NBA Playoffs Conference Finals Game Thread

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When you combine the views, it looks like George touched it last.  Pacers fans won't be happy.
 
edit: wow.  Honestly, I changed my mind a few times while watching the replays.  But the angle from directly perpendicular to the sideline (which they only showed once) looked like Miami ball.
 

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They still need to do something about this replay rule where you can check who touched the ball last, but can't call an obvious foul that caused change of possession.
 

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Every year, a Heat player with no range suddenly learns how to hit a few threes in the playoffs.
 
I think what you mean is that every year a seemingly cooked Heat player comes out of nowhere to make a ton of 3s, but guys like Lewis and Mike Miller and Battier and James Jones all have long histories as 3 point shooters. Lewis specifically has the 8th most makes alltime:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fg3_career.html
 
It's hard to believe that George outscored LeBron 37 to 7 in Indiana and Miami still somehow had a chance to win at the end. They could use Birdman back, certainly. 
 

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Although Indy is probably still toast in Miami, this game was very important, since the OKC/SA series is going at least six games, in Miami won this game they would have a long rest to reach their finals opponent, who would have been just off a competitive series. Now, things are going to be a little more even, regardless with what happens.
 

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jon abbey said:
 
I think what you mean is that every year a seemingly cooked Heat player comes out of nowhere to make a ton of 3s, but guys like Lewis and Mike Miller and Battier and James Jones all have long histories as 3 point shooters. Lewis specifically has the 8th most makes alltime:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fg3_career.html
 
It's hard to believe that George outscored LeBron 37 to 7 in Indiana and Miami still somehow had a chance to win at the end. They could use Birdman back, certainly. 
I was referring to Wade tonight during Miami's third quarter surge and Bosh against the Celtics in their ECF. The cooked coming back to life is another nuisance.
 

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Mark Jackson is still so fucking stupid, he says a handful of things that are just factually wrong every game. His pattern is that if he doesn't know something (quite often), he doesn't stop talking but instead essentially guesses using conventional wisdom, which maybe worked before the Internet existed but does not work now. One example from tonight was when early on they were discussing LeBron's virtually never fouling out of games, and Jackson said something like "he just knows how to play with five fouls". Well, um, no, he virtually never gets even three fouls, the point is that he gets called for fouls extremely rarely, at least before tonight. 
 
Maybe that seems nitpicky, but if your job is a basketball announcer, it seems like that is something you should know, about THE BEST PLAYER IN THE GAME. There are a handful of examples every game, that is just one I remembered.
 
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How are you a NBA coach and a national TV announcer and don't know this? It is certainly not news to anyone paying even a tiny bit of attention to the league in recent years, it certainly isn't a brand new trend:
 
"During a rather prolific period last season, James once went 250 consecutive minutes without being called for a foul. During a two-week stretch in 2009, he was called for a total of three fouls in nine games, including five consecutive games without drawing a whistle. A full week of NBA basketball without a single foul.
 
In seven of his 11 seasons, James has averaged fewer than two fouls per game, including this season, when he settled at 1.6, slightly up from his 1.4 last season. In his 153-game playoff career, he's averaged about 2.3 fouls a game."
 
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/10999402/lebron-foul-night-ends-loss
 

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jon abbey said:
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Mark Jackson is still so fucking stupid, he says a handful of things that are just factually wrong every game. His pattern is that if he doesn't know something (quite often), he doesn't stop talking but instead essentially guesses using conventional wisdom, which maybe worked before the Internet existed but does not work now. One example from tonight was when early on they were discussing LeBron's virtually never fouling out of games, and Jackson said something like "he just knows how to play with five fouls". Well, um, no, he virtually never gets even three fouls, the point is that he gets called for fouls extremely rarely, at least before tonight. 
 
Maybe that seems nitpicky, but if your job is a basketball announcer, it seems like that is something you should know, about THE BEST PLAYER IN THE GAME. There are a handful of examples every game, that is just one I remembered.
 
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Funny but Jackson caught my eye with other asinine comments as well. One example.....as Bosh is putting the ball on the floor 25-feet from the basket with LESS than 1 second on the shot clock and George(?) barrels into him for the foul sending Bosh to the line, Jackson responds "Those are the type of fouls a coach doesn't mind." then goes on defending George's poor positioning, poor awareness, and poor decision making given the situation. What?!?!?!?!??
 

