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Shane Drohan is starting for Worcester today. I'm still hopeful he'll put it together soon & be part of the rotation this season, even if all evidence seems to disagree.

View: https://twitter.com/ChrisHenrique/status/1672993743165612034


Drohan, 24, is 6'3 & was the Red Sox 5th round pick in 2020 after attending FSU. He was drafted in the 23rd round by the Phillies after HS in '17, but obviously didn't sign. Signed for $600k with the Red Sox.

2 scoreless innings so far, but 3 baserunners & 0 strikeouts.
 
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Yordanny Monegro is getting his 1st start in A ball today after a really encouraging stint at the FCL.

View: https://twitter.com/RedSoxPlayerDev/status/1669777534840438795


View: https://twitter.com/FLProspectPod/status/1665815404478857217


In 3 starts he pitched 15 innings & recorded 20 strikeouts, 1.20 ERA. 0.60 WHIP.

Monegro, 20, is 6'4 from Santa Domingo, DR. He signed as an IFA in February 2020 for $35k.
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Monegro!

View: https://twitter.com/Hunter_Noll/status/1673045960090329088

View: https://twitter.com/Hunter_Noll/status/1673049930233962497
 
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Monegro!

View: https://twitter.com/Hunter_Noll/status/1673045960090329088

View: https://twitter.com/Hunter_Noll/status/1673049930233962497
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Final YORDANNY update of the day:

View: https://twitter.com/Hunter_Noll/status/1673062680943374336


View: https://twitter.com/Hunter_Noll/status/1673066570589822986


View: https://twitter.com/Hunter_Noll/status/1673066775670411264


https://twitter.com/Hunter_Noll/status/1673068297426722821

5 IP, 0 runs, 11 k's, 2 hits, no walks.

Pretty good debut.
 
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JDE also had a solid day.

View: https://twitter.com/SoxProspects/status/1673058018492071937


Juan Daniel Encarnacion snuck into the latest SoxProspects list, but with more outings like that the 6'2 22 y/o from San Pedro de Macaris, Dominican Republic, will move up.

He signed as an IFA for $40k in 2018.

Other players from San Pedro de Macaris include Sammy Sosa, Alfonso Soriano, Tony Fernandez, Rico Carty, Mariano Duncan & Fernando Tatis.
 
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Who and what is Yordanny Monegro? I never heard of him until today's incredible preformance although he pitched very well in his 3 FCL games earlier (WHIP 0.60). Big guy at 6’4’’. Checked Sox Prospects and he’s not even listed in their top 60 but found this: https://soxprospects.com/players/monegro-yordanny.htm
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In post #240 in this thread The Gray Eagle posted some excerpts from a Globe article about DSL & FCL, including this mentioning Yordanny as someone whose stuff improved s lot over the winter:

Righthander Yordanny Monegro, 20, has made a significant jump in stuff and mechanical consistency since a poor performance in the FCL last year, showing a fastball up to 96 with a good changeup.
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My 1st post on him was on Tuesday:

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The scouting report says he has a Yadi body.

Another fun young pitcher to look out for...

Yordanny Monegro signed for $35k in February 2020. 6'4, 20 y/o. Wasn't particularly good in FCL last year, but might have made a leap.

View: https://twitter.com/IanCundall/status/1671240245025677313
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SP's writeup on Monegro seems like the main knock against him is command, but I don't know if that's current; he dropped from 4.9 bb/9 last year to 2.4 in the FCL this year, not counting his performance today.
 
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JM3 said:
In post #240 in this thread The Gray Eagle posted some excerpts from a Globe article about DSL & FCL, including this mentioning Yordanny as someone whose stuff improved s lot over the winter:
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I didn’t get a chance to watch him today, but if he has a “good changeup” to go with 96 and that hammer, that’s a pretty good combination. Let the competition between him and Perales begin!
 
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Chris Hatfield from SoxProspects is expecting some other callups in the near future...

View: https://twitter.com/SPChrisHatfield/status/1673106085002002433


Here are some of his takes on different suggestions:

View: https://twitter.com/SPChrisHatfield/status/1673112521455042561


Have discussed BVB & Guerrero recently & also think they're both ready.

