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I think Stefanski has been calling the offensive plays for Cleveland as well. At least they have five days to figure something out; maybe they do a lot of no-huddle and let Mayfield call a lot of his own plays?
Have Stefanski call in from home, while watching on TV. With a cable box, so there is less delay. I am partially kidding.
 

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This is probably a dumb question, but what is preventing the league from having a coach in isolation hooked up to the teams game day communication channels? Why can't they get Stefanski (or any other coach) a Herbstreit-like set up in his house and have him on a head set with the team?

Edit: johnmd20 beat me to it
 

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This is probably a dumb question, but what is preventing the league from having a coach in isolation hooked up to the teams game day communication channels? Why can't they get Stefanski (or any other coach) a Herbstreit-like set up in his house and have him on a head set with the team?

Edit: johnmd20 beat me to it
My idea was to not involve the NFL at all and just have Kevin hooked up with the Special Teams guy on a phone call while watching on TV, which would cost the Browns about 8 seconds on every play due to the delay. That is not a great idea.

But it does stand to reason that if Kirk can call a game from home, a coach can coach from home. Or at least call the plays.
 

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My idea was to not involve the NFL at all and just have Kevin hooked up with the Special Teams guy on a phone call while watching on TV, which would cost the Browns about 8 seconds on every play due to the delay. That is not a great idea.

But it does stand to reason that if Kirk can call a game from home, a coach can coach from home. Or at least call the plays.
Also, the NFL rules about sideline/booth communication are fairly stringent (no cell phone comms, for one), and the Browns and Falcons actually got hit a few years back for violating them on separate occasions. Hilariously, Jim Mora Jr. actually called someone with the team from the sideline to ascertain how a tie would impact the Falcons playoff chances.

This is a big problem for the Browns, Stefanski has been great about putting Baker in optimal position drive to drive.
 

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I've mentioned this before as I really, really don't like the Steelers but Tomlin has coached for 14 years and won 65% of his games while winning a Super Bowl and appearing in another. Yes, he's had a very good QB/GM/owner but even St. Bill Cowher had back-to-back losing seasons and three in total (Tomlin has zero) and missed the playoffs three straight years (which Tomlin has never done). I'm pretty sure we have sufficient evidence that the guy is a very good coach.
Tomlin's teams are always undisciplined and consistently underperform.
He has had great rosters for years and has not gotten the most of them. He is not the worst coach, but I would not put him in the top 5 and could argue my way to barely top 10 if a few of the new coaches continue their upward trajectory.
 

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Tomlin's teams are always undisciplined and consistently underperform.
He has had great rosters for years and has not gotten the most of them. He is not the worst coach, but I would not put him in the top 5 and could argue my way to barely top 10 if a few of the new coaches continue their upward trajectory.
They've consistently underperformed their way to zero losing seasons in 14 years. Everyone else has had at least one since he's been there, and the Pats are the only one with one. He also won eight games last year with Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges. He's won 65% of his games over 14 years. If the Steelers fired him, he'd be unemployed for about .4 seconds. How do you possibly reconcile that he's not a very good coach?
 

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They've consistently underperformed their way to zero losing seasons in 14 years. Everyone else has had at least one since he's been there, and the Pats are the only one with one. He also won eight games last year with Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges. He's won 65% of his games over 14 years. If the Steelers fired him, he'd be unemployed for about .4 seconds. How do you possibly reconcile that he's not a very good coach?
Because he tripped an opposing player and he said mean things about the Patriots

There's no rational reason possible for calling Tomlin a bad coach
 

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They've consistently underperformed their way to zero losing seasons in 14 years. Everyone else has had at least one since he's been there, and the Pats are the only one with one. He also won eight games last year with Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges. He's won 65% of his games over 14 years. If the Steelers fired him, he'd be unemployed for about .4 seconds. How do you possibly reconcile that he's not a very good coach?
His teams have always played down to opponents, have a bad habit of overlooking opponents, and I can not think of the last game I was surprised that they won.
Also never having a losing season is kinda a meh stat since he has gone 8-8 3 times and missed the playoffs 5 times. The guy doesn't elevate his teams talent, his team's talent elevates him.

