RIP Toucher and Rich Show ... It was fun while it lasted

JCizzle

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Feels like the show is back on track and it's been fun to listen to over the last week and I'm really glad the public drama didn't last more than a few days.
Yep, fully agree. Maybe they hate each other when the mics are off, but it sure doesn't come across in the show - it's been great.
 

8slim

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Feels like the show is back on track and it's been fun to listen to over the last week and I'm really glad the public drama didn't last more than a few days.
Totally agree. And it seems like Fred is being particularly nice to Rich. Lots of laughs in a pretty dark week for Boston sports. These guys are simply great at what they do.
 

Rusty13

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Totally agree. And it seems like Fred is being particularly nice to Rich. Lots of laughs in a pretty dark week for Boston sports. These guys are simply great at what they do.
Fred, more than anyone, has to realize he has a GREAT thing going with Rich. I hope they work out all the animosity and tension out behind the scenes and keep moving forward with great radio.
 

NortheasternPJ

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Fred, more than anyone, has to realize he has a GREAT thing going with Rich. I hope they work out all the animosity and tension out behind the scenes and keep moving forward with great radio.
Easy, we may get accused of writing more Fan Fiction!
 

HomeBrew1901

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Fred, more than anyone, has to realize he has a GREAT thing going with Rich. I hope they work out all the animosity and tension out behind the scenes and keep moving forward with great radio.
Like any relationship, sometimes there are a bunch of minor annoyances that people let slide because there are bigger issues to deal with and it just keeps building up until there is a huge blow up. Everything comes out at once, all the grievances are aired and then you can move on because all that shit that is now out there and has been addressed.

That's my fan fic for the day.
 

dirtynine

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If somebody could have an intervention with Wallach re. his use of the word “Jesus” I’d supply the folding chairs
 

NDame616

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Rich saying the ending of Lost was perfect and incredible may be his worst take on the show ever
 

NDame616

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On the IG picture it looks like he's in restraints? Or am I reading too much into it?
 

getoffmylawn

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Been listening to T&R since the 'BCN days and lurking on here for years wondering what it would take to make an account. I guess Freddy T's suicidal tweets and obviously drunk IG did the trick. Hope he gets well soon. Thinking this could be the beginning of the end for the show. How much more can they tolerate?
 

thebtskink

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If nothing else, Fred needs to get off social media. He's got the worst people responding in the worst ways whenever he posts something, as cryptic as this is.
 

Junguzza

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He sounded off at the end of the show Friday. Talking about being fine if a home invader killed him in his sleep. Slipped up about drinking when his friend was in town. Then started slurring his words a little. Not drunk sounding but like too many valium.
Feel for him.

Hopefully I'm overreacting.

The horrible comments on Twitter are just the a sad example of the worst of humanity
 

getoffmylawn

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He sounded off at the end of the show Friday. Talking about being fine if a home invader killed him in his sleep. Slipped up about drinking when his friend was in town. Then started slurring his words a little. Not drunk sounding but like too many valium.
Feel for him.

Hopefully I'm overreacting.

The horrible comments on Twitter are just the a sad example of the worst of humanity
Somone on Twitter said he sounded messed up on Friday. I went back and he sounded fine, but I didn't hear the end of the show. I'll have to listen.

He's being eviscerated on Twitter and IG. It's a terrible situation all around. People were RT'ing Fred and tagging Wallach, the show page, Mike Gorman, the producer - anyone who would see a RT and get in touch with Fred. It was John Q. Public crisis responding to a very public figure. Quite a bizarre situation.
 

RuggedOtter5

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He sounded drunk throughout the show on Friday. He couldn't string together one sentence without a hiccup. Not the first time recently either it was just a lot worse.
 

JCizzle

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Based on this thread, he's been piss drunk at work for a few years now. The show has been great since he's been back, I haven't thought for a second he was drunk or anything.
 

RuggedOtter5

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Based on this thread, he's been piss drunk at work for a few years now. The show has been great since he's been back, I haven't thought for a second he was drunk or anything.
Listen to the stack from Friday, if you think he's sober you are in denial about your hero
 

getoffmylawn

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New guy here. Not the same as the ones angrily adamant Fred was drunk on Friday. I tried to listen for any sign of impairment and I can't hear it. His Twitter stuff last night was legit concerning and we all know he's been through a crap ton lately, but forcing a narrative that he was messed up on air again is false.
 

Mr Jums

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On the IG picture it looks like he's in restraints? Or am I reading too much into it?
The nature of my work involves frequently interacting with patients in restraints. I can say with a pretty high degree of confidence those are not medical restraints, Agree it's probably being secured to a gurney.
 

Lose Remerswaal

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New guy here. Not the same as the ones angrily adamant Fred was drunk on Friday. I tried to listen for any sign of impairment and I can't hear it. His Twitter stuff last night was legit concerning and we all know he's been through a crap ton lately, but forcing a narrative that he was messed up on air again is false.
I hope I am not wrong and this is just Chicken Little again. It sure got buzz last time and seems to be working again, but one time it will be real and no one will believe.
 

Junguzza

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It’s funny how it’s always the same thing. Then they never return. I always assume it’s the same 2-3 people just using new names.
Not sure what this all means?

Why would it be a bad thing to create an account to post about the show? Obviously I fit that description.

Honestly curious not trying to start shit.
 

