It's like obscenity. I laugh when I see it.twibnotes said:Of course not, but it's rare and was regrettable when others did it too.
redsahx said:So you're going to equate Julian Edelman pointing for a first down with Sherman seeking out a player and getting in his face with a choke sign at the end of a conference championship game? Seriously?
Sherman's antics stand out. That was probably the most classless thing I have seen a player do in any sport.
E5 Yaz said:I've always liked the axiom, "Act like you've been there before." Choke signs, or what Lowe did, or Sherman getting up in Brady's face a year ago after Seattle's win don't do much for me. You won the game. At that point, what's the big deal about rubbing it in further?
Devizier said:Who gives a fuck about Sherman? These guys go out and destroy each other for 60 minutes, they earn the right to talk shit when they back it up. I think the league needs more Shermans. I only wish his name was William Tecumseh.
Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:All the Sherman talk is obscuring the real story, which is that Kaepernick had bad turnovers on their last three possessions. He played great to get them this far in the playoffs but that was one of the most epic crunchtime QB meltdowns I've seen.
Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat said:Yeah, but he was classy as he sucked
Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:All the Sherman talk is obscuring the real story, which is that Kaepernick had bad turnovers on their last three possessions. He played great to get them this far in the playoffs but that was one of the most epic crunchtime QB meltdowns I've seen.
Tony C said:
Well, except when he scored a TD and took the opportunity to mock Cam Newton.
Oh, really? Tell me more.Devizier said:Harbaugh's quote mangling is completely hilarious, though. Too bad it will be forgotten.
Turrable said:Sherman is a world-class cocksocket and if you don't want him to make a game-winning pick-6 against Manning you're just wrong
Devizier said:Who gives a fuck about Sherman? These guys go out and destroy each other for 60 minutes, they earn the right to talk shit when they back it up. I think the league needs more Shermans. I only wish his name was William Tecumseh.
Pablo Torres who writes for ESPN the Magazine and contributes to NPR and what not has the best take:
Richard Sherman needs to understand that I signed up to watch a bunch of people get brutally injured, not yell at each other.
twibnotes said:All fair, but I don't see wearing it openly as an attractive trait. It's not like a player is a phony for talking on the field and then showing respect off it. That's part of the code/etiquette that the vast majority of NFLers abide by. Sherman isn't just disrespecting his opponent, he's stomping on the norms that have existed in the game for a long, long time. Makes him seem like he thinks he's bigger than the game, and that's so unattractive in the ultimate team sport.
WayBackVazquez said:Why don't they list his 24 on the wonderlic on his wiki page?
I'll quote this because it's the dumbest thing ever written.redsahx said:Sherman's antics stand out. That was probably the most classless thing I have seen a player do in any sport.
CaptainLaddie said:I had quoted a bunch of posts of you ignorant assholes who decided to judge Richard Sherman based on the part of a city he was born in and used it to blame his actions, but instead, I'll say this: if Richard Sherman was white and from small-town Oklahoma, and he said what he did tonight, all of you pricks would have been cheering him. Congrats on exposing yourselves.
There's a lot of ugly in the last four pages of this thread. I genuinely hope that you realize that an emotional football player, after winning an emotional game against their biggest rival, to go to the event which is the pinnacle of his life, isn't some asshole just because he's overly excited about getting there and in the process beating the guy who he spent all night trashtalking with.
At least Richard "Thug" Sherman didn't drop an "fuck" like some guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw8zHUjwvCo
Thanks. This is a great post and puts Sherman's rant in perspective. My initial reaction was less about the trash talking aspect (I generally find it amusing) and more about Sherman's tone, which seemed shrill and inconsistent with a guy who just won a huge game. But, as Pos points out, expecting these guys to transition immediately from being gladiators to politicians is stupid. Obviously, anger is what Sherman uses to get up for competition. Upon further reflection, I get it.Snodgrass'Muff said:Posnanski already has a solid blog post up about the Sherman interview. He also points out that the Harbaugh quote was a line from The Old Man and the Sea.
http://joeposnanski.com/joeblogs/postgame/
This is just dead wrong. The choking sign and endless chirping is obnoxious no matter who says it.I had quoted a bunch of posts of you ignorant assholes who decided to judge Richard Sherman based on the part of a city he was born in and used it to blame his actions, but instead, I'll say this: if Richard Sherman was white and from small-town Oklahoma, and he said what he did tonight, all of you pricks would have been cheering him. Congrats on exposing yourselves.
There's a lot of ugly in the last four pages of this thread. I genuinely hope that you realize that an emotional football player, after winning an emotional game against their biggest rival, to go to the event which is the pinnacle of his life, isn't some asshole just because he's overly excited about getting there and in the process beating the guy who he spent all night trashtalking with.
At least Richard "Thug" Sherman didn't drop an "fuck" like some guys.
Snodgrass'Muff said:You must not watch a lot of sports.
You must not watch a lot of baseball.Snodgrass'Muff said:Guys, we can all stop now. Justin Verlander has weighed in.
I guess taunting players is classless but throwing a baseball at 95+ mph near someone's head is cool.
Boston Brawler said:I indadvertedly may have started some of this shit storm when I asked if Sherman yelled "MOB" in that interview and if he was affiliated with the Bloods. I do some work with a Gang Task Force. MOB ( while also meaning Money Over Bitches) means Member of Bloods and is one of the more common Blood tattoos/phrases. I apologize for causing some of this.
Back on topic, I have more of a problem with Sherman slapping Crabtree on the ass after the play than I do with the post game interview. Of course Crabtreecould have beenwas shit talking all game too and deserved it.
For the record, I said nothing about race, or Compton. I didn't have a problem with the Erin Andrews interview, or in general with Sherman trying to get into players heads before or during a game (which is actually a smart tactical move on his part). Lots of players talk on the field, or after the game (Larry Bird was one of the biggest trash talkers ever). However, I find Sherman getting into a players face after the game or right after a game clinching play and excessively trying to rub it in obnoxious, and in a big game like that I was hard-pressed to think of similar behavior on a similar stage (though obviously I am guilty of hyperbole). If Crabtree had initiated the conversation, that would have been one thing, but Sherman's tendency is to go after guys and follow them. Celebrate with your teammates. Pose for the crowd. Fire a verbal shot in your post game comments if that's how you want to do it. Why try to get up after an opposing player at that point? I thought Crabtree showed real restraint, as I would have taken a swing at Sherman for that.CaptainLaddie said:I'll quote this because it's the dumbest thing ever written.
YOU WIN, REDSAHX!!!!