I would easily take BB, John Harbaugh, Andy Reid, Sean Payton, and Pete Carrol over him
I would strongly consider taking Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Jon Gruden over him
I could be convinced to take Mike Vrabel and Brian Flores over him

So even if I place him before the third group that is the 9th best coach out of 32 so I would not consider anyone in that ranking very good.
 

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They've consistently underperformed their way to zero losing seasons in 14 years. Everyone else has had at least one since he's been there, and the Pats are the only one with one. He also won eight games last year with Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges. He's won 65% of his games over 14 years. If the Steelers fired him, he'd be unemployed for about .4 seconds. How do you possibly reconcile that he's not a very good coach?
There is no way to reconcile it. It's a ridiculous comment. Probably due to Steeler hatred.

Tomlin is a great coach. And this isn't just a guess. Look at his track record. I love comments like, "he's never done anything with the talent they have," just because they have had a couple of solid WRs and a great RB. Maybe it's the coaching that makes those guys great. Le'Von Bell fucking sucks now. He was a monster in Pitt.

And the only guy who you can call truly generational is Antonio Bryant, who was a nutjob on his way out, but also someone who wasn't that crazy on the Steelers. Again, that might have something to do with the coach. And Ben R is certainly great, but he's not generational either. Matthew Stafford is a similar player. Stafford hasn't done well, it seems, but I guess he's lucky he never played for an overrated coach like Tomlin.
 

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Yeah I don't get it. Tomlin is quite obviously a really really good NFL coach. He's not Belichick, but then again, nobody is. If BB retired tomorrow and Tomlin were to become available, every Pats fan in the world would be crazy to be unhappy if Kraft hired him.
 

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His teams have always played down to opponents, have a bad habit of overlooking opponents, and I can not think of the last game I was surprised that they won.
Also never having a losing season is kinda a meh stat since he has gone 8-8 3 times and missed the playoffs 5 times. The guy doesn't elevate his teams talent, his team's talent elevates him.

I would easily take BB, John Harbaugh, Andy Reid, Sean Payton, and Pete Carrol over him
I would strongly consider taking Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Jon Gruden over him
I could be convinced to take Mike Vrabel and Brian Flores over him

So even if I place him before the third group that is the 9th best coach out of 32 so I would not consider anyone in that ranking very good.
Yes, they do have a habit of overlooking bad opponents. And yet, despite that, they've won 65% of the time over 14 years. As for being surprised that they won, they're 3-0 this year in games they tried as underdogs (TEN, at BAL, IND) and almost beat the Browns as 10-point dogs with their backups. They went 8-6 last year with Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges. Does that not count as being surprised?

Let's for the purpose of your argument use non-winning seasons and missed playoffs during his tenure. The Steelers have had three and five respectively since 2007. Only the Pats have had fewer non-winning seasons while only the Pats, Packers and Seahawks have missed the playoffs fewer times and the Seahawks have a season where they got in at 7-9.

No one will argue against BB but let's take a look at the rest of these guys:

Harbaugh: The easiest comparison since they're in the same division. Won a SB but hasn't been to another. Two fewer division titles since he was hired. Regular season winning percentage 30 points lower. Missed the playoffs three years in a row and four of five from 13-17. Won one playoff game the last seven years.

Reid: There's obviously an argument for him but he's not perfect. Won one playoff game in nine years from 09-17 (against Brian Hoyer), which included going 8-8 with the "Dream Team" and then bottoming out the next year at 4-12 and getting fired. He's obviously a HOF coach that's one of the great offensive minds in history but it also helps to have possibly the most talented QB ever.

Payton: He's coached the same number of seasons (came in a year earlier but lost a year to Bountygate). Only one SB appearance. Lower winning percentage despite being in a much worse division. Five non-winning seasons including three losing seasons in a row from 14-16.

Carroll: This is one I can definitely see, although his winning percentage with the Seahawks is still lower than Tomlin's. Only missed the playoffs twice in 11 years, but one year he made it at 7-9.

As Super Nomario mentioned above, taking Shanahan and Gruden especially just doesn't even pass the smell test. McVay is a great coach but his offensive expertise got punked in his SB appearance and he didn't win a playoff game his other two years. Vrabel is a very good coach (especially knowing how to exploit the rules) but it's still too early. Flores certainly has Miami on the right track and they overachieved this year. They also just gave up 56 points with their season on the line playing half the game against Matt Barkley.

