The stakes are just a bit different in ST coordinator and the guy who will presumably need to rebuild an offense and develop a franchise QB
Unfortunately, he did not qualify for an interview, as "only those who are living or breathing" would be seen as an improvement.
He did work 1 on 1 with Matt Gay supposedly, and is credited with helping him.
Oh thank God. Now go hire Kubiak, Fleury or both for the offensive side and let's move on.
I don't know, there are going to be a lot of inexperienced people from Mayo on down, and a lot of them may also be not good.
They could be awful, they could be great. Nobody knows yet.
I’m more upset that people are damning these potential candidates for lack of experience. I’m sorry, an assumed lack of experience because none of us know what any of these guys have actually done day in, day out. To be uninspired by any of these guys is some next level entitlement. The only thing that would be uninspiring would be to bring in someone who has already done it here McD, BOB. They are actively looking for different voices. It’s a sign that they fully understand what went on here last year and it won’t be tolerated. I’m on board so far. Some of you will argue that someone like Caley isn’t different. I’ll counteract that with, he left for a reason. Awesome if it’s a familiar face, but that face may not be spouting the same narrative as when they were in a lower position.
For me, if my team has a rookie head coach, I want as much experience around him as I can get. I wouldn’t go so far as to say the blind leading the blind, but the inexperienced leading the inexperienced doesn’t install much confidence. We’re in the same conference with the Chiefs who have Reid, Spags and a lot of other staff with years of coaching experience. Two Harbaughs again (John didn’t shine last Sunday, I know), Tomlin, Zac Taylor, McDaniel…Teams with these guys are all better off for the foreseeable future. Now we see possible ridiculing by people around the league that even hiring into the Patriots system is a joke. I think we’re in for some lean years.
I understand wanting experience or a perceived sure-thing but that’s not really in the cards I don’t think. I look at what the Texans did this year with a fairly inexperienced staff and I can see the Pats in a similar trajectory. The biggest thing they had going into last year that we don’t is stability at LT. That is actually a rather large part that we’re currently missing. I also don’t put much into the mediots saying this is a bad gig.
But no one mentioned the Texans, where the top 3 coaches and QB are all in their first years in those roles.
Having Tunsil and the Watson haul were key things the Pats don’t have - although arguably they have a better overall roster than the 2023 Texans did, just not at a crucial spot (LT)
Gannon had the same thing in Arizona with 36 and 30 year old coordinators
They had 2 placekickers, neither of whom were any good. That's normally on the kicker, not the ST coach (ST coaches cannot turn Scott Sisson into Adam Vinatieri). Seems like the punter was not very good either.
I wanted Judge out because the unit was bad and the reports were that he was a bad influence on the team. (One of the late career head scratchers from BB.) Achord's STs just did not perform. Springer wasn't even the lead STs coach, so I agree, you look more at him than the short term results of LAR's STs.
Similar to the 2014 Colts, I guess he can now add it to his resume that he was officially named "first finalist".
One advantage to interviewing a guy nobody else (including apparently his current team) is even considering for their OC spot is that you can wait as long as you want for the SB teams because no worry he'll go somewhere else.
Rams are at a different place and may not want a first time OC in charge.
Is he really saying he should have gotten the job? I read "was a logical choice" as "would have made sense" and not "should have been the guy".
Did Caley hurt you? Maybe he offended a relative? I get you’re not over the moon about him but he checks all the boxes. Been around successful offenses including being in the same room as McVay and Robinson for a year. ALSO is highly thought of by Scarnecchia. Maybe he’s not a QB whisperer, they could still bring in more coaches/specialists.
Right, it wasn't crazy then, it's not crazy now, but that doesn't make it not underwhelming.
I have said I'm pretty neutral on Caley, my point was.... nobody else wants him as an OC, which means you can take your time and wait on Kubiak, he isn't a Robinson who has other offers you need to move to try and rush to beat. He could be a good OC, but there is no particular rush to give him the job before Kubiak and Fleury are available. Not sure why you are implying that my stating a fact about his current employment options is a personal attack. It is what it is.
Pretty sure Perry is saying there what many said at the time... he was senior-most offensive coach at the time and got an interview the next year so if they were staying internal, which seemed likely, he was the expected pick, BB bypassed him for Patricia.
Failing to see what boxes he actually checks?
It came across as a little “the best part about a guy nobody wants” which sounds defamatory.
Checks all the boxes for what you’re looking for in a first time OC. If you want experience you’re not looking for someone who’s starting out. Have we interviewed anyone that has experience calling plays, implanting a system or developing talent? Or are they all assistants looking for their first coordinator position.
To be fair though people get all "run through a wall" impressed after introductory press conferences. But honestly shouldn't that be the way they all sound? Say the right things get people excited. If you don't sound impressive you've hired the wrong person. These letters and PCs for new hires should ask get the who cares treatment.
Current for what it's worth, Dickerson is still on the Seahawks staff. Interviewed amusingly...... for the Browns OC slot to replace Van Pelt.
Lot of Jumbos in the coaching ranks. When I went to one of their games while at Fletcher I think the crowd numbered in the dozens.
Wolf is overall scouting director right? Reiss thinks he's essentially the GM.
It's fair to assume that the position coach dominoes will start falling in the next 2 weeks now that the coordinators are in place. Current openings and incumbents:
What you describe is the career path of most positional coaches.
