I'd rather see him wearing #37allstonite said:What is Pro Shop guy saying about this? Have they been told to start sewing "er" on the end of old Troy Brown jerseys?
I'd rather see him wearing #37allstonite said:What is Pro Shop guy saying about this? Have they been told to start sewing "er" on the end of old Troy Brown jerseys?
86spike said:I would imagine Browner isn't going to get big money from anyone with the 4 game suspension and the Ginger Sword Of Damaclese hanging over his head should he get popped again.
soxfan121 said:
Didn't stop John Elway.
86spike said:
who Talib?
He's only had one drug suspension, right? He isn't in the same penalty phase as Browner at all.
PaulinMyrBch said:
Sounds like buying a car. I once got an extra $500 off my wife's Explorer just because I was hungry and a Wendy's was 200 yards away.
Otto said:Apologies for the detour, but .... Teams handle visits differently, but it is not uncommon for teams to get the player in the facility and offer a contract to the player on the spot, then call the agent. In some situations, teams will even tell the agent something like "we have other visits lined up starting tomorrow, so we'd really like to get this done now and cancel those other visits." That's why agents will try to get numbers before agreeing to the visit, but it isn't always possible. I once had to call a player on a visit and tell him to leave the building to regain some leverage. He did it, too. Walked right out the door and stood in the parking lot. Team visits can be huge leverage swings. Players use scheduled visits against other teams and teams use visits to reel guys in while they are there. Its all fair game.
soxfan121 said:
He's got one drug suspension and three arrests. He's in a penalty phase of his own.
86spike said:
I'm talking about the mandatory substance abuse penalties.
Browner has 2 (even if the current one is a farce, which it is) and so one more is a mandatory 1 year suspension. It's the same place Von Miller finds himself.
soxfan121 said:
Oh, ok. So when Talib beats up a cab driver and has his legal Colorado weed on him, he's only looking at 8 games under the drug policy. And a lifetime from the Ginger Sword of Damocles for personal conduct.
Nothing to worry about then.
Don't be so sure.Smiling Joe Hesketh said:I somehow doubt Talib is going to go crazy in Denver. They're a good team, he's got Manning and Elway and Fox and Del Rio on the team and staff. Just like in NE he had Brady and BB and Mayo and Mankins around. I highly doubt Talib's going to cause any problems. He was a good soldier in NE and he'll be a good one in Denver as well in all likelihood.
Otto said:Apologies for the detour, but .... Teams handle visits differently, but it is not uncommon for teams to get the player in the facility and offer a contract to the player on the spot, then call the agent. In some situations, teams will even tell the agent something like "we have other visits lined up starting tomorrow, so we'd really like to get this done now and cancel those other visits." That's why agents will try to get numbers before agreeing to the visit, but it isn't always possible. I once had to call a player on a visit and tell him to leave the building to regain some leverage. He did it, too. Walked right out the door and stood in the parking lot. Team visits can be huge leverage swings. Players use scheduled visits against other teams and teams use visits to reel guys in while they are there. Its all fair game.
E5 Yaz said:Browner spotted at a Logan VIP area with Jim Thome
lambeau said:Rapoport getting a little frustrated on EEI--says agent now rescheduled Washington visit to try to leverage NE (obviously pissed he can't put this signing to bed)--stands by done deal with Pats.
At the risk of cluttering the thread, and giving the most wishy-washy answer ever, (most) teams are the same in that the situation will determine how they conduct business. A high priority guy with lots of options: plenty of leverage being exerted in both directions, a nice meal with someone on staff, and lots of effort to impress the player and tell him how much they want him. Another guy with fewer options and lower priority: pretty straight-forward, feel free to charge dinner and breakfast to your hotel room, here are the coaches, we like you, we'll send your agent an offer.bakahump said:
Otto,
Can you describe how a Pats visit usually goes? (if you know or have heard) You said teams handle them differently.....and its also said ...even by players who dont sign here.....that the Patriots are a class organization, great visit, etc etc.