In addition, while Ben is certainly going to make the HOF it's not like he's some cheat code. He's never received a single MVP vote or even made second-team All-Pro.

This is just mostly all nonsense and I guarantee I hate the Steelers more than you do. Do you realize how inane of a position you have to take for me to defend them like this?
 
The strongest anti-Tomlin arguments are 1) the number of bizarre losses his teams have had over the years, and 2) the amazing front office work which gives him a depth of talent that most coaches would kill to have year in and year out.

(They're not terribly strong arguments, particularly when you compare him against the competition. To paraphrase the line about democracy as a system of government, Tomlin is the sort of guy you could say is the worst NFL coach you've ever seen, except for all the others.)
 

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Tomlin has won one SB, been to another and the Pats prevented them from going to a third. I'd also venture to guess that losing home field because the Patriots were a higher seed also cost them some playoff run.

Patriots' fans (is SilverDude a Pat fan?) are blinded by the Patriots run. Besides the Patriots, what fan base has been the most satisfied since 2007?

Baltimore? Seattle? KC? NO? Indy? GB?

I'd say a Steeler fan would have to think hard about trading the last 13 years with any of those, as more than a couple (Seattle, Indy, NO, GB) probably feel that they should have "more".

Sustained success is fucking hard in the NFL. A run of 5+ great years is rare. 8+ would get any fan hard. 10+ (let alone 13 and counting)gets you into rarified air.
 
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Yes, they do have a habit of overlooking bad opponents. And yet, despite that, they've won 65% of the time over 14 years. As for being surprised that they won, they're 3-0 this year in games they tried as underdogs (TEN, at BAL, IND) and almost beat the Browns as 10-point dogs with their backups. They went 8-6 last year with Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges. Does that not count as being surprised?

Let's for the purpose of your argument use non-winning seasons and missed playoffs during his tenure. The Steelers have had three and five respectively since 2007. Only the Pats have had fewer non-winning seasons while only the Pats, Packers and Seahawks have missed the playoffs fewer times and the Seahawks have a season where they got in at 7-9.

No one will argue against BB but let's take a look at the rest of these guys:

Harbaugh: The easiest comparison since they're in the same division. Won a SB but hasn't been to another. Two fewer division titles since he was hired. Regular season winning percentage 30 points lower. Missed the playoffs three years in a row and four of five from 13-17. Won one playoff game the last seven years.

Reid: There's obviously an argument for him but he's not perfect. Won one playoff game in nine years from 09-17 (against Brian Hoyer), which included going 8-8 with the "Dream Team" and then bottoming out the next year at 4-12 and getting fired. He's obviously a HOF coach that's one of the great offensive minds in history but it also helps to have possibly the most talented QB ever.

Payton: He's coached the same number of seasons (came in a year earlier but lost a year to Bountygate). Only one SB appearance. Lower winning percentage despite being in a much worse division. Five non-winning seasons including three losing seasons in a row from 14-16.

Carroll: This is one I can definitely see, although his winning percentage with the Seahawks is still lower than Tomlin's. Only missed the playoffs twice in 11 years, but one year he made it at 7-9.

As Super Nomario mentioned above, taking Shanahan and Gruden especially just doesn't even pass the smell test. McVay is a great coach but his offensive expertise got punked in his SB appearance and he didn't win a playoff game his other two years. Vrabel is a very good coach (especially knowing how to exploit the rules) but it's still too early. Flores certainly has Miami on the right track and they overachieved this year. They also just gave up 56 points with their season on the line playing half the game against Matt Barkley.

In addition, while Ben is certainly going to make the HOF it's not like he's some cheat code. He's never received a single MVP vote or even made second-team All-Pro.

This is just mostly all nonsense and I guarantee I hate the Steelers more than you do. Do you realize how inane of a position you have to take for me to defend them like this?
I just want to say, this is a really good post and I applaud you for doing the work.
 

