Good opportunity for Bazemore. I've watched him since college, he's a really good dude. Got his college bobblehead in my office.
And he got Steph Curry and UA together. Which led UA to reward Bazemore's alma mater with gear.
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And he got Steph Curry and UA together. Which led UA to reward Bazemore's alma mater with gear.
What about Brogdon? not as flashy Russell but an excellent shooter and defender that can handle point. He's just starting to enter his prime and has improved every year from his ROY win.
https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2019/06/building-the-2019-20-boston-celtics-heres-why-malcolm-brogdon-would-make-sense-as-a-free-agent-target.html
I'm a big proponent of Brogdon. Very very solid NBA player in just about every way. Not flashy and not a "star" but absolutely a rock solid player that would help on both ends of the floor.
If they could sign&trade Horford for Capela, and then add Brogdon, and roll with Brogdon/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Capela, that would be a pretty solid starting five.
Brogdon would be nice but I doubt the Bucks let him walk. They need his skillset on that team.
I really don't get Capela at all on the Celtics though that line-up is ok. I think the guy will put up significantly worse numbers playing away from solid outside shooters. Absent Brogdon or finding more scoring, the Celtics just don't have much outside shooting.
Agree on Capela being a questionable fit. He doesn't pass, he doesn't shoot. That's not how this team gets to the next level.
I’d prefer him to Russell, but the Bucks are almost certain to match to keep Antetokounmpo happy. Brooklyn is looking to sign two max players, so you make the max offer to Russell as a defensive move, either the Nets have to let him go or let go of their offseason plans.
I assume the Hawks view the deal as addition by subtraction — they just drafted two wings and probably figure Bazemore wouldn’t be content to cede minutes to them, especially if he’s better than one or both of them. Hunter is a more limited player but is also more likely to embrace a limited role.
Btw, that’s not a knock on Bazemore’s character — it’s admirable that he’s not content to sit on his ass and cash oversized paychecks.
Kawhi and the Clippers meeting tentatively scheduled for July 2nd is what I’m hearing. LA has a home court advantage but Toronto can get him another title next year.
--Frank Isola
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--Frank Isola
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I don't think Bazemore is the superior player, they are different players, Bazemore basically just shoots 3, Turner doesn't shoot well, but he can run backup PG duties, and the Hawks need a ball handler, but have plenty of shooting. Also, last year I would say Turner was the better player. Over a longer sample (which includes Turner's awful year 2 years ago) I think they are a similar level of player but add different strengths on offense
Frankly, I think that both guys should be insulted by the guy that they were traded for.
Per Keith Smith on twitter, the Celtics are potentially looking at the following RFAs: Malcolm Brogdon, Thomas Bryant, and Tomas Satoransky
https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1143322099890761734
https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1143322099890761734
There's a number where Milwaukee would probably walk away from Brogdon, but I'm not sure what it is. They'd probably match anywhere up to $20MM AAV, but after that who knows... $25MM maybe? Would you do that?
It's natural to want to name-czech Jiri Welsch as a comp for his skinny 6'-7" countryman, but the similarities kind of end there, since Satoransky is a much better shooter and qualitatively better ballhandler and passer. Basically Sato is a legit NBA PG, whereas Welsch was a garden-variety wing with no real plus skills at the NBA level.
Career true shooting %
Welsch .508
Satoransky .584
Career assists / turnovers per 36 minutes
Welsch 2.9 / 2.1
Satoransky 6.2 / 1.9
Career net on/off per 100
Welsch -4.4
Satoransky +2.5 (trending up)
I'd be stoked to add Sato if I were you. Heck, I want him on the Warriors as a Shaun (and eventual Andre) replacement, but I doubt we can afford him.
Career true shooting %
Welsch .508
Satoransky .584
Career assists / turnovers per 36 minutes
Welsch 2.9 / 2.1
Satoransky 6.2 / 1.9
Career net on/off per 100
Welsch -4.4
Satoransky +2.5 (trending up)
I'd be stoked to add Sato if I were you. Heck, I want him on the Warriors as a Shaun (and eventual Andre) replacement, but I doubt we can afford him.
I like Satoransky, he was pretty good playing for a terrible Washington team that had basically no starting-caliber frontcourt players. As SRN pointed out, he's a big ball-handler that can also shoot it. I could see him in the 7-8 man rotation for a contender.
I don't see the value of signing a highly paid FA that is not appreciably better than than Brown and Tatum, who you will have to max or almost max out in consecutive years.
Sign an all star max FA, like Russell.
I suspect the Cs are considering significantly different contracts for each guy. Maybe $20/y for Brogdan and $12-13/y for the other two. I also think Brogdon and Sato could give you 20 mpg at the point, meaning they are additions to Brown and Tatum not alternatives.
Satoransky could be a good PG option next to Smart (snarky Jiri Welsch comparison aside).
