Why Cuban? What did he do (in this specific case)?Rudy Pemberton said:
EDIT: oh I get it. He'll make it happen. nm
As I recall, opinion was divided rather evenly. I remember because I had no opinion and found the debate fascinating.
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EDIT: oh I get it. He'll make it happen. nm
If this was Belichick trying to get a player back like this, the rules would have to be changed.
ESPN sources say Mavs owner Mark Cuban has begun to notify people within the organization that DeAndre Jordan is staying with Clippers
Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) July 9, 2015
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DeAndre Jordan needs an agent certification on contract, invalid without it. Agents are expected to join Clippers, Jordan tonight at house.
Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) July 9, 2015
Oh my god Mark Cuban is me after I got dumped my junior year https://t.co/gL4pzRHkNw
Katie Nolan (@katienolan) July 9, 2015
Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) July 9, 2015
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DeAndre Jordan needs an agent certification on contract, invalid without it. Agents are expected to join Clippers, Jordan tonight at house.
Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) July 9, 2015
Oh my god Mark Cuban is me after I got dumped my junior year https://t.co/gL4pzRHkNw
Katie Nolan (@katienolan) July 9, 2015
Thank god.RedOctober3829 said:
We almost had a thread without a Pats persecution post. Glad you swept in there.
https://twitter.com/blakegriffin32/status/618967776955248640
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Remagellan said:
As I mentioned before when we were talking about Jordan's agent, I don't think this is true. If a team can make a deal with the Kings that will help them, they are going to do it and not care about this. They're not going to not trade for DeMarcus Cousins out of principle.
Let's all remember tonight the next time DJ sits out big 4th qtrs because he can't make a free throw.
Also the only time it really applies is during the moratorium. Any other time of the year a trade goes to the league office right away.moondog80 said:
Doc Rivers outside of DeAndre Jordan's house when Mark Cuban pulls up. pic.twitter.com/k0QfVCFCmk
— Skip Bayless (@FunSkipBayless) July 9, 2015
— Skip Bayless (@FunSkipBayless) July 9, 2015
Not dominoes?
Yahoo Source: Clippers, DeAndre Jordan meeting was short. It was clear he was returning to them. Then they started to play cards.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) July 9, 2015
Yahoo Source: Clippers, DeAndre Jordan meeting was short. It was clear he was returning to them. Then they started to play cards.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) July 9, 2015
Cellar-Door said:
They'd still be at a huge disadvantage if teams won't deal with them during periods like this.
But the whole argument is silly because all teams have a stake in preserving league norms that supersedes their individual interests. It's the reason why Kraft accepted the punishment rather than take the NFL to court.
ifmanis5 said:
Seriously. I don't get why he's considered such an important player. He does a couple of things very, very well: rebounding, shot blocking, and dunking. Probably at an elite level in those areas. But he is poor in many other areas: namely shooting and passing. With the added importance of small ball today, this guy is a nice complementary piece to protect the rim, but not somebody who is a cornerstone of a championship squad. He's nice to have, but I'm not sure he's the guy the Clippers need to advance farther in the playoffs.
On top of that, the free throw shooting is abominable and he comes across as incredibly immature from this debacle. I guess I just don't get why some stories blow up so big in 2015.
It's not about the story. He's one of the best Cs in the league, hands down. His value to the Clippers is arguably higher than to the Mavs. Allowing Griffin to guard 4 provides major rim protection... The kind a championship contender has. With Jordan, they are up there with the Warriors, Spurs, and Cavs as a top tier team. Without, they fall into 2nd group. Add the cap change, and this contract is going to look silly cheap by year 4.GBrushTWood said:
But but IMMATURE. Kliq said so so it's true.nattysez said:
Sports should be amazing and stupid and even a little immature, for god's sake. This night has erupted in fire emojis and been completely can't-miss over a player I don't even like.
Some of you need to go outside. Or retire to your nursing home doubles and continue rotting, whatever.
The story is big not because Jordan is an important player, but because of the overall zaniness of the events that unfolded. Jordan is a pretty good player, but he seems to be crazy and someone that I would not want in my NBA foxhole during a big playoff game. How can you really trust a guy like that?
I was looking forward to seeing the Clips play small ball with Griffin at the five anyways.
I was looking forward to seeing the Clips play small ball with Griffin at the five anyways.
He's really really good.GBrushTWood said:
He's arguably the best rebounder in basketball. He's developed into a good (though a bit overrated) defender, and he's unbelievably efficient on the P&R, on cuts to the basket and he uses possessions at one of the most effective levels in the league. He does all the things a center is supposed to do well, and he does some of them at truly elite levels.
Everyone is worried about Dan Fegan bur wither Chandler Parson's recruiting career?
And for a young guy, Kliq sure is serious about this story. I fucking love it and it makes the dysfunctional, soap-opera that is the Clippers that much more fun to watch. I am guessing that Paul Pierce will either be thinking about another ring or retiring early sometime around January 15th, 2016...
