Didn’t Kimbrel cross up Vazquez once? Deked his own catcher? Threw a pitch in the middle of the plate about knee high that Vaz couldn’t corral. All’s well that ends well.
If it’s the one I remember it was right down the middle... and called a ball.Didn’t Kimbrel cross up Vazquez once? Deked his own catcher? Threw a pitch in the middle of the plate about knee high that Vaz couldn’t corral. All’s well that ends well.
I think it happened twice.Wasn't that Swihart behind the plate?
This is all on Eck at this point and he looks bad IMO, not Price.Welp. Price went off on Eck today during a press conference (after Eck brought up the price spat in the globe interview)
Threads with his comments
https://weei.radio.com/blogs/ryan-hannable/david-price-dennis-eckersley-drama-red-sox-pitcher-blasts-nesn-broadcaster
If Price is telling the truth ... and IF anyone gives a shitThis is all on Eck at this point and he looks bad IMO, not Price.
The organization needs to step in at this point and tell both parties to cut the shit. Have a sit down with team officials present so they can hammer out their differences. I realize Eckerlsey works for NESN and not the Red Sox but seeing as how NESN depends on the Red Sox to be a successful regional cable sports network, I can't see them balking at a chance to bury this and not have it carrying over any longer. If Eck refuses to meet, he should be told to stifle it on any talk about Price not pertaining to his performance in games. Likewise, Price needs to be told to stop talking about Eckersley when prompted by reporters. It's silly that two years later this is coming back up and it's time for all involved to put it to bed.Welp. Price went off on Eck today during a press conference (after Eck brought up the price spat in the globe interview)
Threads with his comments
https://weei.radio.com/blogs/ryan-hannable/david-price-dennis-eckersley-drama-red-sox-pitcher-blasts-nesn-broadcaster
I was with you until this quote from Price:This is all on Eck at this point and he looks bad IMO, not Price.
You're right. @Chad Finn did.I agree that neither party here is covering himself in glory, exactly....but. But. There is one person who resurrected this thing. And it is not David Price.
If Eck pulled a no show for a meeting that was planned for an in-person apology, said he wants to move on and keeps bringing it up, this isn’t a “both sides” issue.This happened 2 years ago and should be dead and buried. "Both sides" is an accurate take on this one.
Of course Finn brought it up, but Eck could have said, "it was a misunderstanding, I've moved on, I hope Price has. Next question?" What he said was significantly, and unnecessarily, not quite that.You're right. @Chad Finn did.
That’s a bit of a straw man, no?Funny how no one had this take on Eck yesterday before Price one-upped him today by deviating outside the scope of the original incident and getting personal. Price started the whole thing and escalated it today in a pretty mean-spirited fashion. It's not Eck's responsibility to show up to hear an apology (IF that was even going to happen) if he doesn't want to. Eck didn't commit the original sin.
Importantly, no one including David Price.Look, no one is arguing that Price didn’t fuck up.
I don't see this as Eck trying to stir anything up. I think he's acknowledging that they have differing opinions and both don't plan to resolve it. I think the possible skipped meeting does make Eck look bad however.“I don’t plan on saying a word to him, I don’t plan on seeing him, never. I don’t really give a [expletive] one way or another. I don’t think he really cares one way or the other.’’
Completely agree with this. Eck got asked a question about it and effectively said “I don’t care. Don’t think he cares either”Surprised no one has quoted what Eckersley said.
I don't see this as Eck trying to stir anything up. I think he's acknowledging that they have differing opinions and both don't plan to resolve it. I think the possible skipped meeting does make Eck look bad however.
Had David responded most recently with "he's right, I don't care," I don't think anyone would be still talking about this.
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I don’t think what Eck said was that bad and I don’t understand Price’s reaction except to say it shows how incredibly thin skinned he is.Players sometimes take umbrage. Red Sox pitcher David Price, whom Eckersley has criticized for his deliberate pitching style, in 2017 overheard the broadcaster utter on-air a one-word comment — “Yuck” — at the stat line of pitcher Eduardo Rodriguez after a minor league injury rehabilitation start. Price decided the team plane, with a captive audience, was the appropriate time to let Eckersley know how he felt. This is how Globe columnist Dan Shaughnessy described the scene:
Price was standing near the middle of the team aircraft, surrounded by fellow players, waiting for Eckersley. When Eckersley approached, on his way to the back of the plane (Sox broadcasters traditionally sit in the rear of the aircraft), a grandstanding Price stood in front of Eckersley and shouted, “Here he is — the greatest pitcher who ever lived! This game is easy for him!” When a stunned Eckersley tried to speak, Price shot back with, “Get the [expletive] out of here!”
It was an ambush, tactless and calculated, and it still bothers Eckersley. “I didn’t know how to deal with that. I don’t plan on saying a word to him, I don’t plan on seeing him, never. [Broadcasters now board the plane before players.] I don’t really give a [expletive] one way or another. I don’t think he really cares one way or the other.”
When asked about the incident the day after it happened, Price said, “Some people just don’t understand how hard this game is.” It has to be in the running as the most ignorant sentence ever uttered about Dennis Eckersley.
“No one can ever say the game was easy for him,” says Caron. “He battled through everything. He gave up the Gibson home run.”
Routinely? There was the initial run-in, and then two years later, a reporter re-hashed it. I'm not sure that's "trashing a player routinely" at all.Eck probably gets canned for this eventually, my guess. Can’t have a color analyst trashing a player routinely. Easier to jettison Eck over Price.
They both look incredibly petty and immature.
I think Eckersley self-sabotaged himself a bit with his usual florid style. He should have said, "I don't care," and he basically did say that, but he said it in his colorful Eck way, and that was enough to inflame Price once again. I don't think anyone (including Finn) looks particularly good here, but I think Price looks the most thin-skinned.Surprised no one has quoted what Eckersley said.
I don't see this as Eck trying to stir anything up. I think he's acknowledging that they have differing opinions and both don't plan to resolve it. I think the possible skipped meeting does make Eck look bad however.
Had David responded most recently with "he's right, I don't care," I don't think anyone would be still talking about this.
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David Price on the other hand took to social media to try to get the hype machine whipped into a frenzy and to attack Eck.“I didn’t know how to deal with that. I don’t plan on saying a word to him, I don’t plan on seeing him, never. I don’t really give a [expletive] one way or another. I don’t think he really cares one way or the other.”
"Honestly, I just think it’s trash"
"We had a meeting set up in 2017 here at the field," "Got here early. An hour and a half, two hours after I got here, they came and told me he’s not coming. We had a meeting, he backed out. I was going to tell him, ‘I apologize. I didn’t handle it the right way.’ It continues to come up. There’s no reason for it."
If David was going to apologize, kudos to him for trying to squelch this and shame on Eck for not showing up.He wants to move on, but he continues to go on the radio and do interviews about it" "If you want to move on, move on. We’re two grown men. We can meet. Nothing’s going to happen. I yelled at you. I’m sure everybody in here has been yelled at. It’s unfortunate that it happened. I wanted to tell him that face-to-face. He chose not to show up. That was that.
This has nothing to do with the issue between Eck and Price, it is a character assassination of Eck, it's self aggrandizing for Price, and patently false. Gammons said on 98.5 yesterday that he spoke to, I believe, the producer of the MLB Network piece who said that 100% of the former teammates/coaches they reached out to eagerly agreed to participate, appear in the piece, and had nothing but positive things to say about Eck. According to the producer the typical response rate is only around 80%.He had an unbelievable career and he’s a Hall of Famer,” “I saw his special on MLB Network. It was cool. The one thing that stood out to me was that he had zero former teammates in that interview. Not one talking about him. It was him talking about himself. “If anybody ever does a special on me after baseball, I won’t need to go on that interview. I will have former teammates. I will have former coaches. He didn’t have that. To me, that’s all you need to know. That tells the story right there.”
It has become a synonym with "awesome", "exciting", or "eventful". For example: The party is gonna be lit.I don't pretend to be up to date with recent slang, but for those who are.......... is this some kind of reference to Eck's past drinking problem or does "Lit" have another meaning?
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That sounds better........ThanksIt has become a synonym with "awesome", "exciting", or "eventful". For example: The party is gonna be lit.
Who is doing this? Links please.It’s amazing to me that this dude is being scapegoated with immaterial “know your place”-type scolding...[snip]
Not a great look. Price is obviously hinting at something with his comments about none of Eck's teammates being in the documentary. As usual, I probably don't want to know much about current or former sports stars beyond what they do for their job.I find it interesting that Chad Finn admits in today’s follow up column that his favorite team was the 1978 Red Sox, for whom Eck toiled. Finn treated Eck with great deference in his interview for the Sunday Magazine piece. Isn’t it time to call Eck out, especially after his hypocritical take on Marcus Stroman letting out a loud yell and staring at a Red Sox hitter last week? Eck called Stroman’s outburst “tired.” Stroman is enough of a baseball student to know Eck did the same thing over and over again during his HOF career.
Eck is a great color analyst but is he becoming too out of touch with today’s athletes?
Say what you want, this is just Grade A shade. One thing Price knows is how to throw it."Honestly, I just think it’s trash. He had an unbelievable career, 25 seasons. He’s a Hall of Famer. I saw his special on MLB Network. It was cool. One thing that stood out to me is he had zero former teammates in that interview. Not one talking about him. It was him talking about himself. If anybody ever does a special about me after baseball, I won’t need to go on that interview. I will have former teammates, former coaches, they can all vouch for me. He didn’t have that. To me, that’s all you need to know. That tells the entire story right there. My teammates will vouch for me, my coaches will vouch for me. He doesn’t have that, so he has to vouch for himself."
Chad Finn pointed out in today’s follow up article that around five of Eck’s former teammates were quoted in the documentary that Price referenced.Not a great look. Price is obviously hinting at something with his comments about none of Eck's teammates being in the documentary. As usual, I probably don't want to know much about current or former sports stars beyond what they do for their job.
Cool, they should put it in the newspaper that goes only to journalists then.It is still news to journalists.
The event when it happened was pretty big news. Chad Finn couldn't simply just ignore it altogether when putting together the article.Cool, they should put it in the newspaper that goes only to journalists then.
Usually a big fan of Chad, but the article would've been great without it and he inserts his own bias of the situation into the piece. Completely unnecessary.
Yes, when a reporter gets a dynamite quote, he knows it. And yet, this aspect was just a minor part of a lengthy story on Eck’s post-player life.But he didn’t just “not ignore” the incident, he managed to spend quite a bit of words on it and criticize Price himself, again. Is this incident really that important in The scheme of Eck’s life?
IMO Chad knew exactly what would happen with this bit.
I dunno, I found that Eck statement pretty passive-aggressive.I think Eckersley self-sabotaged himself a bit with his usual florid style. He should have said, "I don't care," and he basically did say that, but he said it in his colorful Eck way, and that was enough to inflame Price once again. I don't think anyone (including Finn) looks particularly good here, but I think Price looks the most thin-skinned.
You’re right on this, of course. This happens a lot in regular news stories. Someone with a past history breaks a law and his whole history is repeated in the back end of the story. Most of the time, it is related to the most recent incident. But not always.Cool, they should put it in the newspaper that goes only to journalists then.
Usually a big fan of Chad, but the article would've been great without it and he inserts his own bias of the situation into the piece. Completely unnecessary.