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Yeah, if the NFL wanted to allow this, I'm sure it could facilitate real-time communications for a coach stuck at home and bypass the normal transmission delays. (I wonder if the Browns are investigating this option already?)
From the way I understand it, they are using the same approach as they did with college football; if you are on the COVID list as a coach, you cannot have any contact with the team, period.

Unless you're the Chiefs, then it's ok.
 

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The stadium is mostly empty; Stefanski should be allowed to call the game from a box. They can’t make a safe space? Give me a break.
 

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The stadium is mostly empty; Stefanski should be allowed to call the game from a box. They can’t make a safe space? Give me a break.
That's where I'm at. I get that he shouldn't be allowed to, say, call in from his house, because there he's watching the game on TV and can get some more intel from replay, etc. But football stadiums are enormous facilities. The thought that he can't have one spot where he can do the game safely is ludicrous.
 

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I don't think following CDC guidelines is ludicrous.

Stefanski has tested positive. He shouldn't be going anywhere.
 

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No practice? No head coach? Browns can just go back to drawing plays up in the dirt:
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I can’t wrap my head around the fact that a large percentage of pro athletes aren’t taking the vaccine. It literally will affect your job if you don’t get it. All of the protocols will be lessened if you have a team with high vaccination rates plus you don’t have to miss time as a high risk contact if a positive test happens. It’s like the pocket of society who complains about having to wear masks yet refuses to take the one thing that will reduce mask usage.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/06/05/sports/nfl-struggling-convince-enough-players-get-vaccinated/
 

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I can’t wrap my head around the fact that a large percentage of pro athletes aren’t taking the vaccine. It literally will affect your job if you don’t get it. All of the protocols will be lessened if you have a team with high vaccination rates plus you don’t have to miss time as a high risk contact if a positive test happens. It’s like the pocket of society who complains about having to wear masks yet refuses to take the one thing that will reduce mask usage.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/06/05/sports/nfl-struggling-convince-enough-players-get-vaccinated/
The vast majority of pro athletes are in their 20's and 30's; maybe they feel they are young enough not to worry about it? Plus, correct me if I am wrong, but has any high profile athlete from any sport gotten COVID and either was really sick/is still not 100%/has passed away from it?

I know of 4 people who died from COVID including my uncle, plus I know of 3 people who had it and are still having side effects from it......................granted, those aren't huge numbers, but I got the vaccine because did not want to get really sick or die from it when there is a vaccine out there that will prevent both of those things happening to me.
 
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It is stunning to me that somehow the message "YEAH BUT YOU CAN HELP STOP THE SPREAD OF COVID AND ITS VARIANTS, SO IF YOU CAN GET VACCINATED GET IT - DON'T BE AN ASSHOLE" still hasn't become mainstream enough for pro athletes (and millions of others) to get the point.
 

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It is stunning to me that somehow the message "YEAH BUT YOU CAN HELP STOP THE SPREAD OF COVID AND ITS VARIANTS, SO IF YOU CAN GET VACCINATED GET IT - DON'T BE AN ASSHOLE" still hasn't become mainstream enough for pro athletes (and millions of others) to get the point.
Tell that to my cousin among others; he claims there is no proof the vaccine actually works, the government is manipulating the numbers to make it look like it works.

I just can't with him anymore, cousin or no cousin.......................
 

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I can’t wrap my head around the fact that a large percentage of pro athletes aren’t taking the vaccine. It literally will affect your job if you don’t get it. All of the protocols will be lessened if you have a team with high vaccination rates plus you don’t have to miss time as a high risk contact if a positive test happens. It’s like the pocket of society who complains about having to wear masks yet refuses to take the one thing that will reduce mask usage.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/06/05/sports/nfl-struggling-convince-enough-players-get-vaccinated/
They've grown up being told they're exceptional, physically and mentally. They've spent countless hours honing those gifts to perfection. They're getting paid millions to BE exceptional. They are hometown heroes, literally the greatest athletes in the history of their towns or schools. Beyond the injuries that come along with their play and training, they feel invincible. They are told to ignore pain, to bear down and fight through it. Of course they think COVID's nonsense. It's magical, toxic thinking that rides right alongside other illogical concepts (unfettered capitalism, national exceptionalism, racial superiority, meritocracy at the highest levels). There are plenty of players who don't go that route, but they tend to be the exception, not the rule.
 

