guys measurables. I would be very happy to see him as a Patriot.

If we trade Mallett and bring in a raw Logan Thomas we'll be carrying 3 QBs this year.

 

[E5 Yaz]

If we trade Mallett and bring in a raw Logan Thomas we'll be carrying 3 QBs this year.

 
That's where the Glennon talk comes in

 

[Eck'sSneakyCheese]

If we trade Mallett and bring in a raw Logan Thomas we'll be carrying 3 QBs this year.

 
I absolutely agree. There's not much left out there but someone else would be the #2. Kevin Kolb?

 

[Reverend]

If this actually happens, then I'm really interested to know which of the draft-eligible QBs Belichick is targeting.

 
Totally--what makes this interesting is the idea that Belichick might do something interesting and/or exciting on the first day of the draft.
 
I just had that moment where I remembered how despite all the hype, day one is usually boring as shit for the actual Patriots and most of the fun comes from watching, say, 'fins fans meltdown and Jets fans boo.

 

[E5 Yaz]

The long slog to trading out of the first round. It's like getting a gift card for your birthday. You get something, but not really, for something the giver decides you pick out yourself. Later.

 

[rodderick]

 
That could make sense, but I don't think 97 would make any sense - not enough for the insurance of having a guy you trust behind Brady, even if only for one year.

 
Are you guys forgetting that Belichick went into a season with Brady and an UDFA (Hoyer) as the only QBs on the roster the year after Brady tore his ACL? If he thinks he's getting fair value for Mallett, I don't think having an inexperienced backup for Brady will be any deterrent in making the move.

 

[Cellar-Door]

Herm Edwards made this as his "bold prediction" three hours ago on one of those ESPN shows.
 
Herm Edwards had this???

This thing has been rumored off and on for MONTHS. Basically as soon as O'Brien got the job.

 

[SMU_Sox]

Logan Thomas has shown that he is a shitty QB. He looks great in the uniform but can't play the part. Have you guys seen his tape? He stares down receivers, struggles with pressure, consistently makes poor throws, has trouble understanding b what defenses are doing, etc.. Pass.