GW37: The Penultimate GW

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So glad Raith Rovers beat Patrick in the first leg of the play off cos I feel a bit greasy watching this Spurs City match.

Dunno why, just feel a little greasy. Can't explain.

Wonder if City can make it five in a row next season.
As a Spurs fan I was trying to be very "I can see all sides of things" with all the fan dialogue, I'm over here in the US having to deal with very few Arsenal fans in my life so I don't want to be on my high horse about people who just don't want to get endless shit from guys at work or guys at the office.

My one exception was that it was going to be very depressing if the fans actually in the stadium didn't get behind the team, and that's exactly what happened and it was a bummer. The Spurs gameplan worked well, especially in the first half where it really knocked City for a loop, and they got nothing out of the crowd for it.

It was very small-time "It's more important that you fail than I succeed" energy from the crowd.
 

Morgan's Magic Snowplow

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Welp. Not many better finishers in world football over the last 6-7 years than Son, especially in that kind of situation.

Spurs and Forest scored zero goals on a combined 4 XG in those two recent matches and that’s almost certainly going to decide the title.

Arsenal did what we could and can hold our heads high. The football gods did not cooperate.
 

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As a Spurs fan I was trying to be very "I can see all sides of things" with all the fan dialogue, I'm over here in the US having to deal with very few Arsenal fans in my life so I don't want to be on my high horse about people who just don't want to get endless shit from guys at work or guys at the office.

My one exception was that it was going to be very depressing if the fans actually in the stadium didn't get behind the team, and that's exactly what happened and it was a bummer. The Spurs gameplan worked well, especially in the first half where it really knocked City for a loop, and they got nothing out of the crowd for it.

It was very small-time "It's more important that you fail than I succeed" energy from the crowd.
Yeah, the whole thing was weird. I've got talk sport on YouTube, ex Spurs player and huge fan Jamie O'Hara is presenting in a city shirt. He did the radio coms in it and kept it on for the sports bar show. Keeps saying how nice the shirt is.

I get it, but it's weird. Co presenter Ex Chelsea player Jason Cundy makes the point that the biggest win in Spurs season is cheering for a home loss. He's not holding back to be fair.

Big Ange was critical of the crowd in his press conference. I worry the fans might turn on him next season.
 

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Yeah, the whole thing was weird. I've got talk sport on YouTube, ex Spurs player and huge fan Jamie O'Hara is presenting in a city shirt. He did the radio coms in it and kept it on for the sports bar show. Keeps saying how nice the shirt is.

I get it, but it's weird. Co presenter Ex Chelsea player Jason Cundy makes the point that the biggest win in Spurs season is cheering for a home loss. He's not holding back to be fair.

Big Ange was critical of the crowd in his press conference. I worry the fans might turn on him next season.
With the amount of pissed off he seems to have gotten, I wonder if that awful energy got closer to the squad than it should have. The coaching staff and players seemed up for it, it was a good gameplan well executed, But the people in and around the club doing jobs are likely there in part as supporters, so maybe some of that negative weirdness leaked in.

I'm more on board than ever with Ange personally, I both think he's correct to be irritated and more importantly, this gameplan was a nice showing that he's likely to be more tactically flexible in the future once he's got his base system installed, which I know some Celtic folks have told us was a big year 1 to year 2 difference and you could see some of it today.

Apropros of nothing except that he was mentioned, Jamie O'Hara is apparently also on a streaming reality dating show where current and ex-footballers go to America and lie about being footballers to American women while trying to date them, which seems strange on a few levels to me (https://www.peacocktv.com/blog/love-undercover-season-1-cast)
 

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Just to be clear, the idea that West Ham could get something off City on Sunday has no subscribers here, correct? Not a chance in hell?
 

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Maybe Conte and Mourinho were right all along about the players on the Spurs
So…. Son? It’s an entirely different squad, who lost one of the best players in the PL this offseason, and then played a decent game against city. There also really wasn’t all that much on the line for Spurs (outside chance at CL, but Villa just needed a point).

This wasn’t a mentality game.
 

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Just to be clear, the idea that West Ham could get something off City on Sunday has no subscribers here, correct? Not a chance in hell?
Given their history in Matchweek 38, I fully expect them to look vulnerable for 80 minutes, maybe even go down a goal with 20 minutes left, then score 3 times in 5 minutes to put it away.
 

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As a Spurs fan I was trying to be very "I can see all sides of things" with all the fan dialogue, I'm over here in the US having to deal with very few Arsenal fans in my life so I don't want to be on my high horse about people who just don't want to get endless shit from guys at work or guys at the office.

