Offseason rumors

[DeadlySplitter]

And I think that'd be an overall good path, and maybe you splurge on Sasaki next offseason the way that's going. (I assume everyone will be in on him, but we could maybe then offer him the highest extension?)

Even if Montgomery / Lugo have below-median outcomes, the rotation is still full of #3s with a couple of upside of #2s, that's a monumental improvement over the past couple of seasons. You can wait to see if you have a true core of prospects that can contend before pushing the chips in for a #1.

The fanbase at large would probably mock it, but I'd be fine waiting 1-2 more years on this window opening.

 

[kazuneko]

As a little of an "outside the box" approach, I could see guys like Bello (and Garrett) really flourishing if the Sox did something like signed Matt Chapman for 3b, Amed Rosario for 2b (where he at least last year appeared to be a heck of a lot better at 2b than SS, which is somewhat intuitive) with a full season of Story at SS. Not sure where we'd match up with Miami for a trade (or if they'd give up Garrett) but along with signing Montgomery (also a top 30 pitcher in GB% last year among those with 150ip or more) could make some sense.

I think this hasn't been given the consideration it probably deserves.
Chapman is the RHB this team needs, while providing the clearest improvement to the team's defense that one signing could give them. Shifting Devers to DH makes his $300 million dollar contract appear exorbitant, but the goal is to improve the team, not justify past contracts. Except for 2019 (when he put up an inexplicable +17 OAA) Devers has been consistently subpar in the field, putting up a -9 OAA just last year. Seven years into his career, I think it's time to accept that Devers is who he has been for 6 of those years: the worst fielding 3b in baseball. Chapman, who is +39 for his career from 3b, would be a massive upgrade..

 

[bosockboy]

I think this hasn't been given the consideration it probably deserves.
Chapman is the RHB this team needs, while providing the clearest improvement to the team's defense that one signing could give them. Shifting Devers to DH makes his $300 million dollar contract appear exorbitant, but the goal is to improve the team, not justify past contracts. Except for 2019 (when he put up an inexplicable +17 OAA) Devers has been consistently subpar in the field, putting up a -9 OAA just last year. Seven years into his career, I think it's time to accept that Devers is who he has been for 6 of those years: the worst fielding 3b in baseball. Chapman, who is +39 for his career from 3b, would be a massive upgrade..

100% agree.

 

[Sandy Leon Trotsky]

I think this hasn't been given the consideration it probably deserves.
Chapman is the RHB this team needs, while providing the clearest improvement to the team's defense that one signing could give them. Shifting Devers to DH makes his $300 million dollar contract appear exorbitant, but the goal is to improve the team, not justify past contracts. Except for 2019 (when he put up an inexplicable +17 OAA) Devers has been consistently subpar in the field, putting up a -9 OAA just last year. Seven years into his career, I think it's time to accept that Devers is who he has been for 6 of those years: the worst fielding 3b in baseball. Chapman, who is +39 for his career from 3b, would be a massive upgrade..

Chapman's bat isn't exactly great though. I wouldn't be opposed to it but it seems a lateral move (get it....) that would improve the general team, but just marginally. I'd also rather go with Imanaga over Lugo to pair with Montgomery. It'd be a solid rotation that once again hinges on the health and effectiveness of....... Chris Sale..... which I think breaking the bank on Yamamoto would go a long way towards not having to hope on that. My absolute hope is they just say F! it and overpay for Yamamoto ($35M/per for 10 years with an opt-out after 3 or 4) and then deal for one of the Seattle guys (plenty discussed here) or Milwaukee package that includes Adames.

 

[YTF]

I think this hasn't been given the consideration it probably deserves.
Chapman is the RHB this team needs, while providing the clearest improvement to the team's defense that one signing could give them. Shifting Devers to DH makes his $300 million dollar contract appear exorbitant, but the goal is to improve the team, not justify past contracts. Except for 2019 (when he put up an inexplicable +17 OAA) Devers has been consistently subpar in the field, putting up a -9 OAA just last year. Seven years into his career, I think it's time to accept that Devers is who he has been for 6 of those years: the worst fielding 3b in baseball. Chapman, who is +39 for his career from 3b, would be a massive upgrade..