I am just curious what constitutes a Pats visit as opposed to someone else. Is the Caf really that much better? LOL Are the 3 Lombardis in the trophy case really that cool? does Bob and Jon take a more hands on approach then many owners? Are players really that much more impressed with BB and his football savvy after sitting down with him?
E5 Yaz said:Browner spotted at a Logan VIP area with Jim Thome
Whenever Browner is found to have a stolen passport.NortheasternPJ said:
Not official until Wiggy's boys at Logan confirm.
At what point should we merge this with the Malaysia Airline thread in V&N?
NortheasternPJ said:
Not official until Wiggy's boys at Logan confirm.
At what point should we merge this with the Malaysia Airline thread in V&N?
Otto said:At the risk of cluttering the thread ...
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Thanks Otto. Great insight even if you consider it wishy washy.Otto said:At the risk of cluttering the thread,... we'll send your agent an offer.
If he is trying to get leverage then the deal isn't done.lambeau said:Rapoport getting a little frustrated on EEI--says agent now rescheduled Washington visit to try to leverage NE (obviously pissed he can't put this signing to bed)--stands by done deal with Pats.
tims4wins said:Hey Otto, don't you have a tee time or something you're late for
It's a decent agency:j44thor said:Is he Browners cousin or is he a real agent with actual other players?
This would be like a tax accountant taking the first week of April off for vacation.
You are an agent and it is the first 72hrs of FA. Aside from a couple hrs of sleep per night and a quick meal why would you be doing anything else besides focusing on your clients.
Super Nomario said:While Revis was a slam-dunk, I'm not sure what to think of the Pats' interest in Browner. He was a great fit for what Seattle was doing, but his lack of footspeed (he ran a 4.63 40 at the Combine, and that was 8 years ago) makes him suspect as an every-down CB in other schemes. With his size (6'4"), I'd think he could be useful in some matchups. Are they looking at him as a SS (to cover TE or physical Boldin-type receivers)? Is he a CB who might or might not play depending on matchup? I think it's pretty telling that Seattle appears to have no interest in re-signing him. I see him more as a potential interesting piece than a star they'd want to build around.
86spike said:I bet Browner met with the Pats, heard them woo him, decided he liked it there and wanted to sign, told his boys he was a Patriot, then his agent tore him a new one since the negotiation is nowhere near done and Brandon was giving away all their leverage. Again, the Pats aren't going to overpay a guy like this. The agent is probably desperately trying to find some leverage to improve the deal.
E5 Yaz said:Browner in DC, has a deal with the Capitals
Super Nomario said:I think it's pretty telling that Seattle appears to have no interest in re-signing him. I see him more as a potential interesting piece than a star they'd want to build around.
Yup, and as the cost of additional (perceived) leverage is just a travel day and a 1st class ticket to DC paid for by Snyder, why not play it out? And who knows he may have a more motivated buyer in the "skins.86spike said:I bet Browner met with the Pats, heard them woo him, decided he liked it there and wanted to sign, told his boys he was a Patriot, then his agent tore him a new one since the negotiation is nowhere near done and Brandon was giving away all their leverage. Again, the Pats aren't going to overpay a guy like this. The agent is probably desperately trying to find some leverage to improve the deal.
Is Browner a PED guy or a weed guy or both?Devizier said:
Seattle also appears to have no interest in re-signing Thurmond, either. Wondering if they're just trying to move on from the PED suspension guys.
Cabin Mirror said:Is Browner a PED guy or a weed guy or both?
Chad Finn:
What I think happened is that Browner was happy with the visit, started telling his friends he was going to sign here, Rap got it from one of his buddies, and went with it. Meanwhile, the agent, a defensive-minded third-line winger, was hoping to wring a few more bucks out of the Patriots by shopping him around before reaching a deal. I think he ends up here after visiting other teams, and Schefter and Rap both claim victory. Then Schefter impales Rap with a trident, then tweets out Rap's injuries and prognosis 20 seconds later. It will all make for a very special "A Football Life" someday.
"Adderall"DaughtersofDougMirabelli said:
Adderall and not taking NFL tests when he was playing for the CFL (probably smoking weed).
mikeford said:"Adderall"
They don't release what guys who fail PEDC tests get popped for.