NBA Top Shot

Scott Cooper's Grand Slam · Feb 27, 2021

I understand the appeal. I think of Kawhi's shot against the Sixers every so often, and then I'll search for this clip: View: https://youtu.be/_OPVgfkzmp8

I can't watch it once. If I see it, I'll probably watch it 3-5 times.

scottyno · Feb 27, 2021

I'm not "collecting" but I'm trying to get some because it seems like getting a pack is almost guaranteed profit right now because the market is so crazy. Just signed up a few days ago so didn't get any yet.

If anyone does already have an account you can get a guaranteed preorder on a $9 pack today if you get in the virtual line and wait however long it takes for them to process thousands of payments. Normally you have to join a lottery for a limited spot in line to get a pack.

djbayko · Feb 27, 2021

scottyno said:
I'm not "collecting" but I'm trying to get some because it seems like getting a pack is almost guaranteed profit right now because the market is so crazy. Just signed up a few days ago so didn't get any yet.

If anyone does already have an account you can get a guaranteed preorder on a $9 pack today if you get in the virtual line and wait however long it takes for them to process thousands of payments. Normally you have to join a lottery for a limited spot in line to get a pack.

It says the line is paused for me. Is it the same for everyone or did I do something wrong? Also, do you know if I can refresh the page or will I lose my place in line?

djbayko · Feb 27, 2021

I guess it’s paused for others too.

scottyno · Feb 27, 2021

djbayko said:
It says the line is paused for me. Is it the same for everyone or did I do something wrong? Also, do you know if I can refresh the page or will I lose my place in line?

Yeah it's paused for everyone, this seems like a dumpster fire, they processed like 5k people in 10-15 minutes and now it's paused "while purchases go through" (what were those 5k people they processed doing if not having their payments processed?).

And I think once you're in line you can't refresh or you'll lose your spot

"Once you’ve joined the queue, please refrain from attempting to join on another tab, browser, device or account. Please don't leave the queue screen. By exiting the page or attempting to get another place in line, you’ll forfeit your spot in line and may be locked out from rejoining the queue for several minutes."

scottyno · Feb 27, 2021

djbayko said:
It says the line is paused for me. Is it the same for everyone or did I do something wrong? Also, do you know if I can refresh the page or will I lose my place in line?

Apparently their own FAQ page is wrong, or they just changed it because now it says "If you’re in the queue and can’t watch the stream, refresh the page (your position is secured). "

djbayko · Feb 27, 2021

scottyno said:
Apparently their own FAQ page is wrong, or they just changed it because now it says "If you’re in the queue and can’t watch the stream, refresh the page (your position is secured). "

Got mine about 50 minutes ago. The queue dropped super fast - about 18k in 10 minutes, and then I was in.

scottyno · Feb 27, 2021

djbayko said:
Got mine about 50 minutes ago. The queue dropped super fast - about 18k in 10 minutes, and then I was in.

You must have got a great spot in line, I'll still be waiting awhile

wade boggs chicken dinner · Mar 3, 2021

I keep seeing articles on this. Congrats to those who got them; seems like a money maker.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/28/230-million-dollars-spent-on-nba-top-shot.html

lovegtm · Mar 3, 2021

wade boggs chicken dinner said:
I keep seeing articles on this. Congrats to those who got them; seems like a money maker.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/28/230-million-dollars-spent-on-nba-top-shot.html

NFTs are one of those things that simultaneously make no sense to me, and seem to be appealing enough to others that I’m actively looking to invest in infrastructure around them.

benhogan · Mar 3, 2021

Is there an App for this?

AlNipper49 · Mar 3, 2021

Not really. You need to go to Top Shots and fund a propriety wallet.

guys I’ve been holding off on this and it’s BIG NEWSfor SoSH. The same NFT folks behind Too Shots have some other properties. One of them in Garbage Pail Kids. We can all buy a licensed digital version of Crater Chris.

There is a NFT company that is not on any real exchange yet that has a deal with the NFL. I’ve been considering finding a way to get it and throwing $10k or whatever at it.

I think NFTs are kind of lame but can’t believe what some of these are being valued at.

lovegtm · Mar 3, 2021

AlNipper49 said:
Not really. You need to go to Top Shots and fund a propriety wallet.

guys I’ve been holding off on this and it’s BIG NEWSfor SoSH. The same NFT folks behind Too Shots have some other properties. One of them in Garbage Pail Kids. We can all buy a licensed digital version of Crater Chris.

There is a NFT company that is not on any real exchange yet that has a deal with the NFL. I’ve been considering finding a way to get it and throwing $10k or whatever at it.

I think NFTs are kind of lame but can’t believe what some of these are being valued at.

Is it that much weirder than buying a real Rolex rather than a perfect fake?

benhogan · Mar 3, 2021

Central banks planting tulips globally

CoffeeNerdness · Mar 3, 2021

Top Shot has zero Rob Williams highlights. Idiots!