I'll admit that going from a tin glove to a platinum glove sounds great but at what cost when you are still going to need two top en d guys in the rotation?

 

[bloodysox]

The Yankees never pursued Ohtani, it was never rumored at all.

They have been in massive pursuit of Yamamoto for a long time, it was reported this week that they had at least one representative at every single one of his starts this year, and they have Hideki Matsui and Masahiro Tanaka coming to his meeting with NY on Monday.

Exactly, I was just saying that the Shohei signing wasn't going to impact the Yankees interest in Yamamoto at all because they weren't interested in Shohei in the first place and they've been all in on Yamamoto for a long time. The only real impact of the Shohei signing is that it makes it less likely that the Dodgers will be willing to sign Yamamoto for an insane figure out of desperation.

It would be so disastrous if Yamamoto goes to the Yankees... the Sox desperately need to sign him for so many reasons. If the Yankees manage to add Yamamoto and Soto, we're going to be fucked for a long time. The AL East is hard enough to complete in as is, and if we miss out on a huge opportunity to upgrade our rotation it's going to make it much harder (especially if the Yankees get him).

 

[BaseballJones]

The Sox really don't need NYY adding one of the best young hitters in the sport, and one of the best young pitchers in the sport.

 

[Petagine in a Bottle]

Yamamoto isn’t the only good pitcher / player available now, or in the future. I remember the same kind of panic when the Yankees landed Contreras. There are many ways the Sox can improve their team in the short and long term; acquiring Yamamoto is one way but not the only way.

 

[TSC]

For a rumor thread, this thread has a shocking lack of rumors despite a high amount of posts.

 

[Mike473]

Yamamoto isn’t the only good pitcher / player available now, or in the future. I remember the same kind of panic when the Yankees landed Contreras. There are many ways the Sox can improve their team in the short and long term; acquiring Yamamoto is one way but not the only way.

I think they will do something. I want to believe they will. But, the pessimist in me keeps thinking the Red Sox won't do much, and we will have to make do with what he have, along with some low risk moves in some areas.

 

[YTF]

For a rumor thread, this thread has a shocking lack of rumors despite a high amount of posts.

Stop posting facts in a rumor thread.

 

[Sandy Leon Trotsky]

I think they will do something. I want to believe they will. But, the pessimist in me keeps thinking the Red Sox won't do much, and we will have to make do with what he have, along with some low risk moves in some areas.

That Chris Sale contract (along with some other misses the prior several years) must have really left a stink in the room for Henry if this is the case. They seem to at least be signaling that they're over that and know they can't "Tampa-Bay" and that the "Bloom-way" (rebuild but 'kinda compete depending on health/luck') isn't working from their perspective either.

 

[Daniel_Son]

Chapman's bat isn't exactly great though. I wouldn't be opposed to it but it seems a lateral move (get it....) that would improve the general team, but just marginally. I'd also rather go with Imanaga over Lugo to pair with Montgomery. It'd be a solid rotation that once again hinges on the health and effectiveness of....... Chris Sale..... which I think breaking the bank on Yamamoto would go a long way towards not having to hope on that. My absolute hope is they just say F! it and overpay for Yamamoto ($35M/per for 10 years with an opt-out after 3 or 4) and then deal for one of the Seattle guys (plenty discussed here) or Milwaukee package that includes Adames.

He's been average or better at the plate throughout his career (117 career OPS+). Heck, even if he replicated last year... a 108 OPS+ with 20ish home runs and gold-glove defense would be more than a marginal improvement. An infield of Chapman, Story, a more experienced Casas, and Reyes/Valdez (though I hope they can do better) would do a ton to help the pitching staff.

