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We'll never know what discussions took place but I'm surprised Dallas didn't add a WR. Lesser extent same with the Packers.
 

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That’s a great trade for the Bills. I don’t think they absolutely needed to make that kind of move - I honestly really like what I’ve seen from Singletary this year and Cook looked serviceable on Sunday, but Hines is a much better player than Moss and maybe an increased threat of throwing to their RBs adds another wrinkle to keep the offense fresh as the seasons goes on.
 

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I wonder if the compensation Pitt got for Claypool screwed up other WR deals. It's crazy that Houston didn't get something for Cooks...
 

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yeah a high #2 in a draft loaded with good skill position players, esp WR. Virtual guarantee that there is a better WR available at that pick than what Claypool offers.
Not to pick at a scab but NKeal Harry was a first rounder. There will certianly be great WRs drafted in round two and later but picking them is hard.
 

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Probably belongs here as well as the thread in P&G.

HOFer Ray Guy passed away at 72. Tough to imagine we'll see another punter in the HOF, right?
Kickers/Punters on the intial list of eligibles for 2023

PUNTERS/KICKERS (10): Gary Anderson (K), Jason Elam (K), Jeff Feagles (P), Jason Hanson (K), John Kasay, (K), Sean Landeta (P), Shane Lechler (P), Ryan Longwell (K), Pat McAfee (P), Matt Turk (P).
 

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Kickers/Punters on the intial list of eligibles for 2023

PUNTERS/KICKERS (10): Gary Anderson (K), Jason Elam (K), Jeff Feagles (P), Jason Hanson (K), John Kasay, (K), Sean Landeta (P), Shane Lechler (P), Ryan Longwell (K), Pat McAfee (P), Matt Turk (P).
As far as punters go, Lechler wouldn't be a horrible choice.
 

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His last pass on Sunday was a 40 yard throw that the defender made a very nice play on. It was a decent throw. This was 2 throws after the play where he may have been injured. Of course, his first play after he may have been injured, he needed 17 yards and only threw it 10 and immediately grabbed the elbow and was opening his hand.
 
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There won’t be enough Genesee in production to heal Bills fans if he has a torn ligament. It will also likely rob us of another Buff-KC AFCCG with both Allen and Mahomes at the peak of their powers, which would be a shame.
 

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I said to my son last night that I thought Allen might have a UCL tear after watching him grab the elbow and flex his hand after a few throws. It didn’t look good at all.
 

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Didn't Allen have a UCL injury in 2018? It's not the same as a MLB pitcher injury. My amateur internet sleuthing says this is a multi-week injury, but not season ending?
 

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Didn't Allen have a UCL injury in 2018? It's not the same as a MLB pitcher injury. My amateur internet sleuthing says this is a multi-week injury, but not season ending?
Here's a scientific journal article from 2010, with an abstract that says, "A total of 10 cases of UCL injuries in quarterbacks were identified starting in 1994. Nine cases were treated nonoperatively and the mean return to play was 26.4 days," and "UCL injuries of the elbow are uncommon injuries in professional quarterbacks. This group of overhead athletes can be successfully treated nonoperatively, in contrast to baseball players, who more commonly need surgical reconstruction to return to competitive play. The difference between the 2 groups of overhead athletes is most likely secondary to biomechanics and demand."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20609599/
 

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Didn't Allen have a UCL injury in 2018? It's not the same as a MLB pitcher injury. My amateur internet sleuthing says this is a multi-week injury, but not season ending?
Depends on the injury. If it's a complete tear he will need surgery and miss a year plus
 

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If it was a tear, could he have thrown that 60 69 yard bomb that Gardner broke up at the end of the game? I'm not so sure.

Edit: Went back and looked -- he threw it from his 11 yard-line to the Jets's 20!
 

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Am I remembering correctly that a torn UCL in pitchers affects control and not velocity?
 

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Isn't he on the list of "vets that signed with the Patriots but retired"?
I saw on his wikipedia page that he was a Patriot for a week in May 2019 but retired. Later in 2019, he unretired and played for Green Bay and then Indy before retiring for good.
 

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There won’t be enough Genesee in production to heal Bills fans if he has a torn ligament. It will also likely rob us of another Buff-KC AFCCG with both Allen and Mahomes at the peak of their powers, which would be a shame.
Allen needs to make a championship game first.
 

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Allen needs to make a championship game first.
People have memory holed that that wasn’t the AFCCG, I have heard that more than once and neither team made the SB. It’s kind of a weird psychological phenomenon. Pour one out for Burrow and the Bengals.
 

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There won’t be enough Genesee in production to heal Bills fans if he has a torn ligament. It will also likely rob us of another Buff-KC AFCCG with both Allen and Mahomes at the peak of their powers, which would be a shame.
Allen needs to make a championship game first.
People have memory holed that that wasn’t the AFCCG, I have heard that more than once and neither team made the SB. It’s kind of a weird psychological phenomenon. Pour one out for Burrow and the Bengals.
He…literally did the season before
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