It's stupid but 100% agree. I want #1 more for marketing than anything else although I do like Fultz a lot.I'm more nervous about tonight than I was about last night.
Imagine if you were a Lakers fan... now there's reason to be nervousI'm more nervous about tonight than I was about last night.
You want a team in your division with Simmons, Embiid, Saric and oodles of cap space to add 2 of the Ball/Jackson/Tatum/Fox group?Just ran a my one and only sim:
Celtics
Sixers
Suns
Sixers (conveyed from Lakers)
That would make me very happy...
With the obvious caveat that any situation where we are #1 I would accept without a moment's hesitation: I don't know. It's tempting to hop on board the "Ball and the Lakers deserve each other" train. Also if this happened we may be looking at a "new" division rival shaping up rather quickly. Having two top-4 picks in this draft would be huge for the Sixers.Just ran a my one and only sim:
Celtics
Sixers
Suns
Sixers (conveyed from Lakers)
That would make me very happy...
I believe the representatives do not but someone else from each team is a witness to the drawing itself.What are the mechanics of this again? The real lottery happens in a back room somewhere, and the TV event is for show? Do the contestants ... errr representatives already know the outcome?
No, but fuck the Lakers.You want a team in your division with Simmons, Embiid, Saric and oodles of cap space to add 2 of the Ball/Jackson/Tatum/Fox group?
What are the mechanics of this again? The real lottery happens in a back room somewhere, and the TV event is for show? Do the contestants ... errr representatives already know the outcome?
It sure would present challenges to the Sixers. Identifying two top-4 picks with career threatening injuries at the top of the same draft could have them scrambling.Also if this happened we may be looking at a "new" division rival shaping up rather quickly. Having two top-4 picks in this draft would be huge for the Sixers.
This should read 25% chance of the top pick, 21.5% chance at the 2nd (hence 46.5 chance at #1 or #2)Also, to refresh everyone's memory: The Celtics have a 21.5% chance at the #1 pick, a 46.5% chance to get the #1 or #2, and a 64.3% chance of being in the top 3, and 100% in the top 4.
Nothing to fear. There will come a lightbulb moment when a Colangelo realizes that nothing is stopping them from snagging generational talent Harry Giles at 4.It sure would present challenges to the Sixers. Identifying two top-4 picks with career threatening injuries at the top of the same draft could have them scrambling.
This draft is so deep I don't think there is any getting fucked here. They're going to have a top four pick in a deep draft and play in ECF Game 1 tomorrow night....at home. Yeah everyone wants Fultz but no complaints about snagging any of the top 4 in this draft if Danny even keeps the pick.Ahh the Celtics getting fucked in the lottery, a tradition like no other.
Ahh I agree with that, but it will sting really wanting Fultz and landing 2 or some such nonsense like we always do. My order of preference is Fultz, Tatum, JJ, Ball - I think we need scoring instead of a pass oriented guard or another solid defender that will struggle to spread the floor (ie Marcus).This draft is so deep I don't think there is any getting fucked here. They're going to have a top four pick in a deep draft and play in ECF Game 1 tomorrow night....at home. Yeah everyone wants Fultz but no complaints about snagging any of the top 4 in this draft if Danny even keeps the pick.
Landing at 4 tonight, or anywhere but 1, will have a significant effect on the picks trade value assuming Butler is still in play for Ainge.This draft is so deep I don't think there is any getting fucked here. They're going to have a top four pick in a deep draft and play in ECF Game 1 tomorrow night....at home. Yeah everyone wants Fultz but no complaints about snagging any of the top 4 in this draft if Danny even keeps the pick.
Well mathematically it probably is too much. Even if Brooklyn lands us the best chance next year and another 25% for #1 your scenario carries a 6.25% of winning both lotteries. Were Brooklyn be "passed" by one team it drops to 5.375%.Fultz liked this post on Twitter yesterday. Hopefully for once in the history of the lottery, the Celtics don't get boned. Is it too much to ask for Fultz and Ayton in back-to-back drafts?
Tonight is way more important for the C's future than last night was.I'm more nervous about tonight than I was about last night.
I tend to agree. I want nothing to do with Ball and the clownshow that he brings with him.Ahh I agree with that, but it will sting really wanting Fultz and landing 2 or some such nonsense like we always do. My order of preference is Fultz, Tatum, JJ, Ball - I think we need scoring instead of a pass oriented guard or another solid defender that will struggle to spread the floor (ie Marcus).