 

[Sandy Leon Trotsky]

He's been average or better at the plate throughout his career (117 career OPS+). Heck, even if he replicated last year... a 108 OPS+ with 20ish home runs and gold-glove defense would be more than a marginal improvement. An infield of Chapman, Story, a more experienced Casas, and Reyes/Valdez (though I hope they can do better) would do a ton to help the pitching staff.

I guess I wasn't clear- for what he's likely to cost (and how that cost affects the overall budget- which like it or not, their clearly IS a budget)- is it a good allocation of resources knowing that the weaknesses are starting pitching, starting pitching and 2B. Any marginal improvement that Chapman creates there over Devers isn't worth it if the other issues aren't addressed, and from what I can tell... those fixes are going to be costly in both $ and prospects.

 

[BornToRun]

For a rumor thread, this thread has a shocking lack of rumors despite a high amount of posts.

I die a little inside every time this thread gets bumped and it’s not with an embedded tweet.

 

[InsideTheParker]

Sorry @BornToRun I feel the same way about non-news in the Rumor thread, or even any fresh rumors, but I had to ask: Why are people not mentioning Imanaga, when there was interest in him earlier?

 

[JM3]

I die a little inside every time this thread gets bumped and it’s not with an embedded tweet.

Ok, allow me to rumor things up real quick (even if none of it is that exciting)

View: https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1734263836578894023


In this MLB Network spot, Morosi says tons of teams are in on Yamamoto, but the 3 he mentioned by name were the Giants, Red Sox & Yankees (who are meeting with Yamamoto today).

He discussed the Tyler O'Neill trade & seemed to think he would be a great change of scenery guy. The proposed lineup MLB Network put up on the screen for the Red Sox was:

CF Duran (L)
3B Devers (L)
1B Casas (L)
SS Story (R)
DH Yoshida (L)
RF Abreu (L)
LF O'Neill (R)
2B Valdez (L)
C Wong (R)

He discussed the Tyler Glasnow market & mentioned the Dodgers, Cubs & Giants as options, but mostly focused on the Dodgers.

& finally he said he thought it was likely that Jordan Montgomery would get a 5-year deal & mentioned that the Red Sox have home field advantage as he is there for the Winter & we can show him the city's passion & their resolve and commitment to get back to the playoffs.

 

[chawson]

Ok, allow me to rumor things up real quick (even if none of it is that exciting)

View: https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1734263836578894023


In this MLB Network spot, Morosi says tons of teams are in on Yamamoto, but the 3 he mentioned by name were the Giants, Red Sox & Yankees (who are meeting with Yamamoto today).

He discussed the Tyler O'Neill trade & seemed to think he would be a great change of scenery guy. The proposed lineup MLB Network put up on the screen for the Red Sox was:

CF Duran (L)
3B Devers (L)
1B Casas (L)
SS Story (R)
DH Yoshida (L)
RF Abreu (L)
LF O'Neill (R)
2B Valdez (L)
C Wong (R)

He discussed the Tyler Glasnow market & mentioned the Dodgers, Cubs & Giants as options, but mostly focused on the Dodgers.

& finally he said he thought it was likely that Jordan Montgomery would get a 5-year deal & mentioned that the Red Sox have home field advantage as he is there for the Winter & we can show him the city's passion & their resolve and commitment to get back to the playoffs.

Glasnow does seem like a great fit for the Dodgers now. Basically a Shohei-caliber arm under contract for the one year Shohei can’t pitch.

 

[simplicio]

He's been average or better at the plate throughout his career (117 career OPS+). Heck, even if he replicated last year... a 108 OPS+ with 20ish home runs and gold-glove defense would be more than a marginal improvement. An infield of Chapman, Story, a more experienced Casas, and Reyes/Valdez (though I hope they can do better) would do a ton to help the pitching staff.