Speaking of idiots someone recently bought this for almost $300k:

View: https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/1366238406682894339?s=19

A 10-second video clip just sold for $6 mil:

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN2AT1HG

scottyno · Mar 5, 2021

Anyone do the latest all star drop? If you have an account already and missed it so far it's over 3 parts, 2 were today, last one is tomorrow 10am pacific, $14 pack, great chance you'll get one because if you got one today you aren't eligible tomorrow, and pretty much guaranteed market value of like 20x your purchase minimum if you get a pack

Just a bit outside · Mar 5, 2021

My 17 year old son got one of the $14 packs. Apparently one of them is an Embid dunk going for about $300. Should he sell it right away or hold it?

scottyno · Mar 5, 2021

Just a bit outside said:
My 17 year old son got one of the $14 packs. Apparently one of them is an Embid dunk going for about $300. Should he sell it right away or hold it?

I have no idea what to expect from the market, but they're doing a "challenge" where if you collect and hold 1 of each of the all star cards then you can get a Durant or a Lebron, so it seems like those cards are probably going to go up in value at least short term because of the demand of people trying to make the whole set, so unless you really need the $300 I'd hold on to it at least for now.

I pulled a Tatum which is worth a bit less than the embiid, but really you couldn't lose with any pack and the current market, the cheapest all star is Lavine at $150.

scottyno · Mar 5, 2021

Batman Likes The Sox said:
Still waiting to succeed in getting a first pack. 0 for 2 today. Will be back tomorrow!

Seems like there should probably be 70-80k people tomorrow trying for 60k packs, so pretty good odds

djbayko · Mar 5, 2021

Alarm didn't wake me this morning, so I was too far back in the queue for drop #1. I thought I was golden for drop #2 because I started at around 68,000. But it seems that the dropout rate is a lot lower than it has been in the past because the sale JUST ended right now when I was around 1,000 in line. So I guess it's attempt #3 for me tomorrow :-/

CoffeeNerdness · Mar 6, 2021

You can't even sign-up for an account right now.

djbayko · Mar 6, 2021

CoffeeNerdness said:
You can't even sign-up for an account right now.

Yeah, they disable sign ups around pack drops. Try signing up tonight or tomorrow so you'll be ready for the next one.

CoffeeNerdness · Mar 6, 2021

Good to know, thanks.

scottyno · Mar 6, 2021

Batman Likes The Sox said:
Yep, finally worked out! Got my first pack.

Maybe I'll get lucky and get in on tomorrow's Rising Stars pack too. 5:00 ET.

Yeah that's going to be nuts, $199 pack and limited quantities so the resell price will probably be through the roof. Probably something like 200k people trying for 33k packs

TheBenzingerGame · Mar 7, 2021

I managed to create an account between the outages last night, and then grabbed a single moment as required earlier today. So I believe I'm all set to try and jump in line for the drop today.

Any tips on how best to get through? Should I go with an ethernet connection to maximize speed? Hop on the site right at 4:50 ET and just hit refresh until I'm in? Do they ever open it up earlier than the "ten minutes prior" to the official drop time?

scottyno · Mar 7, 2021

TheBenzingerGame said:
I managed to create an account between the outages last night, and then grabbed a single moment as required earlier today. So I believe I'm all set to try and jump in line for the drop today.

Any tips on how best to get through? Should I go with an ethernet connection to maximize speed? Hop on the site right at 4:50 ET and just hit refresh until I'm in? Do they ever open it up earlier than the "ten minutes prior" to the official drop time?

It's not like that, when you join the drop doesn't matter as long as you're in. Everyone in the drop gets a random number. It's actually open now, so just join and then check back at about 5:01

TheBenzingerGame · Mar 7, 2021

scottyno said:
It's not like that, when you join the drop doesn't matter as long as you're in. Everyone in the drop gets a random number. It's actually open now, so just join and then check back at about 5:01

Ah, got it - thanks!

TheBenzingerGame · Mar 7, 2021

I've got 31,392 ahead of me. Seems like good news...

NJ_Sox_Fan · Mar 7, 2021

I do not understand the appeal in this at all. Buying clips that are readily available on YouTube, ESPN, etc for what exactly?

scottyno · Mar 7, 2021

TheBenzingerGame said:
I've got 31,392 ahead of me. Seems like good news...

I got 32963, so feel free to leave so I can move up

NJ_Sox_Fan · Mar 7, 2021

Batman Likes The Sox said:
I tried to cover this to some extent in the original post, but I think if one considers the same:

What's the point of owning a baseball card that is now readily available to look at (in picture form) on the internet?

So the point, I think, is:

1.Rarity
2.Collecting
3.Showing off your collection to your friends on your phone

Yeah, but a card has a finite number of an actual tangible object produced. If I owned a 52 Mantle, I could physically hold it and show it off. Only a few people can own a physical Mantle. Anyone can have the same experience as the person who owns the video clip by going on YouTube or ESPN or wherever. There is literally nothing unique about the video.

