Cherington press conference
- Thread starter DJnVa
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Short a bullpen arm, a thought about converting younger starters? Starters will remain starters and we'll add to bullpen
need more info on Vic tomorrow whether to DL
Starters will remain starters, either Paw or Bos
Relief will be filled from within
Starters will remain starters, either Paw or Bos
Relief will be filled from within
DrewDawg said:
So is Victorino going to the bench? DL? Are they going to put him on waivers and work out a trade with whomever claims him?
Edit: Question answered, at least in part, two posts above me.
DrewDawg said:
Between the lines: He can be a bit of an asshole from time to time
In which case, there were some very valuable pitchers around here the last few days.
"As painful as it was to get to this point" i.e. Tampa series the key, use opportunity to make trades
Tampa series result made them want to take advantage of unfortanate and unique circumstance (of being sellers at deadline)
SemperFidelisSox said:
You'd never get a real answer to that question. And I gotta believe everyone knows he wouldn't play for that amount.
Season: frustrating, disappointing...he' takes responsibility. The whole year has been challenging and we gotta get better
SoxInTheMist said:
People can keep posting this, but by no means is there a consensus that Lackey would absolutely not have played for the $500K next year. I certainly don't know anything about what he would or wouldn't do, and wouldn't pretend that I do. I'll go on the assumption that he'd play under the contract he willingly signed until I hear otherwise from him or his agent.
Red(s)HawksFan said:
How many players have gone from making millions per year to playing for $550,000 the next? Especially #2 starters. Ok, we can switch out the word "know" but I have more faith in winning the lottery tomorrow than Lackey playing for that amount next year.
P'tucket said:
Maybe he's politely listening on that before he goes for what he really wants...Heidi Watney for Steve Lyons, Gary Strealksdski, and a lock of Eck's moss.
Completely agree. I think people are treating it as a normal course of action--to me, sure he may do it, but he'd be burning some serious bridges considering it was a contract he willingly signed.Red(s)HawksFan said:
It definitely remains to be seen how well the Front Office did today, the future will tell, but my goodness they've got huge balls.
Red(s)HawksFan said:
I've always assumed he would honor his contract and be forthright about it, but I can't imagine anyone believes he'll be happy about it, and I think everyone here knows Lackey well enough to say that his emotional barometer affects his pitching. I'm glad that we got something valuable for that $500k year while moving whatever angst it might cause to another team. Put more simply, while I assume he would have played and tried to be a good citizen, I won't pretend not to be relieved it's someone else's headache.
It must suck being a Phillies fan while watching a similar team like the Sox at least try to shake things up. Amaro shouldn't be fired, he should be institutionalized to think standing pat was the move to make.
CaskNFappin said:
It must be like a never-ending cycle of September 2011-August 2012 over there. With a GM who says "no" over and over to the Punto trade.
I'd sort of forgotten about them. I would be breaking things right now. They did nothing.CaskNFappin said:
CaskNFappin said:
"We were not looking for exorbitant paybacks," Amaro said. "We were looking for players that would help us. I think we were very reasonable in the discussions that we had. Frankly, I don't think the clubs were aggressive enough for the talent we have on our club."
http://www.nj.com/phillies/index.ssf/2014/07/phillies_gm_ruben_amaro_says_other_clubs_werent_aggressive_enough_in_trade_talks.html
Outside of Hamels, who had the talent/contract that would be worth being aggressive?
CaskNFappin said:
It really is incredible. They're going nowhere, saddled with some very hefty contracts. They could have unloaded Hamels, Lee, and Papelbon, and probably gotten some very nice pieces in return.
Heck, depending on how they handled it, they may even have been able to get out from under the Howard contract.
Sucks to be a Phillie fan, that's for sure.
....Says the guy who wanted Seager, Urias, and Pedersen for Hamels!E5 Yaz said:
All these threads here on SOSH with joke trades for Stanton et al, and I could totally see Amaro being lost reading this forum without "/sarcasm"
SoxInTheMist said:
How many players sign contracts with that provision, love to compete at the game of baseball, then after making $108M over their careers don't honor their contracts? Mike Trout played at $1.1M after a 10+ WAR season. This isn't the NFL. I know the contract was unusual, but he got paid a lot of money to play horribly and then rehab from surgery instead of pitching competently, and I wouldn't expect him to do anything other than honor it unless I heard specifics otherwise.
And now he has told the Cardinals he will honor it, which seems like a non- news story, but at least is out there.
Whatever he'd decide to do, not honoring the contract in this context isn't some "well, yeah" kind of inevitability/ matter-of-course. I don't think anyone in baseball would see it that way.koufax37 said:
JohntheBaptist said:
I think the inevitability part is that he wouldn't have been happy about it. Whether he would have done it is another question. Sitting out a year is a serious decision for a guy at his career stage. It's basically putting one foot in the retirement ditch. So I think it's very possible that he would have played for that money even kicking and screaming all the way. But I strongly suspect that Ben is happy that's not his problem any more.