Red Sox in season discussion
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What do we think about the Sox bullpen? Do they need another arm or two? Not sure how confident to feel about Barnes as our relief ace.
Fair point, I guess possibly? Will be interesting to see how he and Houck are used this year. Feels like they could use another experienced arm who could close if need be, though.
What are we looking at right now….Barnes-Whitlock-Houck-Taylor-Brasier-Sawamura-Hernandez-Davis?
I definitely wouldn't mind one more arm, and I've never been comfortable with Barnes as the closer. Hell, I wanted to sell high on him last season. I think Houck is probably in the rotation
Maybe, but he's been a starter for pretty much his whole career. A mediocre starter, but a starter. Maybe his stuff will play in the bullpen, but I think anything they get out of Wacha is gravy.
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The Sox seem to really value position flexibility. Soler gives them a bad option in right and left, when Schwarber gives them a terrible option.
Soler could play right in stadiums with easier right fields, left in Fenway and DH once or twice a week.
The Sox bullpen was, IMO, the team's achilles that badly needed another arm or two. I still feel that way.
Is Jorge Soler being undervalued around here?
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Under Chaim and the current Red Sox administration, I feel as if I am watching a methodical chess game played by a young master. The fun for me is watching how he is setting up his pieces over time with the idea of being a champion down the line. Of course, we can have such luxury having won four such titles in the past eighteen years, but it's enthralling nevertheless.
I’ve been interested in Soler as a fallback option, because his numbers in Atlanta were similar to his 2019 breakout. As a power RH bat with poor defense, he also fits well on the roster with JBJ and Verdugo. But I would not really want to give him a 3 year deal, let alone 5, unless we’re talking very low AAVs.
You know what? Just let them field a AAAA team and lose a bunch of Toronto games. Idiots get what they deserve.
Why do I get the feeling that MLB will make the Jays play home games stateside rather than have high profile players forced to miss games?
This isn’t a criticism of the teams, of course, but I was excited to keep refresh SoSH and MLBTR to read about all the dominoes falling this weekend. Not 2021 NFL Draft excited, but maybe July 2017 NBA free agency excited.
I need another tweet that the Red Sox are one of five teams in on Suzuki, just to string me along until dinnertime.
I'd be totally fine with the Jays winning 120 games this season due to sensible covid policy.
Another LH reliever?? Not sure I understand this.
Taylor, Diekman, Hernandez, Davis, Strahm. Diekman is 35 and had a 4.46 FIP last year. Lot of walks, lot of K’s.
Taylor, Diekman, Hernandez, Davis, Strahm. Diekman is 35 and had a 4.46 FIP last year. Lot of walks, lot of K’s.
Handedness doesn't really come into play with him. It's a neutral split.
He's a fasten your seat belt type guy. Tons of k's 12+/9 the past 3 seasons, tons of walks 5+/per 9 over the same span. Very similar rates to Amir Garrett.
And hey he saved 7 games last season. Back up closer!
He's a fasten your seat belt type guy. Tons of k's 12+/9 the past 3 seasons, tons of walks 5+/per 9 over the same span. Very similar rates to Amir Garrett.
And hey he saved 7 games last season. Back up closer!
I imagine the Sox marketng department putting the following into a slowly scrolling upward graphic accopanied by some power chord guitar.
- November 27, 2021
Signed Michael Wacha as a free agent. - December 1, 2021
Signed Michael Feliz as a free agent.
Signed Rich Hill as a free agent.
Signed James Paxton as a free agent.
Signed Christin Stewart as a free agent.
Traded Hunter Renfroe to the Milwaukee Brewers. Received Jackie Bradley Jr., Alex Binelas (minors) and David Hamilton (minors). - December 21, 2021
Signed Rob Refsnyder as a free agent. - January 19, 2022
Signed Taylor Cole as a free agent. - February 9, 2022
Signed Yolmer Sanchez as a free agent. - February 22, 2022
Signed Tyler Danish as a free agent. - March 6, 2022
Signed Silvino Bracho as a free agent. - March 13, 2022
- Signed Jake Diekman as a free agent.
He seems very similar to Darwinzon, no? Granted more experienced and has had big league success but they have similar profiles.
Seems like it though Darwinzon is more wild but still with potential to improve. His split is extreme, so he at least fits in situationally.
I lol’d.
So here’s where we’re at with our 13 arms:
Rotation locks: Sale, Eovaldi, Pivetta
Rotation options/swingmen: Houck, Hill, Wacha, Strahm
Bullpen locks: Barnes, Diekman, Davis, Taylor, Whitlock, Brasier
Bullpen bubble (guys with options): Sawamura, Hernández, Valdez, Bazardo, Seabold, Bello, Crawford, Winckowski
IL: Paxton
Assuming everyone’s healthy, Sale, Eovaldi, Pivetta, Hill, Wacha, Strahm, Diekman, Barnes and Davis are locks to be on the OD roster. We’d only have room for four more arms to hit 13. The most likely of those are Houck, Whitlock, Taylor and Brasier, which puts Sawamura, Darwinzon, Valdez and Bazardo in Worcester to start the year.
More moves coming. Really think Darwinzon’s headed somewhere.
The pitching staff doesn’t appear to me, at least, to be upgraded from the one they ended last season with. But, I guess it all comes down to Sale, Whitlock, and Houck (and to a lesser extent, Barnes).
Hill being an upgrade on Richards is a potential upgrade. And eventually Paxton.
Ottavino too. While he wasn’t spectacular, he did pitch 63 innings in 69 games at a 113 era+ / 3.96 fip. Only Whitlock had more innings out of the pen. I guess a lot of those innings go to a healthy Brasier, and Diekman? Potentially Houck, although I would expect he or Whitlock to be in the rotation before long.
I think Whitlock is in the rotation options/swingmen category right now. He also has options so he can be bubble as well (though if he continues to pitch as he did in 2021, there's no chance he's ever sent down).
And I hesitate to consider Diekman or Strahm as locks. Yes, they have no options and they're signed to big league deals but they can be ILed or cut if they don't fit.
I'm also convinced they will be starting the season with expanded rosters so there will be more spots to work with. Just because it hasn't been announced yet doesn't mean it won't happen. They've got four weeks and it's something that benefits all parties involved so I can't imagine there will be objections. The only question will be the duration of the extra roster spots.
True. Did I miss others in the latest flurry of Red Sox Hot Stove Action!!!(tm)?
He brings a Sampson-like 2021 WAR of -0.2 to the table.
Can you love an absence of something? I suppose it's possible. But then, it's there. . .so what do you do?
Yes. I mean the Sox had Andrew Bailey and Joel Hanrahan as closers before Koji was given a shot.
Why is Austin Davis a lock to make the roster? He screams DFA candidate to me, and I don't really know that anyone would claim him. He seems to be the definition of fungible.
He’s a lock just in the sense that he’s got no options. Could be a DFA candidate, but I think they like him. He’s got a real JAGgy name and profile but was pretty effective last year.
Ottavino's deal with the Mets is 1 yr/$4M. In other words, just $1M more than we're going to be paying Matt Strahm. Yes, it's not my money and there's plenty to go around, but something seems off kilter there.
Well, to be precise, nobody will be pitching in Pawtucket because we don't have a team there any more.
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Anyone wanna revisit the “buy-a-prospect” from the Padres game now that there’s more CBT room to play with?
Anyone wanna revisit the “buy-a-prospect” from the Padres game now that there’s more CBT room to play with?