I'd say there's cause for concern about the way he went about that 108 OPS+ though, it's totally propped up by 2 great months, and one of those was fueled by a .485 BABIP. He couldn't get higher than a 75 WRC+ the other 4 months of the year.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Ok, allow me to rumor things up real quick (even if none of it is that exciting)

View: https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1734263836578894023


In this MLB Network spot, Morosi says tons of teams are in on Yamamoto, but the 3 he mentioned by name were the Giants, Red Sox & Yankees (who are meeting with Yamamoto today).

He discussed the Tyler O'Neill trade & seemed to think he would be a great change of scenery guy. The proposed lineup MLB Network put up on the screen for the Red Sox was:

CF Duran (L)
3B Devers (L)
1B Casas (L)
SS Story (R)
DH Yoshida (L)
RF Abreu (L)
LF O'Neill (R)
2B Valdez (L)
C Wong (R)

He discussed the Tyler Glasnow market & mentioned the Dodgers, Cubs & Giants as options, but mostly focused on the Dodgers.

& finally he said he thought it was likely that Jordan Montgomery would get a 5-year deal & mentioned that the Red Sox have home field advantage as he is there for the Winter & we can show him the city's passion & their resolve and commitment to get back to the playoffs.

If they got Yamamoto and Montgomery, the season can not get here any quicker. That would be a home run offseason.

 

[Auger34]

Ok, allow me to rumor things up real quick (even if none of it is that exciting)

View: https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1734263836578894023


In this MLB Network spot, Morosi says tons of teams are in on Yamamoto, but the 3 he mentioned by name were the Giants, Red Sox & Yankees (who are meeting with Yamamoto today).

He discussed the Tyler O'Neill trade & seemed to think he would be a great change of scenery guy. The proposed lineup MLB Network put up on the screen for the Red Sox was:

CF Duran (L)
3B Devers (L)
1B Casas (L)
SS Story (R)
DH Yoshida (L)
RF Abreu (L)
LF O'Neill (R)
2B Valdez (L)
C Wong (R)

He discussed the Tyler Glasnow market & mentioned the Dodgers, Cubs & Giants as options, but mostly focused on the Dodgers.

& finally he said he thought it was likely that Jordan Montgomery would get a 5-year deal & mentioned that the Red Sox have home field advantage as he is there for the Winter & we can show him the city's passion & their resolve and commitment to get back to the playoffs.

It's interesting that Morosi really seems to think that the Sox all over Yamamoto while other sources don't have them in the presumed top 5. Let's hope Jon is right

 

[Big Papi's Mango Salsa]

It's interesting that Morosi really seems to think that the Sox all over Yamamoto while other sources don't have them in the presumed top 5. Let's hope Jon is right

To be fair, it's not mutually exclusive for both Morosi and the others to be right.

The Red Sox probably are "heavily invested" in landing Yamamoto. I'd be willing to be at some point we hear that he was offered the largest deal in team history. That would certainly imply that they're heavily invested in him, and that he is their top priority.


Also, it very conceivably might not matter. Because others could be hearing that the Red Sox plan to make him an enormous offer and (like Senga) that he wants to go to a team that (at least in the eyes of MLB free agents and players in the game) is much closer to contending, so he isn't interested in the Red Sox offer because others are "close enough" in terms of value.

So (yes, I know, NIgthengale, but) could be hearing that if he's getting offered roughly 10/$350m from the Red Sox, 10/$340m from the Yankees; 10/$330m from the Dodgers and 10/$360m from the Mets, he's most likely to either go to the pure highest bidder OR choose a team that is better set up at the MLB level for the next 4 years or so. (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2023/12/10/shohei-ohtani-rumors-free-agent-mlb-reporters/71867634007/)

That could easily be seen as 1) the Red Sox are making him THEIR priority but 2) he really has no interest in picking the Red Sox, thus they aren't a "finalist". Not at all mutually exclusive, nor unreasonable. Objectively, it's what I think probably is most likely taking place presently.

 

[Auger34]

To be fair, it's not mutually exclusive for both Morosi and the others to be right.

I was speaking mostly of The Athletic reports, which named 5 teams and didn't explicitly include the Red Sox. I think that does run counter to the rest of your post and what Morosi says because he is SPECIFICALLY mentioning the Red Sox.