Btw, congrats El Uno. Big Baby never came through for you but Baby Jesus did and it was played out in amazing form on Twitter.
And for a young guy, Kliq sure is serious about this story. I fucking love it and it makes the dysfunctional, soap-opera that is the Clippers that much more fun to watch. I am guessing that Paul Pierce will either be thinking about another ring or retiring early sometime around January 15th, 2016...
Btw, congrats El Uno. Big Baby never came through for you but Baby Jesus did and it was played out in amazing form on Twitter.
Thank you. I have to be honest, the playoffs as a whole killed my interest in the nba. This soap opera WWF, WCW drama today really sucked me in. And so did the overall straight up gangsterness of the clippers, who i have to believe plotted this days before, to go guns blazing on the last day to take dj back.DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:
This whole group is a mess. They wont win a title and i completely understand all the disdain for them (i share a ton of it with the haters), but they are entertaining. And in a 181828283 month nba season that goes a long way with me.
DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:
What does that even mean? I have posted twice about this, mainly about how silly this whole thing has been. I think DJ is immature, a viewpoint that is not unique to me, and overall I don't really care that much about it, considering there have been hundreds of posts on here today concerning it.
Kliq said:
Just tweaking you - the whole story is amusing. And while Jordan is immature, he has a lot of company in the Association. On the flip side, I think its kind of understandable that he would have second thoughts about leaving a situation that was good for him (aside from CP3 being an abusive teammate). And I think it was fucking cool that all those guys flew down there and wooed him. I don't think he and Paul will be playing cribbage together anytime soon and my money is that they continue to be just as dysfunctional as ever going forward. However its a nice story for a franchise and fan-base that has suffered for a long, long time,
Blacken said:
Paul Pierce just fucking gets it. I hope he plays another 10 years because he is a boss on and off the court.
I wouldn't say nobody. I would have given virtually anything of value we had for Bledsoe and Jordan. There were some on the bandwagon with me although I don't recall the percentage.Rudy Pemberton said:
The Mavs have to be tanking now, right? When was the last time a team with a top-10 protected pick, who was close to losing it, didn't put themselves in position to hold on to it?
There was GS with the Barnes pick, the Lakers last year, Miami last year, Detroit trying to hold on to their top 8 2 years ago (lost it when Cleveland jumped them in the lottery).
I guess Brooklyn didn't make sure to be in the bottom 3 the Lillard year, but...Billy King.
Edit: I know there's the "Dirk is 37 and won't be down with a tank" school of thought, and I hope it's true for the C's sake. At the same time, Dirk probably knows now that they're not winning a title before he retires, and I get the feeling he is close enough to the organization that he might be looking at a front office future with them pretty soon, in which case the incentives for him flip pretty hard.
There was GS with the Barnes pick, the Lakers last year, Miami last year, Detroit trying to hold on to their top 8 2 years ago (lost it when Cleveland jumped them in the lottery).
I guess Brooklyn didn't make sure to be in the bottom 3 the Lillard year, but...Billy King.
Edit: I know there's the "Dirk is 37 and won't be down with a tank" school of thought, and I hope it's true for the C's sake. At the same time, Dirk probably knows now that they're not winning a title before he retires, and I get the feeling he is close enough to the organization that he might be looking at a front office future with them pretty soon, in which case the incentives for him flip pretty hard.
Tanking would be if they purposely put themselves in a position to lose. Nothing about the Mavs thus far has been intentional and they are already a lock for the lottery.lovegtm said:
In the playoffs these were their Top 7 players and next years status. They have added a wing coming off Achilles surgery.
Monta - Left via FA
Dirk - Just turned 37
Aminu - Left via FA
T. Chandler - Left via FA
C. Parsons - Still in Dallas killing Twitter
Barea - 4th guard now splitting PG with Felton
Amare - Free agent
Oh crap they could be REALLY bad in the West. Remember that pick is Top-7 protected.
I totally agree that *up to this point*, they weren't trying to lose. From here on out things get interesting though, because I think Dallas is smart enough to go all the way if they're going to be bad.HomeRunBaker said:
Cuban has already floated the idea of a "David Robinson year", and mentioned that this would be a particularly good year to tank because of how much better the other bad teams have gotten.
What would Dallas have to do at this point to make sure they finish behind Minnesota/SAC/LAL? Move Parsons for future assets, rest Dirk a lot and you're basically there.
I'd give 3-1 odds that the Celtics don't get the pick this year.
Well, if they want to tank and if they re going to move Chandler Parsons and if they want some nice future assets for him, I do know a team that could help them.
https://twitter.com/blakegriffin32/status/618967776955248640soxhop411 said:
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Blake Griffin has really gone up in my estimation today...his tweets have been stellar.
How about we give them that Dallas pick back for him. Lets them avoid tanking if they want.Nick Kaufman said:
