Oh I agree completely, but seems like the horse has left the barn on that.
They offered four first round picks for Butler last before Philly swooped in. If you're Philly how many picks do you need attached to Capela or Gordon before you consider doing that deal? I actually think a floor-spacer like Gordon could work really well on that team but I'm not doing that as a 1 for 1.
I like all three of Brogdon, Satoransky and Bryant too.
I agree on Satoransky. I think he’s a rotational player if not a starter. I might even try the Wiz on a Rozier for Satoransky deal just to avoid the overpay.
Curious how he thinks they are going to free up the cap space. I guess they could work out a sign-and-trade, but do they have anything left to trade to Toronto?
ha Bryant, yea sign him...another youngster the Lakers just gave away for nothing after having an outstanding G-League season for the Lakers in 2017-18. The guy doesn't miss all that often.
Obviously if you have the chance to build around the 4th and 5th best players for a 32 win team, you pretty much have to do it...
They'd be the guys I'm building around?
I just thought it was funny to target two former Wizards, but it's obviously not actually disqualifying. Apologies - it was more of a laugh line.
Not that I’d expect that team to make a particularly deep playoff run, but you’re relying an awful lot of rookies to give you minutes. Essentially that team is:
Also the salary cap exists and the 10M needed to match Brown and Turner has to come from somewhere.
Depends what you are looking for, but I see Turner as a far more interesting fit than Sabonis. I like both, but Sabonis is a points and boards guy who isn't that great a defender. I don't see him as a great fit with a team adding Kemba, and accordingly being loaded with scorers and no rim protection. Turner I assume was suggested because he's a terrific rim protector, and his offense is more of the 3pt shooting variety
Except a team starting Kemba, Smart, Hayward, Tatum, and Sabonis would get absolutely lit up on the defensive end...
I just like Turner so much more than Sabonis, given the proven range and (especially) defensive upside. I would definitely get behind Brown for Turner, and that makes some sense for Indy. This is regardless of Kemba, but I get that they want to use the cap space this summer.
Why would we trade Brown for a big? Wings that can play both ways and shoot from outside are more valuable than big men in today's NBA. It is much easier to get by with a below-average 5 than below-average wings.
Why? What is the case for Capela on the Celtics? What does he do well? And note I like him but he isn't a fit with the current roster or even with any of the other moves they are discussing.
Sure. And trading for Turner means we likely lose Smart too though. And in addition to losing Smart, we now have less money to sign a PG.
I don't get the phrasing. You can only "sell" Philly on that if Butler makes it clear he's not staying. That tweet makes it sound like they are trying to sell Philly on not signing Butler even if he would stay and taking whatever random 1st round pick someone gives Houston for one of those players.
Well he's 25 and they have a boatload of unspent $. I guess they can just not spend to the cap this year if that's what you would prefer.
I would prefer that the C's not tie up their money in a guy who has no clear fit on the Celtics roster or, really, Stevens system. Contrary to what has been posted in this forum, he is roughly an average defender and is NOT a rim protector. He also cannot shoot outside the paint.
Or they could use that cap on better players. It's not like the options are Capela or nothing. I mean if you're using cap on a center why would you pick Capela over Vucevic, who will yes, be somewhat more expensive, but is also a far superior player
Vucevic at playing 29 doesn't really fit the timeline for the Celtics, though
The only real deal between Indiana and Boston that makes any sense is Hayward for Turner, outside that the fit just doesn't exist. You really can't start Sabonis, Walker, and Hayward, because the resulting lineup could never score enough points to be a net positive. There are just too many guys you'd need to hide defensively. And only one Marcus Smart to go around (honestly with those three starting you'd need to bring Tatum off the bench so that Brown can keep Marcus from killing someone). In Indiana they have the personnel necessary to limit his defensive responsibilities which makes him an asset. Boston, alas, does not.
Any timeline beyond 4 years in the NBA might as well not exist, player movement means it's basically impossible to predict
Without being too flippant, one has little or no choice about coming here, the other can pick from a myriad of teams.