But YMMV, overall it really doesn't matter. Again, I hope Morosi is right and YY ends up in Boston

 

[jmanny24]

Sorry @BornToRun I feel the same way about non-news in the Rumor thread, or even any fresh rumors, but I had to ask: Why are people not mentioning Imanaga, when there was interest in him earlier?

I've been wondering the same thing, is there any chance they try and get both Japanese pitchers? To me it's imperative they end up with 2 of YY, Montgomery, Imanaga and Lugo. In a vacuum we can say the Sox can't worry about what other teams are doing, but come April that vacuum goes away and they will have to start worrying about it if they want to compete in the division.

 

[HangingW/ScottCooper]

And I think that'd be an overall good path, and maybe you splurge on Sasaki next offseason the way that's going. (I assume everyone will be in on him, but we could maybe then offer him the highest extension?)

Even if Montgomery / Lugo have below-median outcomes, the rotation is still full of #3s with a couple of upside of #2s, that's a monumental improvement over the past couple of seasons. You can wait to see if you have a true core of prospects that can contend before pushing the chips in for a #1.

The fanbase at large would probably mock it, but I'd be fine waiting 1-2 more years on this window opening.

To me, Montgomery would feel like a consolation prize much in the same way Story felt like a consolation prize. I like Montgomery a lot more as the second best pitcher they add this offseason, not the #1 guy. If they instead traded for Burnes instead of signing Lugo and complimented Burnes with Montgomery I'd be a lot happier.

I'm almost certain that Milwaukee says no to this, but if it starts the conversation I'm all ears:

 

[Daniel_Son]

I guess I wasn't clear- for what he's likely to cost (and how that cost affects the overall budget- which like it or not, their clearly IS a budget)- is it a good allocation of resources knowing that the weaknesses are starting pitching, starting pitching and 2B. Any marginal improvement that Chapman creates there over Devers isn't worth it if the other issues aren't addressed, and from what I can tell... those fixes are going to be costly in both $ and prospects.

Right, but it has something of a cascading improvement, no? Adding Chapman upgrades the team defense significantly. Maybe that means they get more out of Montgomery or Snell, or one of the existing SP options. With an elite defense (Chapman at 3B, O'Niel/Rafaela in the outfield), you can field a competitive starting rotation without needing to land a Yamamoto.

 

[YTF]

I was speaking mostly of The Athletic reports, which named 5 teams and didn't explicitly include the Red Sox. I think that does run counter to the rest of your post and what Morosi says because he is SPECIFICALLY mentioning the Red Sox.

But YMMV, overall it really doesn't matter. Again, I hope Morosi is right and YY ends up in Boston

I wonder if the names being dropped at any given time might now be lining up with scheduled team visits.

 

[GPO Man]

To be fair, it's not mutually exclusive for both Morosi and the others to be right.

The Red Sox probably are "heavily invested" in landing Yamamoto. I'd be willing to be at some point we hear that he was offered the largest deal in team history. That would certainly imply that they're heavily invested in him, and that he is their top priority.


Also, it very conceivably might not matter. Because others could be hearing that the Red Sox plan to make him an enormous offer and (like Senga) that he wants to go to a team that (at least in the eyes of MLB free agents and players in the game) is much closer to contending, so he isn't interested in the Red Sox offer because others are "close enough" in terms of value.

So (yes, I know, NIgthengale, but) could be hearing that if he's getting offered roughly 10/$350m from the Red Sox, 10/$340m from the Yankees; 10/$330m from the Dodgers and 10/$360m from the Mets, he's most likely to either go to the pure highest bidder OR choose a team that is better set up at the MLB level for the next 4 years or so. (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2023/12/10/shohei-ohtani-rumors-free-agent-mlb-reporters/71867634007/)

That could easily be seen as 1) the Red Sox are making him THEIR priority but 2) he really has no interest in picking the Red Sox, thus they aren't a "finalist". Not at all mutually exclusive, nor unreasonable. Objectively, it's what I think probably is most likely taking place presently.

