Goodell's press conference game thread

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Good point by Jim Trotter on ESPN: Goodell slayed Payton during boutygate, because Payton said he didn't know what was going on, and Goodell said that ignorance wasn't an excuse, it was happening under his watch so he has to pay to consequences. Now, Goodell says he was ignorant to the video, and is basically hiding behind that excuse.
 

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Seems like ESPN is letting people say that the PC was ineffective.  The commentary has been pretty much dead on in criticizing Goodell and the NFL.
 

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Kliq said:
Good point by Jim Trotter on ESPN: Goodell slayed Payton during boutygate, because Payton said he didn't know what was going on, and Goodell said that ignorance wasn't an excuse, it was happening under his watch so he has to pay to consequences. Now, Goodell says he was ignorant to the video, and is basically hiding behind that excuse.
 
One reporter said the exact same thing to him, and I believe his response was "I admitted I was wrong, I did accept responsibility." So...yeah.
 
And by "admitted he was wrong" he means "Ray Rice lied to me, it was really his fault."
 

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Nothing going forward is going to change the way this was handled in the past in it's entirety.  We can scream about this all day long.  The NFL is going to get a chance to see what they can do to handle Personal Conduct.  I'm looking forward to that.  Let this be a lesson to society in general as well. Agree with the talking heads on ESPN.  The players control this by their response and actions.  The next guy that screws up has no business in the NFL.
 

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Though I am trying to think of how this jives with the AP report of someone from the NFL receiving the tape. How did she get it?
 
Apparently some law enforcement source source just mailed it, it was never requested. And we know someone in the league office received it.
 
That's separate from the NFL officially making a request that the ACPD and DA's office saying was never  actually made.
 

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So either the NFL is lying or the AC Police are lying.
 
Don't get me wrong, the police in AC are fucking scumbags (big time) but somehow I don't think this was on them.
"We have no record of X," is a far cry from, "X never happened." It's sublime.
 

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Kliq said:
Good point by Jim Trotter on ESPN: Goodell slayed Payton during boutygate, because Payton said he didn't know what was going on, and Goodell said that ignorance wasn't an excuse, it was happening under his watch so he has to pay to consequences. Now, Goodell says he was ignorant to the video, and is basically hiding behind that excuse.
 
This isn't a new point.  People have been saying this since day one.  Goodell is a total hypocrite.  He knows it but doesn't care.  And the owners are going along with it.  It's disgusting.
 

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ESPN used the term swing and a miss.  They are killing him which I never thought I would see.
The NFL wishes more of their guys would swing and miss.
 

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Jane McManus and Jason Whitlock are doing a good job of pointing out all the holes and issues with Goodell's tenure as a whole, let alone the PC and the Rice incident.
 

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While over at Fox Sports we have this:
 
@FOXSports1 Pam Oliver: "I really thought it was pitch perfect."
 
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Frank Luntz: "This was language perfection."
You cannot be serious
 

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Schlereth on ESPN2 is so worked up I expect him to go to Park Avenue right now and rip RG's throat out with his teeth
 

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Bruschi on RG: "Going forward, I will doubt every word that comes out of his mouth."
 
Schlereth: "Great leadership takes action. You know what he's done? He's formed committees."
 
Awesome.
 

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I am shocked to find that the Q&A portion of the PC is not posted on NFL.com.
 

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Breaking news: The general public calls for commissioners head in (insert sport). Yawn.

All these talking heads fighting for clicks and ratings. To me that's the most pathetic part of today.
 

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Breaking news: The general public calls for commissioners head in (insert sport). Yawn.

All these talking heads fighting for clicks and ratings. To me that's the most pathetic part of today.
 
Seriously? That is the most pathetic thing?
 

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I'm interested in how this makes Jon Stewart feel...should be interesting to hear that
 

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CaptainLaddie said:
Will anyone on ESPN say a bad thing about how bad this went for Goodell?
The guys on both ESPN and ESPN2 have both been killing Godell. Teddy B even called for his firing. So I guess ESPN  has realized it's now safe to criticized Godell without any "punishment". It's the people at FOXSPORTS that you should be criticizing not ESPN.
 

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Seriously? That is the most pathetic thing?
What were your expectations today? For him to throw the players under the bus? Goodell admitted his mistake (again) and is putting professionals with experience in these positions to assist him moving forward.

We know he screwed up big time.....Im referring specifically to today's presser and what you expected to hear.
 

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What were your expectations today? For him to throw the players under the bus? Goodell admitted his mistake (again) and is putting professionals with experience in these positions to assist him moving forward.

We know he screwed up big time.....Im referring specifically to today's presser and what you expected to hear.
 
How about a substantive answer to ANY of the questions he was asked, he's had a week, as opposed to 'we will be investigating' boilerplate platitudes. Oh that's right, the minute he says anything substantive, he can be caught in the lie...
 

