I'd guess that Harvin bonked Russell Wilson's wife, but RW dumped her in the off-season after Golden Tate bonked her (no, not kidding).
Maybe Harvin hit on Mrs. Carroll.
Maybe Harvin hit on Mrs. Carroll.
Percy Harvin traded to the Jets
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I see the value to the Jets if it's a mid-rounder. I don't see a guy like Paul Allen worrying about $6 million in 2014 money unless it's a cap issue and there's another trade coming. So that leaves extraordinary prep-work problem or a devaluation of the position.
coremiller said:
I see the value to the Jets if it's a mid-rounder. I don't see a guy like Paul Allen worrying about $6 million in 2014 money unless it's a cap issue and there's another trade coming. So that leaves extraordinary prep-work problem or a devaluation of the position.
I think it could be a combination of both on and off the field incidents. Maybe Seattle felt like they were abandoning what made their offense successful last season by forcing plays into the hands of Harvin. I think Harvin has been overrated for most of his career, considering that he is a pretty limited football player. Maybe when some of the other offensive players criticized Harvin, Harvin took it personally and had a very negative reaction.
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 32s32 seconds ago
Percy Harvin's anger management issues have followed him, and I'm told that was part of the problem in Seattle.
Percy Harvin's anger management issues have followed him, and I'm told that was part of the problem in Seattle.
Ed Hillel said:
Unless they go on a 10 game winning streak, thanks solely to Percy Harvin, there is no chance he plays for the Jets next year under the terms of this contract. They are giving up a mid round pick to see what they have in him and Geno Smith, this year. For a 1-6 team going nowhere, that's really, really valuable information that just fell in their lap. If Harvin turns out to be great, they'll be in a prime position to resign him over and above everyone else. If he sucks or shoots his way out of town, so be it, it barely cost them anything.
Jason Cole @JasonPhilCole 14m14 minutes ago
I have been hearing since March that #Seahawks locker room is oddly tense. Not sure if this is proof of that, but it's out there.
I have been hearing since March that #Seahawks locker room is oddly tense. Not sure if this is proof of that, but it's out there.
You have to wonder whether the Seahawks will look to add another WR before the trade deadline. I know mid-season trades don't happen often in the NFL but their WR/TE options are simply piss poor in both depth and quality at this point. That's the kind of weakness that could torpedo their season, especially if Baldwin or Kearse (neither of whom are very good to begin with) gets injured.
soxhop411 said:
Good team, good coach, big money, a ring.
Yeah, sounds like a miserable situation. If he's not happy there, where will he be?
He probably just wants to go to a team that doesn't negate all his TD's with penalties. As a fantasy owner of his, I support his decision. I'm sure having Smith throw to him will improve his numbers.
soxhop411 said:
This is SUCH a Jets move. I couldn't script a more Jet-esque move.
Watch the much heralded cap space quickly disappear when they extend Wilkerson and "Snacks" Harrison.
Keep in mind they're costing themselves 6.5 million against the cap next year regardless. Maybe they get him to agree to a better deal, but I'm skeptical he wouldn't go to free agency unless the Jets pay him more than he's making now anyway.Deathofthebambino said:
Whistling past the grave yard, Idzik?
The resident troublemaker Volin covered him down in Florida:
The resident troublemaker Volin covered him down in Florida:
I don't think 6.5 million is a big deal to the Jets right now. The team is not exactly knocking on the door of a championship. I think folks are really underselling how important is it to the Jets to find their next QB, and I really believe bringing in a skill position guy like Harvin will give them a chance to find out if Geno is that guy or not. Every good young QB in the NFL, save maybe Russell Wilson, has had guys around him that helped transition him into a good, young quarterback. I really think this move is about Geno as much as it is about winning now or next year. They need to find out if Geno is the guy, or they need to go out and look for their 445th QB in the past decade in the offseason. Without some skill position guys for Geno to play with on that side of the ball, I don't think they can definitively answer that all important question.
Remagellan said:
You must figure BB could have gone in, but decided to pass. Can't imagine Jets were the only teams contacted about a trade.
Deathofthebambino said:
But a talented, moody, and malcontent (all assuming the reports are true) "star" player can also hinder a young QB's growth.
Also, Russell was drafted just one year ahead of Smith. If Harvin couldn't work with Russell with all that other supporting cast, how the hell can he work with Smith (or whomever) in a shitstorm that's about to brew over the Jets?
For example, the "straw" that broke and got Percy traded to the Seahawks in the first place:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl---sources--percy-harvin-s-lack-of-confidence-in-christian-ponder-was-final-straw-for-vikings-205048037.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl---sources--percy-harvin-s-lack-of-confidence-in-christian-ponder-was-final-straw-for-vikings-205048037.html
To be fair, Smith is a much better QB than Ponder.
Uh.... Holy shit
Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein · 19m 19 minutes ago
Heard “anger management” had quite a bit to do w/ Harvin’s departure in Seattle. (1/2)
Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein 17m17 minutes ago
History of confrontations w/ teammates contd in SEA according to my guy including punching G Tate during SB week & near fight w/ #3 in ‘14
Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein · 19m 19 minutes ago
Heard “anger management” had quite a bit to do w/ Harvin’s departure in Seattle. (1/2)
Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein 17m17 minutes ago
History of confrontations w/ teammates contd in SEA according to my guy including punching G Tate during SB week & near fight w/ #3 in ‘14
Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein 16m16 minutes ago
I was told “Harvin’s anger issues are just too much to deal with and he could single handedly bring down team chemistry”. Wow. Unreal.
I was told “Harvin’s anger issues are just too much to deal with and he could single handedly bring down team chemistry”. Wow. Unreal.
Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein 15m15 minutes ago
I was told “Go find a team picture from Super Bowl and you can still see part of the black eye Tate got from Harvin"
Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein 11m11 minutes ago
Here are two tweets I just got from NFL personnel guys: “Literally heard minutes ago what you tweeted. Crazy. Jets didn’t do their homework"
Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein 11m11 minutes ago
Also got this text minutes ago: “Seattle just suckered the Jets. That GM is clueless”. Yikes.
I was told “Go find a team picture from Super Bowl and you can still see part of the black eye Tate got from Harvin"
Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein 11m11 minutes ago
Here are two tweets I just got from NFL personnel guys: “Literally heard minutes ago what you tweeted. Crazy. Jets didn’t do their homework"
Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein 11m11 minutes ago
Also got this text minutes ago: “Seattle just suckered the Jets. That GM is clueless”. Yikes.
Just think about what sort of trade the Jets would have pulled off today had they actually won the game last night.
With Harvin in the fold, all they need to do now is win nine in a row and they're right back in this thing.
The New York Jets; the gift that keeps on giving.
With Harvin in the fold, all they need to do now is win nine in a row and they're right back in this thing.
The New York Jets; the gift that keeps on giving.
soxhop411 said:
For some reason, the Jets fandom seems to be blissfully ignorant of the issue. Lot of "why wasn't this done weeks ago" reactions: http://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/jets-acquire-percy-harvin.82265/
Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein · 8m 8 minutes ago
Check out how G.Tate is separated from WRs on diff row WITH black eye. RT @Minnott: @LanceZierlein He's not wrong: http://bit.ly/1nsZ3yV
Check out how G.Tate is separated from WRs on diff row WITH black eye. RT @Minnott: @LanceZierlein He's not wrong: http://bit.ly/1nsZ3yV
What does not make sense: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/percy-harvin/
Percy has 7m dead money if released this year (obviously not going to happen) and a whopping $10.5m, $9.9m, $9.95m, and 11.15m cap hits until 2018.
I see another edition to the Vick, CJ2K, breakdown on Football Central in near future.
Percy has 7m dead money if released this year (obviously not going to happen) and a whopping $10.5m, $9.9m, $9.95m, and 11.15m cap hits until 2018.
I see another edition to the Vick, CJ2K, breakdown on Football Central in near future.
A coup for the Jets? Going to disagree with that. Lets just say when I think of situations for a troubled player who has worn out his welcome in two spots to find his footing, I dont think playing in New York for a 1-6 team with a struggling 2nd year quarterback where all the adult supervision is going to get fired in ten weeks as the ideal spot. The next group of adults is going to be shitcanning Geno pretty quickly.Deathofthebambino said:
It amazes me that with all the media presence at the Super Bowl, nobody picked up on a fight between 2 starters. Too busy ball washing Manning.
Stitch01 said:
And that's a big if. Has played 15, 16, 14, 9, then 1 game last year. Bouncing back with 5 games so far (with a huge drop in yards/rec. with just 6.0 per catch from career average of 11.4).
I think Seattle is getting out when they can.
Well I certainly dont think it was sending a message to the rest of the 2010 Patriots that they better shape out or get shipped off to a shit team. I dont think it had much to do with salary cap since he was in the final year and the rollover rules are different in 2010 than now. He certainly wasn't in his physical prime like Harvin is. After leaving the Pats Moss caught 19 passes the rest of the year, sat out a year, then caught 28 passes. So yeah, Im going to say he was reaching the end of the line and the trade was nothing like this one.Rudy Pemberton said:
Right, but its nothing like Chris Johnson, who is clearly terrible and was an obvious terrible signing, or Vick, who is a fine backup for the Jets if he actually wants to play quarterback and we ignore the idiot fans who think its 2001.SeoulSoxFan said:
Id bet Harvin is very productive if he stays healthy and isnt an idiot. I think he's useless to the Jets given where the franchise is and pretty destined to flame out if he's an off the field issue given he's going to clown college, but its not really a situation where the fans are overestimating the onfield player or they're signing a name 5 years past his prime.
What's strange about this for Seattle is why they don't have a Plan B. If they knew Harvin had chemistry issues last year, why didn't they try to move him in the off-season, or at least stockpile more depth at WR? Not only are they now pretty weak and thin at WR (Baldwin/Kearse/Lockette is not going to scare anyone), but they now have to redo a lot of their basic offensive scheme on the fly, since they tailored the scheme this year to Harvin's unique talents and you can't just plug someone else into that role.
Part of the problem was that Tate's behavior was an even bigger issue. After the thing with Wilson's wife, they had to let him go.
But yeah, getting more depth would've helped them avoid the situation they're in now.
So Harvin gave Tate a black eye, Tate fucked Wilson's wife, and Harvin then fought Wilson later? Just trying to keep track....
Also, Marshawn Lynch has this to say:
Shawn LynchVerified account @MoneyLynch
Damn they got my nigga....
Also, Marshawn Lynch has this to say:
Shawn LynchVerified account @MoneyLynch Damn they got my nigga....
The chemistry sure didn't hurt them in the Super Bowl. It does explain why they could only get a 2-4th round pick, if teams researched better, they'd stay away.
I also think sometime after a team wins a championship, the management gets too much hubris.
One thing is sure, I'd much rather see him on the Jets as a Pats fan than Denver or Buffalo
I also think sometime after a team wins a championship, the management gets too much hubris.
One thing is sure, I'd much rather see him on the Jets as a Pats fan than Denver or Buffalo