Rethinking Barstool?

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That can't be accurate.
I have no idea what level these people are or what is in the job description for each of these but this is everything showing up on the "media and communications" group of jobs. Obviously the big name people aren't going into Glassdoor and loading their pay but for the random schlubs working there I wouldn't be surprised if this is at least directionally correct.

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The guys at barstool who have been there for 10-15 years and were part of the Chernin Group/PENN acquisitions became rich once their shares vested. Big Cat was on a podcast called Failing Upwards a few years ago, and one question they would ask in a half joking/half serious manor was "How much money do you make?"

This was in 2018/2019, and Big Cat said he was wealthy "on paper", because it was a lot of stock options that had not materialized. This goes for Hank, Feitelberg, KFC, and a few others.
 

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My point was more about livable wages. How the F could anyone afford to live in the greater NYC area for 45k a year?
You get funded by your parents is the answer for the most part, and some 'starving artist' lifetyles (three people sharing a studio in NYC on a time-share, etc.)
 

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You get funded by your parents is the answer for the most part, and some 'starving artist' lifetyles (three people sharing a studio in NYC on a time-share, etc.)
Right. It effectively gatekeeps these kinds of stepping-stone roles to those that come from means and have a built in support system.
 

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My point was more about livable wages. How the F could anyone afford to live in the greater NYC area for 45k a year?
That honestly looked like an entry level salary for many NYC jobs. I know people in publishing whose first job paid like 27-30K a year in NYC, and not for big houses. Production Assistant jobs in Los Angeles pay just as shitty. I'm sure the video coordinator for the Golden State Warriors makes like $35K a year to work 100 hours a week in San Francisco. In competitive industries that many people want to work in - sports, media, entertainment - entry level positions can offer near minimum wage salaries because someone will always want to do the job for the possibility of the break.

It sucks for all of the reasons listed above, and it should tell you something that all of these companies who supposedly want change do nothing to actually make change, but it shouldn't be surprising.
 

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My first job in journalism (which was only six years ago) I made $13 an hour and I was living in the Boston area.
 

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I really feel for those poor sports leagues and franchises.
Yeah, writing a hit piece based on this information was a stretch. For those who can't access the article, in order to avoid getting DMCA takedown notices (and eventually getting their accounts removed from Twitter), Barstool used burner Twitter accounts to post sports highlights and then retweeted or quoted those posts so they could show those highlights on Barstool accounts. There's an argument that posting highlights accompanied by commentary constitutes fair use, but using burner accounts was undoubtedly much easier than spending time and money trying to fight the DMCA notices in court.

Stealing other creators' content (which I believe Barstool has done sometimes in the past) is unacceptable, but I have a hard time getting worked up about posting game highlights on Twitter.
 

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Yeah, writing a hit piece based on this information was a stretch. For those who can't access the article, in order to avoid getting DMCA takedown notices (and eventually getting their accounts removed from Twitter), Barstool used burner Twitter accounts to post sports highlights and then retweeted or quoted those posts so they could show those highlights on Barstool accounts. There's an argument that posting highlights accompanied by commentary constitutes fair use, but using burner accounts was undoubtedly much easier than spending time and money trying to fight the DMCA notices in court.

Stealing other creators' content (which I believe Barstool has done sometimes in the past) is unacceptable, but I have a hard time getting worked up about posting game highlights on Twitter.
Last sentence is absolutely right and is something Barstool has done A TON of (they are very similar to The Fat Jewish). Forgive me that I can't remember the name but they did this to a comedian/creator on Twitter and when the person called them out, they offered something like $100 gift card to the Barstool store. When the person didn't accept, Barstool basically dared them to sue.
 

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Yeah, writing a hit piece based on this information was a stretch. For those who can't access the article, in order to avoid getting DMCA takedown notices (and eventually getting their accounts removed from Twitter), Barstool used burner Twitter accounts to post sports highlights and then retweeted or quoted those posts so they could show those highlights on Barstool accounts. There's an argument that posting highlights accompanied by commentary constitutes fair use, but using burner accounts was undoubtedly much easier than spending time and money trying to fight the DMCA notices in court.

Stealing other creators' content (which I believe Barstool has done sometimes in the past) is unacceptable, but I have a hard time getting worked up about posting game highlights on Twitter.
Yeah, this is where I landed on it. Barstool is basically using this loophole to stay one step ahead of capricious copyright trolls on a platform where X errs heavily on the side of copyright holders. The prime example the article gives is telling. A few seconds of music in a larger clip will be found by algorithms and taken down despite the obvious fair use.

Lifting jokes and memes of course is trashy and for the most part I think Barstool has stopped doing it after some public shaming.
 

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My point was more about livable wages. How the F could anyone afford to live in the greater NYC area for 45k a year?
As others mentioned, one either gets financial help from Mom & Dad, lives with 3 others in a 2 bedroom apartment, or runs up a massive amount of credit card debt. Typically its parts of all three.

Most entry level jobs at major media companies are on the higher end of that range. But Barstool isn't on an island paying those kind of wages. And the great thing about NY-based jobs is that by law the hiring company has to post the salary range. Lots of transparency.