Even more bizaare, they beat the Texans who are decent, and Young outplayed StroudWell at least AZ is heading in the right direction.
Honestly still trying to figure out how they won a game.
Even more bizaare, they beat the Texans who are decent, and Young outplayed StroudWell at least AZ is heading in the right direction.
Honestly still trying to figure out how they won a game.
I think the hope is that for some reason there will be one or two coverage miscommunications that leave Pickens wide open - that could lead to 10 points right there.I'm kind of worried about Thursday. A Trubitsky led Steelers offense could easily match the Patriots punt for punt and we could see a game decided on a special teams touchdown or blocked FG or something.
But if we can pull off that loss, I have to think that 60% number shoots up pretty significantly given the remainder of the schedule.
Let's hope so. Hitting double digits has proven to be an insurmountable advantage lately.I think the hope is that for some reason there will be one or two coverage miscommunications that leave Pickens wide open - that could lead to 10 points right there.
Pickens will go 7/150/1 and Thornton will have a ball bounce off his face mask leading to the pivotal game-losing INT.I think the hope is that for some reason there will be one or two coverage miscommunications that leave Pickens wide open - that could lead to 10 points right there.
The Steelers D will chew them up.Let's hope so. Hitting double digits has proven to be an insurmountable advantage lately.
If it comes down to a special teams game, I have confidence that we can lose. The ST have been better this year but still aren't anything great.I'm kind of worried about Thursday. A Trubitsky led Steelers offense could easily match the Patriots punt for punt and we could see a game decided on a special teams touchdown or blocked FG or something.
But if we can pull off that loss, I have to think that 60% number shoots up pretty significantly given the remainder of the schedule.
I don't see him as a huge downgrade at all and wasn't trying to imply that. They're both awful.Confused why people think Trubisky is some big downgrade. The Steelers aren't worse with him than Pickett, honestly in a real competiton he might beat out Pickett.
Interestingly according to Tankathon, NE and Car currently have the same SOS. Division and conference wouldn't come into play in that scenario nor would H2H. Best record in common games, min of 4, would be next followed by strength of victory.First tiebreaker is SOS for draft position. Pretty unlikely two teams will have exact SOS though it is possible which then goes to standard playoff tiebreakers, Div/Conf/H2H etc.
The thing Pickett does as well as anyone is not turn the ball over. He's not being asked in this offense to make plays on his own. He's got a total of 4 ints on the season (only 6tds), and he has only fumbled the ball twice all season.The CIN game was the first game post Canada who shoulders a lot of the blame in PIT and they did have over 400 total yards offense that game.
Obviously the AZ game doesn't count since he was knocked out with 1/2 the game to play. I don't think Pickett is good but I do think he is better than Trubisky especially for a game Trubisky will have had no practice reps before starting. Those zero INTs are important on the Pickett stat sheet as I fully expect Thursday to be a defensive slopfest with the team turning it over the most losing. Neither offense is marching the football 80+yds consistently.
This sounds like we need to root for a Carolina win, and keep rooting for the Bills to lose?Interestingly according to Tankathon, NE and Car currently have the same SOS. Division and conference wouldn't come into play in that scenario nor would H2H. Best record in common games, min of 4, would be next followed by strength of victory.
Pretty much root for any team we played that they don't to lose. They have the Saints and Falcons the next 2 weeks, so there's a chance, but then it's Packers and Jags before ending with Buccaneers. So 3 games they have a puncher's chance in.This sounds like we need to root for a Carolina win, and keep rooting for the Bills to lose?
If we draft MHJ I will consider it an abject organizational failure.Mel on Daniels. If we don't end up with Williams or Maye do we draft Daniels or Harrison Jr.?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/insider/story/_/id/39033068/jayden-daniels-lsu-tigers-2024-nfl-draft-scouting-report-projection-pick-heisman
Any good snippets for us poor folk?Mel on Daniels. If we don't end up with Williams or Maye do we draft Daniels or Harrison Jr.?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/insider/story/_/id/39033068/jayden-daniels-lsu-tigers-2024-nfl-draft-scouting-report-projection-pick-heisman
My biggest question from this article is how on earth does Mel have seven QB prospects ranked ahead of Penix?Mel on Daniels. If we don't end up with Williams or Maye do we draft Daniels or Harrison Jr.?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/insider/story/_/id/39033068/jayden-daniels-lsu-tigers-2024-nfl-draft-scouting-report-projection-pick-heisman
Once you get to "not gonna be an NFL starting QB" it doesn't really matter what order.My biggest question from this article is how on earth does Mel have seven QB prospects ranked ahead of Penix?