My one exception was that it was going to be very depressing if the fans actually in the stadium didn't get behind the team, and that's exactly what happened and it was a bummer. The Spurs gameplan worked well, especially in the first half where it really knocked City for a loop, and they got nothing out of the crowd for it.

It was very small-time "It's more important that you fail than I succeed" energy from the crowd.
I guess…. Arsenal fans made it a freaking religion to celebrate St. Totteringham day while they were blowing the league to United every year, I’m kinda ok with it.

Hell I saw some aresenal fans bring it up this year
 

Jimy Hendrix

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I guess…. Arsenal fans made it a freaking religion to celebrate St. Totteringham day while they were blowing the league to United every year, I’m kinda ok with it.

Hell I saw some aresenal fans bring it up this year
That’s lame petty bullshit for sure, but it doesn’t involve Arsenal celebrating themselves losing.

I wouldn’t be annoyed if it was just one of those ironic late match cheers you get, but the two days of whole fanbase wailing and whining and a stadium half dead when the team is playing well against the best team in the league with Champion’s League possibilities on the line was all very tiring to me.
 

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Apropros of nothing except that he was mentioned, Jamie O'Hara is apparently also on a streaming reality dating show where current and ex-footballers go to America and lie about being footballers to American women while trying to date them, which seems strange on a few levels to me (https://www.peacocktv.com/blog/love-undercover-season-1-cast)
My wife watched the first episode last night and told me to watch it today! It's so, so stupid that it's kind of fun. The best part is seeing most of the egos deflate when all the women go for the youngest, sexiest guy. It's very much like I imagined the Jamie Tartt reality dating show would have been like. Not sure if the novelty of the premise will last into another episode.
 

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My wife watched the first episode last night and told me to watch it today! It's so, so stupid that it's kind of fun. The best part is seeing most of the egos deflate when all the women go for the youngest, sexiest guy. It's very much like I imagined the Jamie Tartt reality dating show would have been like. Not sure if the novelty of the premise will last into another episode.
Well, the first episode is free on YouTube. It autoplays on Peacock's YT page.
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I nap in the middle of the day. Am I European?
 

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That’s lame petty bullshit for sure, but it doesn’t involve Arsenal celebrating themselves losing.

I wouldn’t be annoyed if it was just one of those ironic late match cheers you get, but the two days of whole fanbase wailing and whining and a stadium half dead when the team is playing well against the best team in the league with Champion’s League possibilities on the line was all very tiring to me.
IMO, it was perfectly understandable and relatable for Spurs fans to be conflicted about the whole situation in the run up to the match. I think it would be similar for many fan bases if the shoe was on the other foot.

But if you're actually going to attend the match, and you see your team playing their hearts out going toe-to-toe with the best side in the world to fight for something very meaningful to the players and the club, its pathetic to withhold your support from them. Its one thing to be caught up in the bantz online. But if you're watching this intense match from 100 feet away that is so meaningful to your players and you'd rather cheer about hating Arsenal than get behind your own side because you're worried about the Arsenal fans in your WhatsApp group having one over you in the future, what is really the point of being a fan? I think that's what had Ange really bothered afterward, not anything the players did.
 
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67YAZ

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Well, the first episode is free on YouTube. It autoplays on Peacock's YT page.
"European men, they know how to live life. They nap in the middle of the day."

I nap in the middle of the day. Am I European?
Sure, European in that Midwest sorta way.
 

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Welp. Not many better finishers in world football over the last 6-7 years than Son, especially in that kind of situation.

Spurs and Forest scored zero goals on a combined 4 XG in those two recent matches and that’s almost certainly going to decide the title.

Arsenal did what we could and can hold our heads high. The football gods did not cooperate.
It wasn't the football gods. Arsenal got 1 point from games against 14th place Fulham.
 

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That’s lame petty bullshit for sure, but it doesn’t involve Arsenal celebrating themselves losing.

I wouldn’t be annoyed if it was just one of those ironic late match cheers you get, but the two days of whole fanbase wailing and whining and a stadium half dead when the team is playing well against the best team in the league with Champion’s League possibilities on the line was all very tiring to me.
I was annoyed at the fans who actually cheered for City's goals, but last night was a unique situation and the fanbase was in a really tough spot. I do think it's a bit odd that Ange has saved all his fire for having a go at the fans both before and after the match when the team has been pretty shit for months.
 

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It wasn't the football gods. Arsenal got 1 point from games against 14th place Fulham.
Meh, when you lose the title by one result than almost any match can be seen as plausibly decisive.

City have set an incredible standard for the PL, making the league far harder to win than in any other era. Roughly matching that standard is itself a huge accomplishment but, as Liverpool discovered previously, you also need to hope some breaks go your way.