AlNipper49 · Mar 7, 2021

NJ_Sox_Fan said:
Yeah, but a card has a finite number of an actual tangible object produced. If I owned a 52 Mantle, I could physically hold it and show it off. Only a few people can own a physical Mantle. Anyone can have the same experience as the person who owns the video clip by going on YouTube or ESPN or wherever. There is literally nothing unique about the video.

it’s a non-fungible token. It’s actually better than a card since you can ascertain total supply. The number is finite and defined, forever inalienably stamped to the blockchain.

Burkharts Uppercut · Mar 7, 2021

A NFT of Jack Dorsey’s first tweet is going for a cool $2.5 million. People are buying tweets.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/07/tech/jack-dorsey-nft-twitter/index.html

NJ_Sox_Fan · Mar 7, 2021

AlNipper49 said:
it’s a non-fungible token. It’s actually better than a card since you can ascertain total supply. The number is finite and defined, forever inalienably stamped to the blockchain.

I guess agree to disagree. There is nothing appealing to me in owning a video clip that everyone has already seen.

AlNipper49 · Mar 7, 2021

NJ_Sox_Fan said:
I guess agree to disagree. There is nothing appealing to me in owning a video clip that everyone has already seen.

I don’t want them either, but what’s really the material difference than having a baseball card that everyone has seen as well?
In this particular case I don’t like Too Shots because, while there is a defined, finite supply for each moment there isn’t anything necessarily finite about the moments themselves. If they had come out and picked only five moments per player per year that would make more sense to me.

CoffeeNerdness · Mar 7, 2021

Is it true there's no way to pull money out of the market?

NJ_Sox_Fan · Mar 7, 2021

AlNipper49 said:
I don’t want them either, but what’s really the material difference than having a baseball card that everyone has seen as well?
In this particular case I don’t like Too Shots because, while there is a defined, finite supply for each moment there isn’t anything necessarily finite about the moments themselves. If they had come out and picked only five moments per player per year that would make more sense to me.

The difference to me is that a card for example is something you can actually hold.

Or, for example, I can look at a picture of a Lamborghini but I’d far rather be the guy/girl who gets to drive one every day. It’s a totally different experience.

If you own the clip of LeBron dunking against the Celtics from the Cavs/Celtics conference finals, sure, you own it - but your experience with it is the exact same as anyone who has the internet and can watch YouTube.

scottyno · Mar 7, 2021

NJ_Sox_Fan said:
I guess agree to disagree. There is nothing appealing to me in owning a video clip that everyone has already seen.

Everyone's seen the pictures and stats on a regular card too

scottyno · Mar 7, 2021

CoffeeNerdness said:
Is it true there's no way to pull money out of the market?

As of right now some people can, but it takes a while because they're getting a ton of requests

scottyno · Mar 7, 2021

I ended up squeaking out a pack because enough people ahead of me couldn't buy. Got the Rui rising star, which is probably about average, and the Gobert all star which is a bit below average, and 4/5 above average commons including a Tatum and a Brown. No way to tell the profit yet because the market is down so none of the rising stars have been posted.

djbayko · Mar 7, 2021

scottyno said:
I ended up squeaking out a pack because enough people ahead of me couldn't buy. Got the Rui rising star, which is probably about average, and the Gobert all star which is a bit below average, and 4/5 above average commons including a Tatum and a Brown. No way to tell the profit yet because the market is down so none of the rising stars have been posted.

Congrats. I didn't get one today. I would guess that you'll have a large profit with only 2,000 each of those rising stars.

Are you sure it doesn't matter when you join the waiting room before the drop? I know they say spots are randomly assigned, but the only time I've ever seen anyone get good numbrs is when they join immediately after the waiting room opens. It could just be a fluke, I guess. What time did you join today and what # in line were you?

scottyno · Mar 7, 2021

djbayko said:
Congrats. I didn't get one today. I would guess that you'll have a large profit with only 2,000 each of those rising stars.

Are you sure it doesn't matter when you join the waiting room before the drop? I know they say spots are randomly assigned, but the only time I've ever seen anyone get good numbrs is when they join immediately after the waiting room opens. It could just be a fluke, I guess. What time did you join today and what # in line were you?

I mean, they claim its totally random, and I've seen people say on twitter they got great numbers after joining minutes before, but who knows I guess.

I joined about a half hour before the drop, pretty early, and got number 32963 out of 32775 packs available or whatever the number was, so I had to wait it out until the end to see if I'd get one, there were about 300 or so left when I got mine. And yeah, expecting the Rui to be pretty valuable since it's so limited and also part of the current challenge so people will be looking to buy those 9 right away. I'll probably sell it in a few days once the market price stabalizes and I see what it's actually worth and hold the others for now.

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