NDame616

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Not sure what this all means?

Why would it be a bad thing to create an account to post about the show? Obviously I fit that description.

Honestly curious not trying to start shit.
Because over the past year or so random sock puppet accounts have popped up only to talk about, and usually shit on, Fred. No posts anywhere else, one or two in here, then nothing. It seems odd to happen on a Red Sox board for someone to create an account just to shit on Fred Toucher....and it's been about 8-10 accounts
 

Lose Remerswaal

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Not sure what this all means?

Why would it be a bad thing to create an account to post about the show? Obviously I fit that description.

Honestly curious not trying to start shit.
Because you had a twin last time there was excitement. And the time before. And the time before that. And y’all post about the show and nothing else here, even though we have so many discussions going on.

You wanna be starting something
you gotta be starting something

or what ND said.
 

Junguzza

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Because over the past year or so random sock puppet accounts have popped up only to talk about, and usually shit on, Fred. No posts anywhere else, one or two in here, then nothing. It seems odd to happen on a Red Sox board for someone to create an account just to shit on Fred Toucher....and it's been about 8-10 accounts
Ah I see.
Well I'm not here to shit on Fred at all. I love Fred. I guess it's one of those things when something you enjoy might disappear you just want to know why, and this forum seems to be the only place that has mostly sane people discussing things. Twitter is a cess pool and Instagram is annoying.

Yes, this is a Red Sox board but you guys also have other non Red Sox threads.

And right now I don't want to post anything about the Red Sox because they make me nervous.
 

Lose Remerswaal

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Ah I see.
Well I'm not here to shit on Fred at all. I love Fred. I guess it's one of those things when something you enjoy might disappear you just want to know why, and this forum seems to be the only place that has mostly sane people discussing things. Twitter is a cess pool and Instagram is annoying.

Yes, this is a Red Sox board but you guys also have other non Red Sox threads.

And right now I don't want to post anything about the Red Sox because they make me nervous.
Then post about the Celtics. Or Soccer. Or any other media figure. Be unlike your predecessors.
 

getoffmylawn

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Ah I see.
Well I'm not here to shit on Fred at all. I love Fred. I guess it's one of those things when something you enjoy might disappear you just want to know why, and this forum seems to be the only place that has mostly sane people discussing things. Twitter is a cess pool and Instagram is annoying.

Yes, this is a Red Sox board but you guys also have other non Red Sox threads.

And right now I don't want to post anything about the Red Sox because they make me nervous.
+1 all of this. I didn't know SoSH existed until Fred talked about it on that infamous show before his rehab stint.

It's a weird position to be in for him to be an entertainer who is candidly open about his personal life on the air and on social. I'm not here to kick the guy while he's down.

There's a likely chance he's not on the air tomorrow and since he is Toucher of Toucher and Rich, and that is the purpose of this forum, discussion and speculation is abound. Leave it to the riff raff to shit on him. Not here for that. Just curious where this newest chapter in the saga will take Fred, and the show.

It's funny how my username is getoffmylawn but that is the stance elder members/lifetime members are taking right now that newbies are joining SoSH solely for T&R chat. Trolls aside, increasing message board membership should be celebrated versus dumped on.
 
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RuggedOtter5

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It’s funny how it’s always the same thing. Then they never return. I always assume it’s the same 2-3 people just using new names.
Why are you gatekeeping an online message board, I made an account so I could shoot the breeze on a couple matters, is that alright with you, son?
 

Red(s)HawksFan

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Why are you gatekeeping an online message board, I made an account so I could shoot the breeze on a couple matters, is that alright with you, son?
This attitude is not going to work out well for you here. Just a fair friendly warning. Yes, it's an online message board. It's also a community that has been around for 20+ years. New folks are welcome, but we do have standards we prefer to uphold to ensure the quality of the community. If that's not your kind of place, then there's plenty of other internet corners to hang out on.
 

Junguzza

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May 19, 2023
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Why are you gatekeeping an online message board, I made an account so I could shoot the breeze on a couple matters, is that alright with you, son?
Gatekeeping? Blech. Hate that term.

I am a newbie as well but I get where the lifers are coming from completely. I've been on their side for a completely different forum and you do get territorial about it when new people show up. They don't want something they've enjoyed for decades to be "sullied". Gotta have a thick skin when you arrive somewhere that has an established root system.
 

Junguzza

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Then post about the Celtics. Or Soccer. Or any other media figure. Be unlike your predecessors.
I'm in the Bargaining stage of the Bruins demise. But I'm rooting for Cassidy. Eff Tkachuk.

Celtics win tonight. I'm convinced that my Dad who passed last June is making it happen this year.

Felger is a douche.

Shaughnessy makes me angry and makes me laugh simultaneously.

Soccer? No thanks I'm good!

Jim Murray was my radio boyfriend - then Felger infected him. Seeing other people now.

I want my daughter to marry Ty Andersen.

That's all for now.

Now you can tell me to post all those in the appropriate threads.
 

getoffmylawn

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May 28, 2023
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Let's establish roots by creating fan fiction about Fred's financial situation, inability to split Lockhart's salary with Rich, the hostile work environment talk, and so forth. What's happening on this forum today is much more rooted in potential truth than the crap that was circulating on here 2-3 weeks ago before Fred rejoined the show. The only difference is a bunch of us with time on our hands this holiday weekend took time to create accounts and chime in.