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HomeRunBaker said:
Funny but Jackson caught my eye with other asinine comments as well. One example.....as Bosh is putting the ball on the floor 25-feet from the basket with LESS than 1 second on the shot clock and George(?) barrels into him for the foul sending Bosh to the line, Jackson responds "Those are the type of fouls a coach doesn't mind." then goes on defending George's poor positioning, poor awareness, and poor decision making given the situation. What?!?!?!?!??
Yeah. He didn't cover himself with glory there either.

That said, I rarely notice these things with Breen's signature announcing style of calling games with a mouthful of nuts overwhelming all else.
 

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Reggie Jackson with 11 points in the 1st quarter. Don't know why it took Brooks 2 full games to realize that he had to play major minutes.
Jackson played big minutes in the first 3 games.....I wanna say he was close to 40 in Game 3. He didn't get burn last game because he was sucking and their other rotations were working.
 

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This doesn't feel like any adjustments have been made as much as these teams just play way better at home. A Game 7 should be epic.
 

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mpx42 said:
This doesn't feel like any adjustments have been made as much as these teams just play way better at home.
 
Huh? SA made huge adjustments tonight, going away from the two big man Duncan/Splitter lineup for the first time all playoffs. Bonner wasn't the answer, but Diaw was incredible. Also they switched the defensive matchups, Leonard onto Westbrook (Parker previously), Green onto Durant (Leonard previously), Parker onto Jackson (Green previously). 
 

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The obvious countermove for OKC, which SA would pretty much have no answer for, is to bench Perkins in favor of Butler or Lamb, and put Ibaka on Duncan.
 
Also Green is a good defender, but Durant needs to try to take over if those are the defensive matchups. 
 

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Why does Bird care about Lance Stephenson blowing in lebron's ear? Like somehow that's off limits?
I find it kinda funny. Things like that make me like the game more rather than less.
 

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Stephenson goes to the ball, comes an instant late and then it looks as if he wanted to kill Cole...Maybe that wakes up Indiana.
 

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Lance Stephenson, as hard as he plays, probably cost himself some money this series.  I know that he was competing and all that but his antics were pretty bad.
 

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Indiana outscored 47-17 since starting the game up 9-2. Fuck this collection of losers. Somebody else better emerge next year in the Eastern Conference. Sick of LeBron's free ride to the finals.
 
To be fair to the EC, I don't think whoever comes out of the west has much of a chance against Miami, either.
 
Switch has been flipped.
 

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It's so hard to judge, Indiana was probably the 10th or 11th best team in the league going into the playoffs, with the top 9 all out West (the 8 playoff teams and Phoenix). I would favor the Spurs over Miami (especially with home court) and would say Miami/Oklahoma City is about a tossup at this point (again OKC has home court). If OKC can push that series to 7 tonight, that obviously helps MIA. 
 

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As well as OKC has played and they're only up 7 at the half. It will be interesting to see what adjustments Pop makes headed into this third quarter...
 

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Biggest winner tonight is Miami.  Looks like they're getting a gimpy Parker unless he heals by Thursday.  
 

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Pop is making Brooks his bitch.  Unreal how Brooks has allowed Fisher/Jackson/Westbrook to switch and end up on Diaw or Duncan.  
 

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Holy shit, what a block by Ibaka. It looked like Duncan was going to have an easy layup.
 

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Pop is making Brooks his bitch.  Unreal how Brooks has allowed Fisher/Jackson/Westbrook to switch and end up on Diaw or Duncan.  
 
I guess Brooks figured he'd better play his best five guys and worry about matchups later.  What an incredibly gutsy move (if it works).
 

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Marv Albert has quickly turned into one of the worst play by play man.  Consistently behind the the play and often wrong.  Time to put him out to pasture.  
 

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Marv Albert has quickly turned into one of the worst play by play man.  Consistently behind the the play and often wrong.  Time to put him out to pasture.  
Still better than Breen.
 

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Breen is unbearable, give me Tirico or Sager over Albert or Breen any day.
 

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My god, Tim Duncan is a physical freak.  It's just amazing how he's been able to hold up after all these years.  
 

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Tim Duncan at 38, schooling one of the leagues best post defenders on the block in OT in a playoff game. Unreal.