I’d imagine neither guy will be around in later rounds.No problem. They’ll miss out on the top 2 QBs and just grab Penix or Daniels or someone in one of the later rounds.
Some good QB will be. No problem.I’d imagine neither guy will be around in later rounds.
Eh. Even if they slide to #5, Williams-Maye-MHJ going #1-3 means either Daniels or Fashanu will be a Patriot.They will win enough games to miss out on MHJ.
We may end up, with luck, with an Andy Dalton or a Derek Carr. Is 4-5 wins this season worth it?Some good QB will be. No problem.
I was being sarcastic. Have people saying that they'll pick a WR or LT in the top 5 and then grab some good QB later in the draft, no problem.We may end up, with luck, with an Andy Dalton or a Derek Carr. Is 4-5 wins this season worth it?
That's true of anyone in this draft not named Williams, and opinons are not unanimous on him, either.We may end up, with luck, with an Andy Dalton or a Derek Carr. Is 4-5 wins this season worth it?
That's true of anyone in this draft not named Williams, and opinons are not unanimous on him, either.
But Dalton? A decade of competence and stability at the most important position? That's a pretty good draft.
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A lot can change between now and draft day, I'm a Daniels guy and I'm increasingly worried he won't be there at 3 let alone 5 or 6.Eh. Even if they slide to #5, Williams-Maye-MHJ going #1-3 means either Daniels or Fashanu will be a Patriot.
If Pats lose the next 3 and go into Jets game on 3 losses, here are the 4-win teams:Next three are Chiefs/Broncos/Bills. Strong chance of three losses there.
Final game vs Jets will probably be the difference between picking 2nd and picking 5th/6th.
And if they like Daniels more than who's available they might be able to slide back a spot or 2, depending on who wants what.Yeah so ideally the Patriots lose out and get 2nd choice of Williams/Maye.
In other scenarios where they drop, I think you're likely looking at 3rd QB (Daniels, unless someone LOVES him then Williams/Maye in play), MHJ, Fashanu, Alt. Also, you're well positioned to trade up for one of the QBs depending who is ahead of you (ARI trading back is most likely)
If you’re going that route, and it’s possible at least, then you come off 1 get those two and pick up the extra assets. What a jump if Fields is really capable.And if they like Daniels more than who's available they might be able to slide back a spot or 2, depending on who wants what.
Also, is there a world where the Bears get 1 and 5 and decide they like Fields enough to give him Harrison and Alt/Fashanu?
My general feel for this draft is that's not likely. I think every QB you feel better about than Mac Jones as a prospect is going top 10. I guess hypothetically if you end up at 2 you could trade to 4 hope you get the 3rd QB there, then trade future picks for a late 1st, but I doubt it.I was hoping they'd get #2 so they could trade down a bit and pick up a couple of good assets. They need so much help. At this point, if they could get 2 first rounders to and draft a WR, OT, and QB in the first 35 picks or so. i'd be happy. Then bring back Zappe or mediocre vet on a 2 year deal, and we can be back to a mediocre, but at least developing team.
I don't believe any QB they draft is going to be a starter next season.
You understand that if they’re drafting outside the top 2 that we’ll all be drinking the Kool-Aid next year, yes?Eh. Even if they slide to #5, Williams-Maye-MHJ going #1-3 means either Daniels or Fashanu will be a Patriot.
I bet Bill (like a few draft experts) has Arnold higher than his teammate, which would piss people off even more.You understand that if they’re drafting outside the top 2 that we’ll all be drinking the Kool-Aid next year, yes?
Just trying to find a silver lining. Like everyone, I will be delighted if he uses a #5 pick for someone whose name I recognize.You understand that if they’re drafting outside the top 2 that we’ll all be drinking the Kool-Aid next year, yes?
Yeah, it would be hilarious if he traded down and took Arnold in round 1 followed by someone like Verse in round 2 and then watch the team go 10-7 by winning a bunch of 10-6 games.I bet Bill (like a few draft experts) has Arnold higher than his teammate, which would piss people off even more.
Dean Janikowski out of Wash State.Just watch Bill draft a PK in the first round....
Better a PK than Punter Disarray Guy.Dean Janikowski out of Wash State.