Absolutely. I guess it's just easier to swallow if it happens now than if they were the lottery team.Landing at 4 tonight, or anywhere but 1, will have a significant effect on the picks trade value assuming Butler is still in play for Ainge.
From the standpoint of making the selection, I'm at peace with whatever happens. Want 1, obviously, but 2-4 are close enough for me (and all would have a place on the current roster) that I don't think it matters as much. All very different players but I like them all.Landing at 4 tonight, or anywhere but 1, will have a significant effect on the picks trade value assuming Butler is still in play for Ainge.
I don't think it's the volume as much as the magnitude of missing out on Duncan and then Durant, two of the most surefire superstar talents to come out of the draft in the last 20 years.Have the Celtics really been fucked by the lottery more so than other teams? How many times have they even been in the lottery? Looks like they were even "lucky" to get Len Bias. http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Boston-Celtics/2/Lottery-History
I don't usually do this because I hate speculating about things I don't know about, but I can't see DA picking Ball. DA likes athletes. Ball is not one. I hope I'm correct.#2-possible trade UNLESS Lakers get #1 and are infatuated with Ball
Oh shit I read that wrong. Yes, 25% at #1 pick and 21.5% at #2. My apologies.This should read 25% chance of the top pick, 21.5% chance at the 2nd (hence 46.5 chance at #1 or #2)
I agree completely. I am terrified and just don't want to get porked. But the bright side is the JB pick that I wan't too thrilled with last year.I'm more nervous about tonight than I was about last night.
Would you trade 1 for him? If so, would that cost us the admittedly small chance at Gordon from a cap perspective?Landing at 4 tonight, or anywhere but 1, will have a significant effect on the picks trade value assuming Butler is still in play for Ainge.
Not all of us. Apparently there are people who think Jaylen Brown would be a late lottery pick this year if he were eligible to go back in the draft.Let's just remember that last year was a 2 player draft and the Celtics got "screwed". A year later I think we all agree that we're happy with how things turned out.
I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy.Imagine if you were a Lakers fan... now there's reason to be nervous
I wouldn't trade the #1 for him, especially because I believe that would just be part of a package. I would rather add Fultz to this team than trade away his rights, Brown, and someone else for Butler.Would you trade 1 for him? If so, would that cost us the admittedly small chance at Gordon from a cap perspective?
Yeah, I don't think we would pick Ball at #2. I meant that it's possible the Lakers pick him at #1 and Fultz may still be there at #2.I don't usually do this because I hate speculating about things I don't know about, but I can't see DA picking Ball. DA likes athletes. Ball is not one. I hope I'm correct.
It's a vicious cycle. Next year after 2 guys get hurt, 4 guys stink, and 3 guys put up empty numbers on a crap team, this year's top 10* will suffer the same fate in the eyes of 2018 draft prognosticators.Not all of us. Apparently there are people who think Jaylen Brown would be a late lottery pick this year if he were eligible to go back in the draft.
I think I'm watching something different than those people.
I suspect that DA will be ranking Fox higher than Ball. After watching Wall for seven games, I'd be excited to get Fox on this team, even if it isn't a position of need.Yeah, I don't think we would pick Ball at #2. I meant that it's possible the Lakers pick him at #1 and Fultz may still be there at #2.
It'll be interesting if we get #4 and Ball is there. Where does DA go?
Most GMs in position to offer Fultz aren't in charge of a team that's good enough to bother adding someone like Butler.I think most GMs wouldn't offer Fultz straight up for Butler
I wonder what is "better" for the development of a top pick - playing huge minutes on a lottery team like a Wiggins or playing limited minutes over the course of the season but getting significant run in the playoffs for a "contender" like Brown is doing. I guess each have their pros and cons and it's probably different for every player. Brown seems to be thriving in this spot.And I believe that Brown will have a better career than all but 3-4 of the guys in this draft. The fact that Stevens trusts his defense enough to give him crunch time minutes in games 6 and 7 tells me a lot about his progress.
Lebron didn't play in conference finals his first year. Lebron didn't make the playoffs in his first year. Or his second year.Not that a top 3 pick ever gets to play in a conference finals his first year unless you're LeBron, so I guess there isn't really any data to go back to.
You're right. Idk why the hell I thought the Cavs/Spurs Finals was his first year.Lebron didn't play in conference finals his first year. Lebron didn't make the playoffs in his first year. Or his second year.