If we do indeed offer 10/350 and he goes elsewhere, I would be perfectly ok with that because it would be a sign ownership is letting Breslow spend the money on the right players. I don’t see Breslow as the type to panic and overpay someone else. I bet he moves on to others that he’s interested or wait until the right opportunity presents itself.

 

[YTF]

To me, Montgomery would feel like a consolation prize much in the same way Story felt like a consolation prize. I like Montgomery a lot more as the second best pitcher they add this offseason, not the #1 guy. If they instead traded for Burnes instead of signing Lugo and complimented Burnes with Montgomery I'd be a lot happier.

I'm almost certain that Milwaukee says no to this, but if it starts the conversation I'm all ears:

View attachment 74996

Given the presumed need of 2 top tier pitchers is one year of Burnes 1st prize? Don't get me wrong, Burnes is a guy that I would love to see the Sox get, but it's the one year and with no guarantee moving forward that concerns me as I do not see this team as being in GFIN mode.

 

[SemperFidelisSox]

Nightengale reported yesterday that the Brewers are now expected to keep Burnes.

 

[DeadlySplitter]

To me, Montgomery would feel like a consolation prize much in the same way Story felt like a consolation prize.

He would be a #2. You'd be punting on finding a long-term #1 to 2025-26 (e.g. see if Bello or some other prospect you have already could turn into a #1, see who is available next offseason).

 

[Hank Scorpio]

I wonder how a player who is interested in “winning now” would respond to an offer that has an opt out every year if the team fails to win 85 or 90 games or whatever.

I doubt it would ever happen, because it would complicate a lot of things, and raise concerns on par with the issue of athletes gambling on games. But it’s an interesting thought.

 

[BeantownIdaho]

He would be a #2. You'd be punting on finding a long-term #1 to 2025-26 (e.g. see if Bello or some other prospect you have already could turn into a #1, see who is available next offseason).

If we ended up with a 2,2,2 pitching staff (with Bellow being our 3rd #2 stasrter) I would be okay with that. Montgromery coupled with Imanaga wouldn't necessarily be a bad consolation prize.

 

[YTF]

He would be a #2. You'd be punting on finding a long-term #1 to 2025-26 (e.g. see if Bello or some other prospect you have already could turn into a #1, see who is available next offseason).

The trade route would be another possibility. Perhaps slim, but I would consider Luis Castillo a candidate that might fill the bill. If there's any shot, Breslow may need to be a bit creative to get something done, but Seattle does have a good crop of young pitchers already on the roster and IF they are looking to further reduce payroll there might be an opening here.

 

[GPO Man]

To me, Montgomery would feel like a consolation prize much in the same way Story felt like a consolation prize. I like Montgomery a lot more as the second best pitcher they add this offseason, not the #1 guy. If they instead traded for Burnes instead of signing Lugo and complimented Burnes with Montgomery I'd be a lot happier.

I'm almost certain that Milwaukee says no to this, but if it starts the conversation I'm all ears:

View attachment 74996

I don’t feel that way at all. You do for both YY and Montgomery. If you miss on YY, you move forward with Montgomery as your #2 as planned. He’s not going to be signed as a #1.

 

[nvalvo]

Nightengale reported yesterday that the Brewers are now expected to keep Burnes.

That sounds like a negotiating position to me.

 

[grepal]

As to the earlier post about what do we do if we find out the Sox offered a similar contract and he goes elsewhere..I will be stunned if this isn’t the case. The Sox ownership is extremely PR conscious. If(when?) the Sox lose out on Yamamoto and Ohtani I fully expect that we will get a series of tweets from a Sox friendly writer that was orchestrated from the front office saying that the Sox were willing to go near 500 mill(let’s say Ohtani gets 525-550) and 300 mill on Yamamoto(he gets a little over 300?) but that both players chose locations other than money. Ohtani prefers West Coast, Yamamoto wanted to play where Matsui played., something to this affect.
The insinuation will be that the Sox are willing to spend at the top of the market but the player has to want to play here.

covers their butts against allegations they are cheap, which I think the ownership is very concerned about.

