Colin Kaepernick being investigated for sexual assault

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You scrounging around very little information for a narrative that makes her the villain and/ or complicit in it if it happened? And then extolling the virtues of waiting before assuming?
 
Nope.
 

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MYRTLE BEACH!!!!
You got the nope right. I'm not saying any of that, nor do I think it. 
 
I was responding to Baka, who asked if anyone could make sense of a quote that seemed to have contradictory facts based on a very limited amount of information. But since you're so good at pulling facts out of nothing, why don't you take a crack at a headline that says "Kaepernick investigated for sexual assault" and reconcile that with her statement that says "we did not have sex".
 
It's all speculation at this point until we get some real info, I thought I made that clear when I typed "its a reach" in my first sentence. 
 

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Odds are obviously high that he won't be charged (just bc of the nature of these things) but this has to put the contract talks on ice for a while, right?  You can't sign a guy to a massive new contract if there's even the remotest possibility of him being charged with sexual assault in the next couple months.
 

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PaulinMyrBch said:
You got the nope right. I'm not saying any of that, nor do I think it. 
 
I was responding to Baka, who asked if anyone could make sense of a quote that seemed to have contradictory facts based on a very limited amount of information. But since you're so good at pulling facts out of nothing, why don't you take a crack at a headline that says "Kaepernick investigated for sexual assault" and reconcile that with her statement that says "we did not have sex".
 
It's all speculation at this point until we get some real info, I thought I made that clear when I typed "its a reach" in my first sentence. 
 
I'm not good at pulling facts from nothing, which is why I kept my fucking mouth shut and refrained from projecting dipshit guesses onto a situation I'm not even remotely fully aware of.
 
So you countered baka with more baka. Cool, I was clearly way off.
 

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Problem is you didn't keep your fucking mouth shut. You just didn't speculate. So stay out of the fucking discussion since your obviously not in agreement with the level of the discussion. When we get it up to your standards, I'm sure you'll let us know.
 

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PaulinMyrBch said:
 
I was responding to Baka, who asked if anyone could make sense of a quote that seemed to have contradictory facts based on a very limited amount of information. But since you're so good at pulling facts out of nothing, why don't you take a crack at a headline that says "Kaepernick investigated for sexual assault" and reconcile that with her statement that says "we did not have sex".
Just throwing this out there but not every jurisdiction requires sex to charge sexual assault. Sexual assault could be a sexual battery which would include a non consensual act of the following: " 'Sexual battery' means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another or the anal or vaginal penetration of another by any other object; however, sexual battery does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose." - FL Statute 794.011

Disclaimer- I don't practice in Florida and I'm doing legal research on my iPad. Just trying to find an alternative answer to the question.
 

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To be a successful mobile QB in the league you need a felony rap sheet. Big Ben, Vick, McNair, VY, and now mr. Tattoos (that's sarcasm as I have one and want 2 more). This is just par for the course.

edit: phone autocorrections.
 

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As others have pointed out its a bit early to say how this will play out. A lot depends on the rape kit *and* inherent believability of the victim. If there's DNA and she's believeable the allegations could easily result in a prosecution, even without memory. If there's one but not the other, it'll be much tougher. Right now we have no data on either.

PS. The believability issue goes to her claim she did not have consensual sex that night with Kaepernick.
 

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PaulinMyrBch said:
Problem is you didn't keep your fucking mouth shut. You just didn't speculate. So stay out of the fucking discussion since your obviously not in agreement with the level of the discussion. When we get it up to your standards, I'm sure you'll let us know.
 
I was actually not in agreement with your level of discussion which, as per usual, is completely abysmal and boneheaded. But yeah, you're right, your breakdown of how the bong story was likely someone "setting up a story for later" and all that other insightful wisdom pulled directly out of your ass was definitely valuable! Keep it coming.
 
*you're
 

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You guys should either apologize or take it to pms.

Also, it's just ur.
 

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You guys should either apologize or take it to pms.

Also, it's just ur.
 
I dunno. I think the Bi-Annual Lombardis Sexual Assault Thread offers real value in showing people without direct experience in the area how these issues tend to go down.
 
This is like a pro bono thread for the forum. Public Service, yo--shit's real.
 

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SMU_Sox said:
To be a successful mobile QB in the league you need a felony rap sheet. Big Ben, Vick, McNair, VY, and now mr. Tattoos (that's sarcasm as I have one and want 2 more). This is just par for the course.

edit: phone autocorrections.
 
Russell Wilson says baloney.
 

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MalzoneExpress said:
He's the exception that proves the rule.
 
This is misused as much as "ironic".
 
Which is ironic.
 
OR IS IT?
 

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Kaep on Twitter:
 

@Kaepernick7 (1/3) The charges made in the TMZ story and other stories I’ve seen are completely wrong.  They make things up about me that never happened.
 

@Kaepernick7 (2/3)  I take great pride in who I am and what I do, but  I guess sometimes you have to deal with someone who makes things up.
 

@Kaepernick7 (3/3)  I want to thank all of the people who have shared their encouraging sentiments. I assure you that your faith is not misplaced.
 