A bit suspect of the Zeferjahn thing. He's a 25 y/o reliever who has pitched 17 innings in 14 games & has 14 walks, a 4.24 ERA & a 5.06 FIP. Feels like he should be his control under... control... before moving up.

On the other hand...30 strikeouts in 17 innings is kind of bonkers.

& he can throw 99.

3rd round pick out of Kansas in '19. $500k signing bonus, 6'5. Rays drafted him in the 37th round in '16.
 
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He says no on Roman Anthony - too young.

View: https://twitter.com/SPChrisHatfield/status/1673112690653376513


No on Hunter Dobbins - only 1 game at his new level.

View: https://twitter.com/SPChrisHatfield/status/1673113162814574596


Probably not on Yorke - but maybe later in the year.

View: https://twitter.com/SPChrisHatfield/status/1673119026568937473


Yes on Blaze, who had another good day today going 2-3 with a walk & his 20th double, raising his average to .328 & OPS to .934.

View: https://twitter.com/SPChrisHatfield/status/1673119403276206083


Bonus MassLive Tweet/article on Blaze:

View: https://twitter.com/SmittyOnMLB/status/1672937556009156615


& he thinks probably no major league call up for Rafaela this year.

https://twitter.com/SPChrisHatfield/status/1673119818612875266
 
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With Blaze (IMHO) you kind of have to at this point.


Look at the three stats there. The guy is leading the league in hitting and is crushing the ball. I think he needs to get more of a challenge to determine his discipline a bit more.

On the other hand, he is young.

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He says no on Roman Anthony - too young.

View: https://twitter.com/SPChrisHatfield/status/1673112690653376513


No on Hunter Dobbins - only 1 game at his new level.

View: https://twitter.com/SPChrisHatfield/status/1673113162814574596


Probably not on Yorke - but maybe later in the year.

View: https://twitter.com/SPChrisHatfield/status/1673119026568937473


Yes on Blaze, who had another good day today going 2-3 with a walk & his 20th double, raising his average to .328 & OPS to .934.

View: https://twitter.com/SPChrisHatfield/status/1673119403276206083


Bonus MassLive Tweet/article on Blaze:

View: https://twitter.com/SmittyOnMLB/status/1672937556009156615


& he thinks probably no major league call up for Rafaela this year.

https://twitter.com/SPChrisHatfield/status/1673119818612875266
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I didn’t get a chance to watch him today, but if he has a “good changeup” to go with 96 and that hammer, that’s a pretty good combination. Let the competition between him and Perales begin!
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I'm kinda hoping Perales & Wikelman each get bumped up a level soon.

Here's a name not previously mentioned...

View: https://twitter.com/brendan_camp/status/1673163418520416258


Brand is 5'9 & 23 & appears to have been mostly drafted in the 8th round for budget purposes ($7,500 signing bonus). According to SoxProspects he has pretty good fastball & curveball, but not so much slider & changeup, but is a big sports science guy?

https://soxprospects.com/players/brand-jonathan.htm

View: https://twitter.com/IanCundall/status/1549127302788825088


View: https://twitter.com/PPA_Ohio/status/1614370436699295744
 
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A bit suspect of the Zeferjahn thing. He's a 25 y/o reliever who has pitched 17 innings in 14 games & has 14 walks, a 4.24 ERA & a 5.06 FIP. Feels like he should be his control under... control... before moving up.

On the other hand...30 strikeouts in 17 innings is kind of bonkers.

& he can throw 99.

3rd round pick out of Kansas in '19. $500k signing bonus, 6'5. Rays drafted him in the 37th round in '16.
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Zeferjahn is Rule 5 eligible this offseason, might simply be a case of pushing him aggressively due to the timeline on 40-man decisions.
 