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They've grown up being told they're exceptional, physically and mentally. They've spent countless hours honing those gifts to perfection. They're getting paid millions to BE exceptional. They are hometown heroes, literally the greatest athletes in the history of their towns or schools. Beyond the injuries that come along with their play and training, they feel invincible. They are told to ignore pain, to bear down and fight through it. Of course they think COVID's nonsense. It's magical, toxic thinking that rides right alongside other illogical concepts (unfettered capitalism, national exceptionalism, racial superiority, meritocracy at the highest levels). There are plenty of players who don't go that route, but they tend to be the exception, not the rule.
Very true. Its the same reason why they get DUIs, rather than taking a cab or hiring a driver. They think they're untouchable.
 

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Slick to throw in the marketing/promotion bullet which could cost some real money. Along with daily testing and extreme ostracizing, can’t fathom too many holdouts moving forward.
 

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I posted that in the general covid thread also. The NFL has been excellent on covid protocols. Even Sally Jenkins lavished praise on Goodell in a post-Super Bowl column last Feb.
 

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Slick to throw in the marketing/promotion bullet which could cost some real money. Along with daily testing and extreme ostracizing, can’t fathom too many holdouts moving forward.
So the players union is going to allow the league to forbid unvaccinated player x from posting "Buy XYZ Cola" on his IG account for pay? And even if the players union allows it, there are a lot of lawyers that would love a crack at that one. That blows my mind that the league would even think they could enforce that one.
 

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So the players union is going to allow the league to forbid unvaccinated player x from posting "Buy XYZ Cola" on his IG account for pay? And even if the players union allows it, there are a lot of lawyers that would love a crack at that one. That blows my mind that the league would even think they could enforce that one.
I had to do a double take on that one too, but it's "social/media/marketing/sponsorship" activities - which reads more like marketing events with a group of people/audience or shooting commercials etc.
 

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I had to do a double take on that one too, but it's "social/media/marketing/sponsorship" activities - which reads more like marketing events with a group of people/audience or shooting commercials etc.
Even that is rough, and doesn't help the league. So if QB du jour has a great game but isn't vaccinated, then he doesn't get to meet with the press after the game? And if they allow him to meet with THEIR media gaggle then they don't have a leg to stand on if he then jumps on a podcast or something. I just don't see it enforceable without opening a can of worms. I get the intent, seems like major over reaching.

Edit: or let me say it this way - if I were a ticked off player I'd interpret it the way this way... "no media activities means no after game Q&A, sorry guys".
 

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So the players union is going to allow the league to forbid unvaccinated player x from posting "Buy XYZ Cola" on his IG account for pay? And even if the players union allows it, there are a lot of lawyers that would love a crack at that one. That blows my mind that the league would even think they could enforce that one.
Jesus christ with this fucking shit.

If people get the vaccine, Covid will disappear, like the measles, polio, tuberculosis, smallpox, whooping cough, and a variety of other diseases that have killed hundreds of millions of people over the years . Why isn't polio a problem for society anymore? How often do you hear people dying of typhoid?

However, some people want their FREEDOM to avoid putting the knife into Covid. So we end up in this place, where the NFL comes up with a pretty solid solution to protect the players and the fans and you're like, "MIND BLOWN, LAWYERS NEED TO BE INVOLVED. THIS WILL NOT STAND."

It is so exhausting having to listen to idiots like Cole Beasley, who was lucky enough to be born with a body that could handle the rigors of football and world class hand eye coordination, which he didn't earn but was given to by the grace of whatever deity you believe in, and he's spouting this ignorant garbage like he graduated as valedictorian from MIT and then spent 15 years in a lab studying medicine.

Idiots are idiots. And it is exhausting and ponderous.
 

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If people get the vaccine, Covid will disappear, like the measles, polio, tuberculosis, smallpox, whooping cough, and a variety of other diseases that have killed hundreds of millions of people over the years . Why isn't polio a problem for society anymore? How often do you hear people dying of typhoid?

However, some people want their FREEDOM to avoid putting the knife into Covid.

Idiots are idiots. And it is exhausting and ponderous.
This guy gets it.