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Thank you for this.
 
It really begs the question: why do people use expressions incorrectly so frequently?
 

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SeoulSoxFan said:
Kaep on Twitter:
 
 
Seems like this has pretty big disaster potential.  The tweets are obviously not vetted.  The guy may be totally innocent, but any inconsistency in his responses to this will be hammered.  Any inconsistency could also be used to argue that he's guiltily later - a lot of people don't know this, but if you make 100 statements about an event, with 99 being correct and one being false, there's an excellent chance the *only* thing a potential jury gets to hear is the false statement.
 
Usually if someone under investigation wants to appear forthcoming to the public, they can make a statement that includes some facts that are not (and could never reasonably be) in controversy.   However, you shouldn't call a (victim/alleged victim/complainant) a liar from the get go.  
 

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If Kaep was going to hang out with a Seahawk, he should've brought along Richard Sherman.
 

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DrewDawg said:
 
This is misused as much as "ironic".
 
Which is ironic.
 
OR IS IT?
"Russell Wilson is a successful mobile QB in the league without a felony rap sheet" (the exception) "proves" that a successful mobile QB in the league needs a felony rap sheet.(the rule). 
 
The word police on SoSH are obnoxious.
 

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MalzoneExpress said:
 
"Russell Wilson is a successful mobile QB in the league without a felony rap sheet" (the exception) "proves" that a successful mobile QB in the league needs a felony rap sheet.(the rule). 
In what way does it prove it?
 

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Perhaps, but we all remember what Sherman did the last time Kaep tried to "score".
 
Yes, we do.  That's the joke.  I'd call you Roethlisberger, but that seems odd in this thread/context.
 

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MalzoneExpress said:
"Russell Wilson is a successful mobile QB in the league without a felony rap sheet" (the exception) "proves" that a successful mobile QB in the league needs a felony rap sheet.(the rule). 
 
The word police on SoSH are obnoxious.
You have unwittingly confirmed that you don't understand the expression.

I'm sure many here would be happy to explain it. But you don't seem very open to that.
 

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Sigh. What's more obnoxious? Correcting a mistake, or being wrong and doubling down on it?
 
If you see a sign that says: "Parking Prohibited On Sunday" then you can infer that parking is permitted by rule the other 6 days. The exception (no parking on Sunday) proves the rule (it's allowed on the other days).
 

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Reverend said:
You have unwittingly confirmed that you don't understand the expression.

I'm sure many here would be happy to explain it. But you don't seem very open to that.
I mis-wrote. I should have stated:
 
"Other than Russell Wilson, a successful mobile QB in the league must have a felony rap sheet" (the exception) "proves" that a successful mobile QB in the league must have a felony rap sheet.(the rule). 
 

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MalzoneExpress said:
I mis-wrote. I should have stated:
 
"Other than Russell Wilson, a successful mobile QB in the league must have a felony rap sheet" (the exception) "proves" that a successful mobile QB in the league must have a felony rap sheet.(the rule). 
 
 

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MalzoneExpress said:
I mis-wrote. I should have stated:
 
"Other than Russell Wilson, a successful mobile QB in the league must have a felony rap sheet" (the exception) "proves" that a successful mobile QB in the league must have a felony rap sheet.(the rule). 
 
No.
 
The exception actually has to prove the rule. That's the point. And "prove" means, in this case, "confirms" or "establishes".
 

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SMU_Sox said:
To be a successful mobile QB in the league you need a felony rap sheet. 
 
 
DanoooME said:
 
Russell Wilson says baloney.
 
These two statement, mean "Other than Russell Wilson, a successful mobile QB in the league must have a felony rap sheet". Rusell Wilson is the exception that proves the rule "To be a successful mobile QB in the league you need a felony rap sheet.."
 
Reverend said:
 
:eek:hlord:
 
This is my last post on this topic.
 

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Dude, there's a difference in saying "There's an exception to every rule" and "The exception proves the rule". That's what you're hung up on. They do not mean the same thing.
 
 
http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/exception.html
 
 


The Latin original of this saying dates back over two millennia to Cicero. It means if you make an exception to a rule, a rule must exist. If you say “in case of fire students may use the emergency exits” it is clear that the rule is that normally students are not supposed to use those exits. Few people understand this point and they misuse the phrase “the exception proves the rule” to mean that a rule is not really a rule unless there is an exception to it. This makes no sense. It’s better to simply avoid this misleading phrase.
 

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Next up: Why announcers that say "ground rule double" are usually wrong!!!
 

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Ed Hillel said:
This thread is like rain on your wedding day.  
 
Damn, we are firing on all cylinders today.
 
Except for Malzone.
 

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That's one of the few things in that song that actually could be construed as ironic, fwiw.
 

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No, it's not. It's just one of the many examples of things that suck.
 
You don't think many people (I'd say women, but Rev will yell at me maybe) grow up thinking about how their wedding day is going to be bright and shiny, and just all around perfect? If so, rain on your wedding day is a prime example of situational irony. Expecting a sunny day is implied in the lyric.