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SP's writeup on Monegro seems like the main knock against him is command, but I don't know if that's current; he dropped from 4.9 bb/9 last year to 2.4 in the FCL this year, not counting his performance today.
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Fangraphs as him as their #25. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/boston-red-sox-top-46-prospects-2023/

"Monegro was the best Red Sox pitching prospect I saw during extended spring training looks in Florida. He’s a little older than the typical arm from the complex group, but he’s still projectable at a high-waited 6-foot-4. He sat 91-94 mph and was up to 95, with vertical ride and command that will surely allow him to have success at the lowest pro levels. He has a clean, direct line to the plate and lovely hip/shoulder separation that, along with his frame, portends more velocity. An upper-70s curveball with solid average depth and a power-action changeup that he throws as hard as 91 mph round out the repertoire. It’s a starter’s mix with a starter’s frame, delivery, and strike-throwing. His ceiling will be dictated by how much velo he and the Red Sox can develop, and he’s far enough away from the bigs that it has to alter how he’s valued here, but Monegro has fourth starter upside."

FWIW his command is rated as a present/future 30/50
 
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Cuzzitt did an amazing job in these forums for years and years. Really missed.
In recent years, Cesar Crespo also did some great work on the minors.


So exciting to read these updates, thanks JM3!

So many of these players were international signings, which highlights how crucial that international signing money is. All the "Red Sox are cheap" people don't get or don't care that if you go over the cap enough that it costs you international signing money, that will really damage the whole organization a few years down the line.
We've got some exciting arms now that signed for small bonuses, it's great news in the long run.
 
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Cuzzitt did an amazing job in these forums for years and years. Really missed.
In recent years, Cesar Crespo also did some great work on the minors.


So exciting to read these updates, thanks JM3!

So many of these players were international signings, which highlights how crucial that international signing money is. All the "Red Sox are cheap" people don't get or don't care that if you go over the cap enough that it costs you international signing money, that will really damage the whole organization a few years down the line.
We've got some exciting arms now that signed for small bonuses, it's great news in the long run.
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As much as the big splashy IFA signings seem exciting I have always been in favor of spreading the money around to get as many like $25k-$75k guys as you can and see who rises to the top. For every Devers there are a bunch who don’t pan out. I could be way off base on hit rates for these prospects but we’ve seen many an Oscar Tejeda and Michael Almanzar wash out over the years.

It’s a big if but IF you trust your scouting and development team and coaching and everything in the DSL and in Florida, you can really squeeze out a lot of value.

In two years we could have a #1 starter and CF/lead off man who cost $38k combined to sign.
 
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The Gray Eagle said:
Cuzzitt did an amazing job in these forums for years and years. Really missed.
In recent years, Cesar Crespo also did some great work on the minors.


So exciting to read these updates, thanks JM3!

So many of these players were international signings, which highlights how crucial that international signing money is. All the "Red Sox are cheap" people don't get or don't care that if you go over the cap enough that it costs you international signing money, that will really damage the whole organization a few years down the line.
We've got some exciting arms now that signed for small bonuses, it's great news in the long run.
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It's why I rate our farm system a tic higher than some teams "ahead" of us. A team like Tampa Bay generally needs their farm to be their future MLB team. A team like the Sox should be thinking that way, but with all of these potentially useful pieces around the main goal should be building a treadmill of guys coming into the majors who are going to give you return on your cost controlled dollars. If we get two a year that gives you ten cost-controlled players at a time on the team. That is absolutely massive. It's why the Dodgers and Braves have been able to flex as they have. Sure they've hit some out of the park, but if you don't have the back of your roster filled with guys who have failed elsewhere, true lottery tickets, expensive subs then you can allocate the resources elsewhere.

Of course you hope you find the next Mike Trout amongst them, but as we've seen, the Dombrowski method ignores that part completely. It was fun winning a world series, but it's even more fun to create a machine that makes it more likely to have a fun team to root for every year. Objective One is the most important one, though.
We have incredible, incredible depth coming up through the ranks now (argument can be made against pitching).
 
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The Gray Eagle said:
Cuzzitt did an amazing job in these forums for years and years. Really missed.
In recent years, Cesar Crespo also did some great work on the minors.


So exciting to read these updates, thanks JM3!