Which is why the Sox can't risk being close to even with best offer, they need to blow him sand either montgomery or Snell out of the water. If not I think we are in for another 5th place season.

 

[Yelling At Clouds]

Different type of rumor-not much discussion on Cora being a lame duck, but alas….

View: https://twitter.com/smittyonmlb/status/1733922545127092499?s=46

Here's some fuel for this fire from Nigtengale - I don't usually trust his stuff, so take fwiw:

Chicago Cubs manager Craig Counsell’s record-setting, five-year, $40 million contract, may last only one year.

Several teams have already expressed strong interest in Red Sox manager Alex Cora, who’s a free agent after the season.

 

[grepal]

100% agree.

Better defense might also be a tie breaker for a top fa pitcher.

 

[JM3]

Is Alex Cora's expiring contract more or less valuable than Nick Pivetta's?

 

[LoLsapien]

Which is why the Sox can't risk being close to even with best offer, they need to blow him sand either montgomery or Snell out of the water. If not I think we are in for another 5th place season.

If we need to trade away MVP Roman Anthony in 2029 to dump the last 4 years of Jordan Montgomery's corpse onto the Dodgers I'm going to be a little bit annoyed is all I'm saying.

 

[LogansDad]

Is Alex Cora's expiring contract more or less valuable than Nick Pivetta's?

Mariners seem to love Servais, otherwise I'd wonder if we could get George Kirby for him.

 

[SoxFanInPdx]

Mariners seem to love Servais, otherwise I'd wonder if we could get George Kirby for him.

Get it done, Theo!

 

[JM3]

Mariners seem to love Servais, otherwise I'd wonder if we could get George Kirby for him.

Lol to answer my own question, I'm pretty sure Pivetta is more valuable.

The Red Sox traded the Blue Jays Mike Aviles to get John Farrell (& David Carpenter).

https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2012/10/red_sox_trade_mike_aviles_for.html

Would be really fascinating if they're actually low key fielding offers, though. Not the best timing for it with most teams having managers that they chose to have manage this season already. David Ross is available, though if they do trade Cora...

 

[bosockboy]

Lol to answer my own question, I'm pretty sure Pivetta is more valuable.

The Red Sox traded the Blue Jays Mike Aviles to get John Farrell (& David Carpenter).

https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2012/10/red_sox_trade_mike_aviles_for.html

Would be really fascinating if they're actually low key fielding offers, though. Not the best timing for it with most teams having managers that they chose to have manage this season already. David Ross is available, though if they do trade Cora...

Definite Breslow/Ross connection.

 

[RedOctober3829]

View: https://twitter.com/feinsand/status/1734541681888772569?s=46&t=IVL2VrlFgLlpc3mjGGto8Q

 

[circus catch]

View: https://twitter.com/feinsand/status/1734541681888772569?s=46&t=IVL2VrlFgLlpc3mjGGto8Q

Huge sigh of relief. I was waiting for some kind of real confirmation that the Sox were in this thing.

 

[NJ_Sox_Fan]

I hate saying the Sox need to sign someone, but I think in this case, the Sox really need to sign someone of significance and YY really would be that ideal person in terms of overall need.

 

[circus catch]

If they get either Yamamoto or Montgomery, I would call that significant. And if they don’t and bring in Snell or someone, that works too. There’s a lot of competition for all of these guys. These aren’t coin flip decisions. Just improve the SP somehow and I’m good.

 

[grepal]

If they get either Yamamoto or Montgomery, I would call that significant. And if they don’t and bring in Snell or someone, that works too. There’s a lot of competition for all of these guys. These aren’t coin flip decisions. Just improve the SP somehow and I’m good.

If they want a chance ro win, and rhey tell us they do, they need both of them plus some offensive tweeks.