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How about a substantive answer to ANY of the questions he was asked, he's had a week, as opposed to 'we will be investigating' boilerplate platitudes. Oh that's right, the minute he says anything substantive, he can be caught in the lie...
Exactly. It this news to you? So you're telling me that you got the popcorn ready this afternoon and expected to hear Goodell not spin wheels on questions where the answer could incriminate him?

He's a puppet for the owners who care about one and only one thing. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that this dog and pony show today was ordered by the owners to put the focus on Goodell and off of their players heading into a football weekend. If so it was very effective.
 

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https://twitter.com/KristineLeahy/status/513081327331991555
 
Full OTL story: http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11551518/how-ray-rice-scandal-unfolded-baltimore-ravens-roger-goodell-nfl
 
 
But within hours of the elevator attack, an employee of the Ravens was describing the inside-elevator video to friends in graphic detail, telling confidants that Rice knocked out his then-fiancée with a punch and that the video was "really bad," according to a source close to a Ravens official.
 
Some other great stuff in there... I hadn't heard this either (though maybe some of you have):

 
 
Such is the assumption by some front offices that Goodell plays favorites among the owners that Woody Johnson, the Jets owner, was enraged after Goodell conducted a closed-door coin-flip to determine whether the Jets or Giants would host the first home game at the new Met Life Stadium in September 2010. The Giants won, Goodell announced, but no team representatives witnessed Goodell's coin flip. Johnson accused Goodell of rigging the coin toss for Giants owner John Mara, who Goodell counts as one of his closest confidants.
 
 

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HomeRunBaker said:
Exactly. It this news to you?
Is it news to you that people with websites want clicks? You were just overcome with how pathetic the sports media was today?
 

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HomeRunBaker said:
Exactly. It this news to you? So you're telling me that you got the popcorn ready this afternoon and expected to hear Goodell not spin wheels on questions where the answer could incriminate him?

He's a puppet for the owners who care about one and only one thing. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that this dog and pony show today was ordered by the owners to put the focus on Goodell and off of their players heading into a football weekend. If so it was very effective.
It's kinda tough to have a discussion with people who do this.
 
You said the "most pathetic part" about today was people calling for Goodell's head. That's what everyone responding to you directly referenced. Now you're off on some jackass tangent about what we all expected or something.
 

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Goodell is done. If he's not removed now, more sponsors are going to drop in the future and he'll be removed at that point.  I just can't see anyway he pulls out of the horrific death dive his incompetence put him in here. 
 

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HomeRunBaker said:
Breaking news: The general public calls for commissioners head in (insert sport). Yawn.

All these talking heads fighting for clicks and ratings. To me that's the most pathetic part of today.
Why was it pathetic that people want Goddell fired? Then you double down on the stupidity by suggesting some bizzare conspiracy.  In this thread and the Jerry Jones thread you really do not come off strongly. Perhaps you should give it a rest.
 

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Exactly. It this news to you? So you're telling me that you got the popcorn ready this afternoon and expected to hear Goodell not spin wheels on questions where the answer could incriminate him?

He's a puppet for the owners who care about one and only one thing. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that this dog and pony show today was ordered by the owners to put the focus on Goodell and off of their players heading into a football weekend. If so it was very effective.
 
You seem to be under the impression 32 owners meet almost daily, discuss strategy and give directions to the Commissioner.  He's not a puppet, he's a CEO who reports to something that is even more informal than a Board of Directors.  He does what he wants after, at best, short consultation with a few influential owners, then sells his strategy to them, again one on one, and hopes they react favorably to the results. Sometimes he feeds 'suggested responses' to a few he considers allies, but after the way that backfired for Bob Kraft recently, I doubt there's any owner rushing to carry his water atm.
 

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Why was it pathetic that people want Goddell fired? Then you double down on the stupidity by suggesting some bizzare conspiracy.  In this thread and the Jerry Jones thread you really do not come off strongly. Perhaps you should give it a rest.
Pffft you're probably right. The nativity here sometimes is off the charts. I've known this forever yet still get baited in.
 

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Gdiguy said:
 
 
Full OTL story: http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11551518/how-ray-rice-scandal-unfolded-baltimore-ravens-roger-goodell-nfl
 
 
Some other great stuff in there... I hadn't heard this either (though maybe some of you have):

 

 
What a crazy story!!!!  The entire Ravens Front Office, Biscotti and Newsome are just first class jerks.  Newsome should be looking for work.  At least John Harbaugh from the very beginning wanted to cut Rice and then the other players who had been arrested prior to the season.  
 

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HomeRunBaker said:
Pffft you're probably right. The nativity here sometimes is off the charts. I've known this forever yet still get baited in.
From the cradle to up to your crucifix. Classic. It's definitely our fault you don't read what you're responding to.
 

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Pffft you're probably right. The nativity here sometimes is off the charts. I've known this forever yet still get baited in.
 
Like Jesus? Just kidding. I don't think people are being naive. The NFL and how they have handled the last few weeks has been a joke. It's not naive to expect more. More class, more intelligence, more honesty. Instead, it's obfuscation and committee building. It's all fluff and it's pathetic.
 
I am surprised Godell didn't make a comment about the "domestic violence space".