So many of these players were international signings, which highlights how crucial that international signing money is. All the "Red Sox are cheap" people don't get or don't care that if you go over the cap enough that it costs you international signing money, that will really damage the whole organization a few years down the line.
We've got some exciting arms now that signed for small bonuses, it's great news in the long run.
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Cuzzitt is before my time, but I always used to come into the thread to read Cesar Crespo's updates. Hope he's ok. & thx!

If any of you have any suggestions on how best to structure these things so they're more entertaining/useful/readable, happy to listen.
 
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It's why I rate our farm system a tic higher than some teams "ahead" of us. A team like Tampa Bay generally needs their farm to be their future MLB team. A team like the Sox should be thinking that way, but with all of these potentially useful pieces around the main goal should be building a treadmill of guys coming into the majors who are going to give you return on your cost controlled dollars. If we get two a year that gives you ten cost-controlled players at a time on the team. That is absolutely massive. It's why the Dodgers and Braves have been able to flex as they have. Sure they've hit some out of the park, but if you don't have the back of your roster filled with guys who have failed elsewhere, true lottery tickets, expensive subs then you can allocate the resources elsewhere.

Of course you hope you find the next Mike Trout amongst them, but as we've seen, the Dombrowski method ignores that part completely. It was fun winning a world series, but it's even more fun to create a machine that makes it more likely to have a fun team to root for every year. Objective One is the most important one, though.
We have incredible, incredible depth coming up through the ranks now (argument can be made against pitching).
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I agree with this completely. I don't mind the occasional big spend on a free agent (sadly, Soto seems like he isn't a great fit with the future of this team, but I wouldn't complain), but one of the things that I think sets baseball fandom apart from other sports is the ability to dream on these guys, and follow them as they "grow up". I have been very jealous of my friends who are Braves fans over the last couple years, and I hope that the Sox are pushing that model sometime in the next couple of years.
 
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Jeremy Wu-Yelland had his 2nd rehab start in the FCL today. Had TJ last April.

View: https://twitter.com/SoxProspects/status/1673371206848765954?cxt=HHwWhICzmeWPgbkuAAAA


6'2 lefty who just turned 24 2 days ago (HBD JWY). Went to college at Hawaii. 4th round pick in 2020, $200k signing bonus.

Hasn't pitched since '21 when he was hard to hit but easy to walk on at Salem (4.03 ERA, 67 IP, 50 hits, 36 walks, 77 strikeouts) before a 9 inning cameo in A+ with Greenville. That injury, combined with the canceled '20 season has to have been tough on his development. I guess they'll probably put him back in Greenvile once he's rehabbed a bit?

Probably projects more as a reliever long term as I think his control & secondary pitches still need a lot of work - could throw like 97, though.

View: https://twitter.com/jeremyelland/status/1673293461812924416
 
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The daily MILB scoreboard is also essential reading although the UX could be better. Ideally I’d like to be able to open every box score for all system games on a single page.

Trying to figure out the best player tracker. There is milbtracker.com which looks pretty user friendly but I believe MLB.com has a tool as well, but the former allows you to easily search by organization which is appealing. The latter makes you type in every player's name individually to build your tracker.
 
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If I were in a clubhouse with a guy named Blaze I would almost certainly try to get a nickname like Iceman to stick.
 
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Jed Zeppelin said:
The daily MILB scoreboard is also essential reading although the UX could be better. Ideally I’d like to be able to open every box score for all system games on a single page.

Trying to figure out the best player tracker. There is milbtracker.com which looks pretty user friendly but I believe MLB.com has a tool as well, but the former allows you to easily search by organization which is appealing. The latter makes you type in every player's name individually to build your tracker.
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I use this page which is buried in MLB.com’s prospect section. It doesn’t show the opponent’s box, but if you click on an individual game it will take you to the full box score.
 
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THANK YOU. The MILB version is so janky. Personal game changer.
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Glad to pay it forward, it’s a holdover that used to get posted on SoxProspects daily back before MiLB let you sort scores by affiliate.

Happy to see Yorke and Drohan in the Futures Game; Mayer feels like a chalk selection but those two show much their stock has recovered/jumped this season.
 
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