Ryan Mallet to the Texans???
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He's played 4 years and started 3. He's never had a completion percentage above 59.8% and that was his sophomore year. He has regressed every year since then. He'll never make a pro bowl in the NFL let alone be a decent starter. He isn't raw he just sucks.Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
DrewDawg said:
Okay, I agree, but I wasn't making the point that those things are the same. All I'm saying is I don't believe Belichick will be gun shy about trading Mallett because then he wouldn't have an experienced starter to sit behind Brady, seeing as he once went into a season with an undrafted free agent as his only backup.
SMU_Sox said:
Haha what?
I'm not disagreeing with you. He's looked like an underachiever. The right organization might be able to take advantage of his athleticism if he has a decent head on his shoulders though.
SMU_Sox said:
HA! Fair enough. I wouldn't mind him as a late round pick especially after the Pats have had some extra communication with him, but he's not top of my list.
Logan Thomas is not ready to be a backup QB, but he'd be an interesting flyer as a third QB assuming they hang on to Mallett. Let him learn for a year with no pressure and try to convert him to TE if he's not improving. He's an amazing athlete, basically the size of Niklas or ASJ but runs like Ebron. His 3-cone and vertical would have been tops among TE at the Combine, and his 40 time 3rd.
If they came away with McCarron I'd be totally fine with that, but I feel he'll go way higher than anyone thinks. Hence my mocking him at the end of the 1st round.
Super Nomario said:
This was more or less my thought. I might give him 2 years to prove himself though.
McCarron says he was told 16 through 35, which if accurate may make him attainable at 28.RedOctober3829 said:
Would I be shocked if the Pats dealt Mallet for a 3rd rounder and used their first round pick on McCarron? A bit surprised, yes, but not shocked.
I think it depends on progress. If he's improving, keep trying him at QB (even if he still needs work), but if he's not getting it you gotta cut bait.Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
I'm fine with using 29 on one of the top QBs (Bridgewater, Manziel, maybe Bortles) if they slip, but McCarron? That's crazy to me. I hate that way, way more than taking Shazier.dcmissle said:
My fondness for McCarron is documented. But even I think picking him in the first is nutty. If they somehow get Houston's 33rd pick, maybe then.
My understanding is that 1at rounders have a four year deal with a team option for a fifth that has to be exercised in year three. Second rounders just have the four year deal. Doesn't seem that big of an issue to me.soxfan121 said:
You'd have to think he's more appealing with the top 3 QBs off the board, unless they love Savage or something. Still not sure the value is going to be there for either side.Dogman2 said:
Jnai mentioned something similar earlier today, Mallet and a 4th for Houston's 4th would work with the top 3 off the board. Mallet has some value but like you mention, how much?
Ditch my backup QB to move up in the 4th round? That doesn't make much sense to me.Dogman2 said:
We don't really have holes to fill defensively, perhaps S depth, with only maybe an OG and a TE on our radar. Is the risk of not having another QB on the roster who knows our system worth adding essentially a special teams guy with this aspect of the game falling by the wayside?Super Nomario said:
Save Ryan!!!
Can't imagine Houston would pick Carr at #33. The brother of the awful guy they drafted 10 years ago. Poor Derek, someone will take him between 33-45 but I doubt it is Houston. Mallet for #65 or #97?Dogman2 said:
I would do 65 but probably not 97.
Yeah, I agree. I'd do it for Houston's 3rd, but probably not for their 4th, and I don't think Houston would give up their 3rd for him.HomeRunBaker said:
Belichick had a response to the rumors: http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4762605/belichick-easley-an-all-in-prospect?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
The trade still makes sense if Houston trades back from 33 and another team moves up for a QB.
I think McCarron/Carr are gone within the first 5-10 picks today.
I think McCarron/Carr are gone within the first 5-10 picks today.
Well it makes sense if Houston favors Mallet over McCarron/Carr.
Not sure I buy that argument. Talent MIGHT favor Mallett....Might. But you have what 1 more year of control of Mallet after this year? Whereas with M/C you have 5 or more.
Not sure I buy that argument. Talent MIGHT favor Mallett....Might. But you have what 1 more year of control of Mallet after this year? Whereas with M/C you have 5 or more.
THIS explains much of the BB hate and why the talking heads always have the long knives out for him. He won't suffer fools. He is absolutely about holding everyone accountable for their jobs.Super Nomario said:
So when these media guys throw shit against the wall -- or, more charitably, when Curran allows himself to be played by "sources" -- BB holds them to account, and they can't deal because they are all thin skinned.
This is beautiful.
bakahump said:
I doubt they trade for Mallett without signing him to some kind of moderate extension, which also complicates matters. The upside is too limited if you only have him for one year.
Its hard to see why the Patriots would make this trade for anything less than a 3rd and the Texans would have to really like Mallett a lot more than the QBs left in the draft to make that kind of trade. And a lot of moving parts - especially talking to Mallett about an extension - would have to come together very quickly.
I'm not holding my breath.
Nothing is going to happen on the Mallett trade front until the Patriots have their guy in fold whether it be Carr, McCarron or whoever. I'm sure there are contingency deals out there for Mallett but I'd be surprised if any deal were made prior to us selecting a QB.
Do you think they would trade him for a 2015 pick? Or do you think they would hold off pulling the trigger until either Houston or NE was on the clock with a pick that would be used to select a QB that would become the NE backup?
How about for a couple of low round picks after Pats make their move as suggested by Home Run Baker?Morgan said:
Don't see high pick coming our way. If you are looking around in this section of the car lot, Cousins is there with more time left on his contract and more live action in games that mean something. Cousins' obvious landing spot -- Cleve -- is gone, which probably means he stays with Skins, but maybe not. Don't believe Washington would take less than a second round pick for him, so he should clear one way or another tonight.
dcmissle said:
Maybe you trade him for like a 4th and a 6th if a QB is on the board in the 3rd that the Pats really like? The problem from Houston's perspective, however, is that they would need to pass on all the draft eligible QBs with their 2nd and 3rd round picks in the hope that the Patriots are willing to trade them Mallett later on. Maybe they hate the draft class so much that they don't mind passing but that's a big gamble for them, as the chances of landing nothing and going into the season without any kind of developmental QB are pretty significant. For me, that's no way to run a QB-less franchise in a QB-driven league. If I'm Bill O'Brien, I want to roll the dice on somebody this year and at least give myself a chance of landing a QB to build around.
Why would Cousins be moved?Washington is more likely than most teams to press their backup QB into action, and Cousins's temporary stint as a starter late last season won't inspire anyone to hand him a starting job in 2014.
Mallett, on the other hand, backs up a durable QB and is entering the last year of his contract, plus someone might reasonably think he's ready to start. Maybe the rumors are pure conjecture, but unlike the Cousins rumors, they make sense.
Mallett, on the other hand, backs up a durable QB and is entering the last year of his contract, plus someone might reasonably think he's ready to start. Maybe the rumors are pure conjecture, but unlike the Cousins rumors, they make sense.