Simple solution to wipe out a worldwide pandemic, yet there are still those who refuse to be part of the solution.

Instead, they are part of the problem.
 

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Cole Beasley doing some Steiner math to justify not getting vaccinated. A reminder that we aren't dealing with rocket scientists here.
Many of these same players will do PEDs, Uppers, Pain Killers, whatever it takes to stay in the league but won’t take a fucking vaccine?

have the team doctor shoot me up at half time with toroidal? No problem as long as I can play. Take a vaccine To play the man is telling me what to do!
 

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Many of these same players will do PEDs, Uppers, Pain Killers, whatever it takes to stay in the league but won’t take a fucking vaccine?

have the team doctor shoot me up at half time with toroidal? No problem as long as I can play. Take a vaccine To play the man is telling me what to do!
He just needs to do a little more research. I am sure he basically can name ever single chemical compound in Toroidal and he probably can write the formula for it, too. He can probably make it in a lab, actually. Because he did the research. Yeah, that's it.
 

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Jesus christ with this fucking shit.

If people get the vaccine, Covid will disappear, like the measles, polio, tuberculosis, smallpox, whooping cough, and a variety of other diseases that have killed hundreds of millions of people over the years . Why isn't polio a problem for society anymore? How often do you hear people dying of typhoid?

However, some people want their FREEDOM to avoid putting the knife into Covid. So we end up in this place, where the NFL comes up with a pretty solid solution to protect the players and the fans and you're like, "MIND BLOWN, LAWYERS NEED TO BE INVOLVED. THIS WILL NOT STAND."

It is so exhausting having to listen to idiots like Cole Beasley, who was lucky enough to be born with a body that could handle the rigors of football and world class hand eye coordination, which he didn't earn but was given to by the grace of whatever deity you believe in, and he's spouting this ignorant garbage like he graduated as valedictorian from MIT and then spent 15 years in a lab studying medicine.

Idiots are idiots. And it is exhausting and ponderous.
This was a theoretical post about the inability of the NFL to enforce a policy essentially taking away players rights to free speech (interact with their media/sponsors, etc.)

I'm not quite sure why you are going all covid rant here in this thread.
 

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Sources: Two teams have crossed the much-talked about 85% threshold for player vaccinations (fully vaccinated or in the process). Those two are the Dolphins and Saints. Nothing's agreed upon yet, but NFL and NFLPA have discussed relaxed protocols for teams over that threshold.

Has anyone heard anything regarding the vaccination rate of the Patriots players? I have found this article where BB is quoted as saying that their information campaign is great, but no numbers.
 

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Sources: Two teams have crossed the much-talked about 85% threshold for player vaccinations (fully vaccinated or in the process). Those two are the Dolphins and Saints. Nothing's agreed upon yet, but NFL and NFLPA have discussed relaxed protocols for teams over that threshold.


Has anyone heard anything regarding the vaccination rate of the Patriots players? I have found this article where BB is quoted as saying that their information campaign is great, but no numbers.
I haven’t heard specific number but Breer was on Toucher and Rich yesterday and the best he knew is that the Patriots aren’t in the top 5 or the bottom 5 as far as rates go.
 

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This was a theoretical post about the inability of the NFL to enforce a policy essentially taking away players rights to free speech (interact with their media/sponsors, etc.)

I'm not quite sure why you are going all covid rant here in this thread.
Pro sports leagues, and many other industries, can and do regulate the public speech of their employees all the time. The "free" part means that if one doesn't like those regulations, one is free to find another line of work. And @johnmd20 is spot on the money. There is a simple, safe, highly effective way to end this pandemic. It is exhausting to read about and listen to half-wits like Cole Beasley manufacture bullshit reasons not to play their part, do the responsible thing, and get vaccinated.
 
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I wonder what would happen to a locker room if/when, say, one of the responsible (read: vaccinated) players happens to see someone in their own household come down with a COVID variant - even if the ill person is already vaccinated, which, of course, we all know can still happen - and sees, rightly or wrongly, someone like Cole Beasley or Josh fucking Allen as the reason it happened. Whether or not those unvaccinated players are to blame, it'll be a tricky issue for the team to deal with. Just wait.