#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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If you feel the need to preface a post with "Interesting Thought" or "Not sure if this has been asked/brought up before" or "Defam...", then a good rule of thumb is: Delete your post and then go smash your head against a curb.
Beware of mediots who screw up reporting by failing to grasp that you actually have to read enough of the opinion to accurately convey it.ifmanis5 said:
"Affirmed" obviously means one thing, though it could be coated with hot sauce.
"Vacated" could range from an almost pyrrhic victory to a slam dunk win.
Read don't rely.
Van Everyman said:
That's a pretty bold statement. Care to back it up with a link or two?
Should be easy considering that you are citing "virtually every journalist covering this."
Legal fees are relatively insignificant and would not be a real consideration for a party like the NFLPA at this point after a victory. All the research has been done, all the letter writing, witness prep, expert work and prep for and participation in Goodell's Kangaroo Court, the briefing in Minnesota and New York, multiple hearings, multiple settlement conferences...cost a pretty penny.Ed Hillel said:
If he wins here, we're talking one opposition brief (with nearly all the research already done), one argument, and maybe a 28j letter when the Peterson ruling comes out. It's a drop in the bucket.
Well they have acknowledged wrong doing in the investigation with regards to not cooperating fully so some penalty is certainly expected at some point.dcmissle said:
Given the choice between sitting one game at more or less your choosing and accepting no blame outside of not cooperating to the fullest extent possible in the investigation versus a crap shoot that you may end up with just a small fine, very small possibility that you are completely exonerated or worst case a reversal on appeal and you end up missing 4 games in November/December I'd think long and hard about hedging my bets and getting this over with.
Agreed re the $$ post, WBV, but even if the incremental legal fees and costs were substantial, they would not be an issue given the stakes here. Not that I think you disagree.
Can we pin this? Because this sports writer's nightmare scenario is like Glenn Close in the bathtub.WayBackVazquez said:
As you note, this almost certainly is not happening.
People want to worry about something along these lines, worry about a remand to Goodell on procedural grounds only, which would allow him to create mischief this season by having another hearing and so forth. And that's probably not happening too.
joe dokes said:
You can always reach a settlement. It's just a regular contract, where one (or both) side(s) agree(s) to stop suing.
Mea Culpa if this was discussed in the thread yesterday but Gary Myers' points on WEEI yesterday were interesting. Myers writes for the NY Daily News.
He said that, after having written a book about Brady and Manning, he has a good sense of Tom. And that he knows that Tom and his father have a very close relationship. And that he thinks Tom would not lie to his Dad (among other close relationships who Myers spoke with). And that Tom denies all wrong doing to his Dad.
This interested me because a friend knows Tom and his Dad, and spent time with Tom's Dad at the Super Bowl, and said almost exactly the same thing.
Not that Tom's guilt or innocence is the issue now. We're on to Berman.
He said that, after having written a book about Brady and Manning, he has a good sense of Tom. And that he knows that Tom and his father have a very close relationship. And that he thinks Tom would not lie to his Dad (among other close relationships who Myers spoke with). And that Tom denies all wrong doing to his Dad.
This interested me because a friend knows Tom and his Dad, and spent time with Tom's Dad at the Super Bowl, and said almost exactly the same thing.
Not that Tom's guilt or innocence is the issue now. We're on to Berman.
Remember to cast your votes in the Lawyers Chops thread for the closest guess once Berman's order is released.
(Popped out of the meeting - told them I needed a bathroom break.)
(Popped out of the meeting - told them I needed a bathroom break.)
DrewDawg said:
A very likely scenario is that it's 99% "done," but needs to be updated with whatever changes Berman deems necessary after yesterday's hearing; minor edits made; citations checked; proofread one last time; printed, signed, scanned, and uploaded - all of the minor stuff that Berman's staff would not necessarily have done in advance of yesterday's hearing, lest something happened that required rework, or obviated the whole thing.
glennhoffmania said:
Don't sulk - I added your name, and Mommy will give you some milk and cookies to make all better.
(Christ, even I can't bill for this time.)
dcmissle said:
Breslow has all rights to Richard III now, as he is just about to ascend the throne to be Sox closer.
Average Reds said:
But that'd exclude all the other people he knows that also know somebody.
Seeing if anyone has second thoughts after a good nigh's sleep and blinks, so it doesnt have to be his decision in the end?DrewDawg said:
Exactly, Marciano. I know someone who posted just that a few minutes ago.
On a quasi-serious note, I thought about not posting that in light of the inevitable ribbing I would take...but I think it's pretty cool that Myers had the exact same take as my friend.
On a quasi-serious note, I thought about not posting that in light of the inevitable ribbing I would take...but I think it's pretty cool that Myers had the exact same take as my friend.
I'm not sure that captures how those people are people who actually know people.Average Reds said:
How about Berman opens withdcmissle said:
Fans reporters countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Commissioner, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with Roger. The noble Brady
Hath told you the Commissioner was ambitious:
If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
I just got a spam email for a product called "PacerMonitor." I feel that this is not a coincidence.
"I said to my soul, be still, and wait without hope, For hope would be hope for the wrong thing."
- T. S. Eliot
- T. S. Eliot
TheoShmeo said:
I think it's cooler that I have a friend who's friends with Myers. So there!
dcmissle said:
What's the timing on this re: a stay?
If he's being considerate/sensible, I figure he'd probably issue his ruling in enough time so that the most affected party (Brady) can move for a stay. If he's ruling against the NFL, it really does not matter if he gets it out any particular time; however, it would give Brady/the Pats some mental relief re: knowing whether he'd be filing a stay/appealing, and what their literal game plan should be for the season opener.
Worst case for Brady would be the judge upholding the suspension, but not doing so until just before the season opener. What's the turnaround on an emergency Motion to Stay?