#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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I was coming on here to post that clip even though I can never get a youtube video to embed on here :Red(s)HawksFan said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Neoih-gRdbU
drleather2001 said:
Not to get your hackles up, and certainly not to suggest that the Patriots have some magical higher state of being or anything, but:
I think you could argue that almost all of the players in the NFL work pretty damned hard, some more than others, of course. For example, the Jets. They aren't so great with the results, but I bet they work pretty hard.
And they do NOT handle stuff like this the same way.
Even at work, you've probably seen office environments where people work quite hard, but also talk about stuff, complain about things, etc etc. And you've probably seen pretty buttoned-down environments where things are very serious, very business-like. I've worked in both. In my experience, the less "stringent" work venues have people who work really hard, and are very productive, and very talented. (There's a reason for this, but that's not for here)
Do I think it's The Secret to the Patriots's's sucess? Not really.
Do I think it might help them stay focused? Yeah I do.
The officials saying anything but "we did our jobs as instructed" would be the biggest NFL news of the season, and it wouldn't be very close.
Salem's Lot said:
This is what we're hoping for now? Calling Walt Anderson a liar? That they didn't do an official report that there's probably no requirement to do?
Great.
it's time for the politicians to join in.
http://www.redstate.com/2015/01/23/gops-sendeanheller-announces-big-problems-fixed/
http://www.redstate.com/2015/01/23/gops-sendeanheller-announces-big-problems-fixed/
Whatever the evidence, there is the issue for the NFL of no penalties issued from the Panthers game this very season.
Former Panthers GM
I like this quote the best
Some one should point out that taping from the sidelines was allowed in 2003.
I was about to post this I never heard the rumor that the Pats taped their walk through as well. Same interview but ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12216634/former-carolina-panthers-gm-marty-hurney-angry-spygate-amid-new-england-patriots-controversy)RSN Diaspora said:
I like this quote the best
We actually cheated and it was proven, be we did not know anything and took care of it. This is completely different.
Some one should point out that taping from the sidelines was allowed in 2003.
Honestly, if I'm testing footballs and I get to say, ball 18 of 48, and they all are clean, why the hell am I testing up to 48? That doesn't seem normal to me, but maybe that's just because I tend to take shortcuts.
So Senators now want punishment for "alleged" wrong doings.Dan Murfman said:
Our country is fucked, folks.
Stitch01 said:
Guy goes from GM of a Super Bowl team to an AM talk show host. I wonder why he's bitter.
DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
Yes. Because I truly believe that there's a much better chance that the ref rubber stamped the pre-game ball inspection because they thought they had better shit to do, then the odds that Tom Brady or Bill Belichick trusted a $10 an hour ball boy to fuck with the footballs after the ref check.
Corsi said:
If they were tipped off ahead of time, I could easily see them being thorough and testing every ball. That fits the "trying to catch the Pats" theory.
Did some senators weigh in when the players were knocking around their wives and kids? Seems a bigger issue with integrity. But thats just my opinion.
Deep throat talks at noon? I'm tired of your chickenshit games!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZi8n49RMGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZi8n49RMGE
Are all the balls stored in the same bag? Is there a primary bag or a backup bag? I guess what I am wondering about is how realistic is it for someone to break into the refs locker room and only deflate one of the two bags of balls and then know for certain that's the bag that goes out first.
Beyond that, some dude is deflating them within the 10 minutes between being given the balls and game time. They don't warmup with game balls? No video of when the balls make it outside?
Beyond that, some dude is deflating them within the 10 minutes between being given the balls and game time. They don't warmup with game balls? No video of when the balls make it outside?
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Every team tampers with the footballs. Ask any Qb In the league, this is ridiculous!!
11:51 AM - 21 Jan 2015
He's only weighing in because ALL the money in his state is tied to gambling. There is no battered family's PAC.
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Every team tampers with the footballs. Ask any Qb In the league, this is ridiculous!!
11:51 AM - 21 Jan 2015
McBride11 said:
He's only weighing in because ALL the money in his state is tied to gambling. There is no battered family's PAC.
Harry Hooper said:
I don't think the refs will actively try to call the game for or against anyone.
But I think they are all cramming with their rule book right now, and will be trying to call any sort of technicality to the very letter.
Sure, holding and PI and all that willl still be subjective, but they will be all over formations, elligibility, stuff like that. Or at least they will be making an effort.
(note: nothing about this is a conspriacy or a criticism...I just think the refs have their meeting and say "well, there's some extra scrutiny here. Let's call it by the book, right?)