Bryant feels like a stat compiler on a bad team, but maybe he's just a late bloomer.
Bryant feels like a stat compiler on a bad team, but maybe he's just a late bloomer.
Brogdon makes a ton of sense on a team that has Hayward and Smart, with Tatum and Brown initiating the offense some too. That's a signing where you're basically trying to have everything set up if one of the two young guys makes a leap and Hayward comes back healthy.
The Celtics, I'm told, are emerging as a stealth suitor for Kemba Walker.
--Marc Stein
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--Marc Stein
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And besides, with Kyrie guarenteeing that he's staying, where would we play him?
Kemba would be awesome. Do it.
A star who actually plays hard every night and would likely feed off his first experience with a real NBA franchise.
A star who actually plays hard every night and would likely feed off his first experience with a real NBA franchise.
As a UConn fan, I remember Kemba carrying a bunch of freshman to 5 Big East wins in 5 nights. Playing probably 40 minutes a game. I think he's one of those freak athletes who just will never tire until he's 50.
Bryant was 21 last year. I don't love him or anything, but he showed enough last year that he's interesting. The two things which stand out with him are the low foul rate for a young big, and the excellent free throw percentage.
Renounce Morris, Rozier, and some other guys.
I think *if* the sign Kemba, who's older than Russell, then that signals to me they have a big lined up.
So....renounce everyone you can, sign Kemba, then sign&trade Horford for another big? Because no way can they afford Kemba plus another quality big.
Combining those two things, Anthony Davis could still be available next summer if the Laker situation blows up.
You can't renounce him and do a sign and trade with him (I should have included Horford).
But Kemba has said he *might* take less than the max if it makes sense. Perhaps he takes $28M. That leaves $7M available. They could potentially trade Jaylen Brown as well. There are ways to do it.
I think if they go for older PG then they try to maximize that. A younger PG like Russell and *maybe* they feel a little different. YMMV. Ainge's mileage too.
Yeah, I gotta be honest...the NBA cap rules are just way too complicated to me to follow and understand. So I'll just sit back and watch this all unfold, I suppose!
Love Kemba, he's gotten better each year and would be a nice fit with our current roster, and also seems to understand what being a leader and team player really means. It would be a risk, but signing any max player outside of maybe 3-4 guys is going to be. Bring him in, get some improvement out of Brown/Tatum, get a decent big man and hope Hayward is somewhere between Utah Hayward and last seasons' version, and I really think this team can compete in what should be a wide-open season.
Kemba on a 2-year with a player option is fine by me. But locking him down longterm beyond that I'm not into. Let's see how they can structure it. Renouncing Morris and Rozier is plus for me, I'll drive them to Logan.
They'd have the room exception to use if they signed Kemba which is between 4 and 5 million. They could sign a serviceable big with that kind of money.
I'm partial to Russell partly due to age, and partly (okay, mostly) due to the potential for the narrative that he was who DA wanted all along, and the Kyrie affair was just a long con to serve him up to the Nets and force them to renounce Russell. The prospect of the Nets finally getting their head above water just to implode with Kyrie at the cost of Russell who goes on to succeed with the Js is just too enticing.
I think it's about allocation of resources. I'm personally less than convinced by Russell's high usage, hit every floater season. I'm not sure I'd want to pay him 4/119 over Brogdon at 4/85 or Satoranksy at 3/39 or something. I don't think he's a lock to be significantly better over that period than the other 2, particularly Brogdon.
Bryant is an Arenas rule guy, so his deal would be a weird backloaded thing, which is good and bad.
Two NBA sources confirm @TheSteinLine report that Celtics are seriously interested in @KembaWalker. I doubt the Hornets put this thing to bed pre-emptively when free-agency opens June 30. Plenty of suitors, and I assume Kemba will listen to all the pitches.
--Rick Bonnell, Charlotte Observer
https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/1143600178689183744
--Rick Bonnell, Charlotte Observer
https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/1143600178689183744
On the one hand, the supermax for Kemba would be bad, on the other, Charlotte is barely a professional basketball franchise without him. If they let every FA walk... they're still over the cap and their best player might legitimately be Marvin Williams.
Welsch could at times shoot the 3P so he'd be more valuable playing today than he was back then: https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=AGQ&seasoncode=E2017#!careerstats
Stein now says Boston and Dallas are the frontrunners to sign Kemba if he leaves Charlotte
Shams says Dallas will offer Porzingis the 5 year max(5 years, $158 million) when free agency opens.
Shams says Dallas will offer Porzingis the 5 year max(5 years, $158 million) when free agency opens.
I don't think his tweet meant frontrunners, he said it wasn't stealth, and they'd be at the front of the line trying to lure Kemba away, That to me reads as they will be the 2 most aggressive teams when FA opens, rather than that they are the favorites to sign him.
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