We discussed the Speier reporting earlier, but the mlbtr writeup includes additional info that makes it sound like the Ms are rebuffing everyone and it's not specific to the Sox.
Oh, OK, thanks. I went looking for some earlier discussion and didn't see it. Guess I scrolled too quickly.
We'll have to see if he winds up in the rotation or not. It wouldn't be bad to see Whitlock get similar opportunities if get's back on track either.
They're all individuals. Also the weather/climate of the east coast is a lot more like Japan's. I don't fully get the whole flying time thing -- how often are they going back and forth anyway?
At who? We won't likely know what the Red Sox offered -- it could have been the same, it could have been more. He might just has preferred NY, if this is true
And people keep assuming that you're adding 6+ hours to the flight, coming from Boston vs. LA. It's more like 3-4. I doubt that flying 14-15 hours first class is a deal-breaker, when 11 hours in first class isn't.
That's a contract the Sox better top, I'll just say that. Five years ago that would have seemed utterly insane, but right now that's a price they have to be 100% in on.
This fact occurred to me a few days ago (that Yamamoto would slot it at #2 to start with NYY, his other chief pursuers he'd be expected to be the #1 from day 1), but I have no idea if this helps or hurts NYY. I would think it helps them, somewhat less pressure but the same opportunity to shine, but it really depends on the individual, I think.
Absolutely. We are in the most competitive division we have been in the wild card era and we literally have no rotation. We have Bello, the ghost of all star past with Sale, and the broken toy bin of Houck, Whitlock, Crawford, and Pivetta. Those six almost get you 700 IP! You can't run a successful bullpen if you are asking the bullpen to give you 700+ IP. Snell and Montgomery are above average arms that don't eat innings. They are the exact opposite of what this team needs.
Did Yamamoto meet with all the teams yet? I thought that his meeting with the Sox was today? Athletic write Jen McCaffrey wrote this yesterday: "Yet on Tuesday, there was finally a smidge of news on the Red Sox front. MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand reported that Yamamoto will meet with the Red Sox in the coming days."
Is even that number really bad? He'd be (by xFIP) one of the best pitchers on the team. Of course he's no Nick Pivetta (3.55 xFIP, which was about .25 of a run better than Sale's and it seems most of the board can't wait to get rid of Pivetta).
Over the past 3 years Montgomery has pitched the 17th most innings in baseball. Over the past 2 it's 13th. His post-2020 career is 100% an innings eater profile.
That would be the biggest contract for a pitcher in MLB history. For a guy with 0 MLB innings.
Some combination of Stroman, Imanaga, Montgomery, Snell, and various trade options.
Yeah, what an idiot! The Phillies will never win the most fWAR-per-dollar trophy if he signs Yamamoto!!!
Imanaga is intriguing because he has great stuff, but he’s also always struggled with giving up too many long balls. And he is 30 years old. I think he’d be a much better fit for Citi Field and the Mets than the Sox and Fenway.
Even that feels like it could be a pipe dream. The kids from the Verdugo trade will fill out the rest of our pitching holes and that’ll be that.
I seem to recall Dice-K having a bunch of 1st class airline tix from Boston-Tokyo each year as part of his contract...
Seems like that’s the price of doing business these days and I think you need to play ball at that number if you really think he’s a top of the rotation starter. Obviously we don’t really know how the FO views him but if they think he’s that guy and they want him, then I don’t see much of an option.
The Yankees have so many more giant commitments than the Sox, even before they do Gerrit Cole's next contract and try to retain Soto. I'm sure they can afford to do more, but it will come with the CBT taxes on the end. So in the money battle, the Sox should be willing to top their offer.
By the time you're at that kind of number I think you see if you can stretch in to 12 years to knock down the AAV some. Offer opt outs at age 30 and 35, why not.
His opt-out is confusing people, but assuming he stays healthy and opts out after the season, NY can add 1/36 and keep him, as negotiated in the original deal.
Yup. The Sox will need an ace, whether it’s this year or next. Unless you think you have an ace in the organization already (I don’t), the options are to trade for a cost controlled ace type (Gilbert, Luzardo, Kirby) and you’re probably giving up Mayer or Anthony, or you’re looking at one of the FA options next year, all of whom will command a similar AAV and will all be at least 4-5 years older than Yamamoto *and* will most likely require a draft pick as they’ll probably have a QO attached (except for Burnes, most likely).
It's not my money either. But these guys operate on a budget, and money spent on player X is money they can't spend on player Y.