I wonder how many times Belichick calls for an elligible/inelligible type play? They got technicalitied out of one last week (rightfully so, I guess).
Matt Leinart doesn't play anymore. Probably ripped out of the league when they found out he tampered with balls.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
In the midst of yet another cheating scandal, a former New England Patriots ballboy has come forward with even more salacious details of the culture that has fostered "The Patriot Way." According to an unnamed former ballboy of the New England Patriots, while he knowns nothing of PSI specifications of footballs, ex-New England Wide Receiver Tony Simmons "had a massive tripod c**k" that "had to be taped to his leg before physical activity." While no other sources have come forward to confirm this report, none have come forward since we spoke to this individual earlier this morning to deny it either. In addition, the same source tells us that "Drew Bledsoe had a small hog and was hated by everybody except the offensive line." This well-placed source assures is that he remains a New England Patriots fan and thinks "Deflategate" is "dumb as shit," but that he "felt obligated to come forward to set the record straight." While the ballboy never worked for the Patriots while Bill Belichick was the head coach, he did work there while Belichick was an assistant. He has confirmed to us that Bill Belichick knew of both of these juicy tidbits and yet he did nothing. While it was not his direct responsibility under Bill Parcells, he was within the chain of command and can be considered at least partially responsible. There is no word yet on whether the NFL has investigated this information in the past, or if they plan to in the future, but we will continue to work with our sources to keep you informed.
In the midst of yet another cheating scandal, a former New England Patriots ballboy has come forward with even more salacious details of the culture that has fostered "The Patriot Way." According to an unnamed former ballboy of the New England Patriots, while he knowns nothing of PSI specifications of footballs, ex-New England Wide Receiver Tony Simmons "had a massive tripod c**k" that "had to be taped to his leg before physical activity." While no other sources have come forward to confirm this report, none have come forward since we spoke to this individual earlier this morning to deny it either. In addition, the same source tells us that "Drew Bledsoe had a small hog and was hated by everybody except the offensive line." This well-placed source assures is that he remains a New England Patriots fan and thinks "Deflategate" is "dumb as shit," but that he "felt obligated to come forward to set the record straight." While the ballboy never worked for the Patriots while Bill Belichick was the head coach, he did work there while Belichick was an assistant. He has confirmed to us that Bill Belichick knew of both of these juicy tidbits and yet he did nothing. While it was not his direct responsibility under Bill Parcells, he was within the chain of command and can be considered at least partially responsible. There is no word yet on whether the NFL has investigated this information in the past, or if they plan to in the future, but we will continue to work with our sources to keep you informed.
Do any teams actually comply with this?
5.4:
"Article 2 All players must wear the equipment and uniform apparel listed below, which must be of a suitably protective
nature, must be designed and produced by a professional manufacturer, and must not be cut, reduced in size, or
otherwise altered unless for medical reasons approved in advance by the Commissioner. During pregame team warmups,
players may omit certain protective equipment at their option, except that helmets, shoulder pads, thigh pads and
knee pads must be worn."
5.4:
"Article 2 All players must wear the equipment and uniform apparel listed below, which must be of a suitably protective
nature, must be designed and produced by a professional manufacturer, and must not be cut, reduced in size, or
otherwise altered unless for medical reasons approved in advance by the Commissioner. During pregame team warmups,
players may omit certain protective equipment at their option, except that helmets, shoulder pads, thigh pads and
knee pads must be worn."
Colts GM Grigson is having a press conference right now. Don't have a link and about to go to a meeting. I imagine WTHR in Indy (Channel 13) will be live tweeting.
So: refs did their job. Colts complain, refs do their job again and take proper action to remedy the complaint. Patriots properly stonewall since it's beneath them to even engage the league on it, and fuck the Colts anyway (although they know the ball boy did it). League delays action until after the SB, at which point they fine the Patriots $25K for each ball. Most football fans apply a mental asterisk to the Patriots' 4th Super Bowl Championship, and sneeringly refer to them as the "Cheatriots" for all eternity (or until they forget). I'd be fine with this outcome.
Breaking: Bob Kraft has fired Bill Belichick in the wake of Helmetgate, citing "personal disgust in his recklessness" that Jimmy Garoppolo does not wear a helmet while throwing passes at pregame team warmups.
Either Frank Minnifield or Hanford Dixon used to play without. Is it technically legal for the team and support personnel to all come on the field after the last kneel down but before the clock has run out?
At this point I'm hoping the Pats win convincingly, Brady and Belichick retire, and I free up my autumn Sundays for the rest of my life. This whole thing is like the last twenty pages of Lord of the Flies. When the fuck does the British Navy get here?