The secondary is scary. If BB can sign a legit DE/pass rusher to pair with Jones he will have all he needs to be a freakin' defnsive mad genius again.
Brandon Browner is a New England Patriot
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Rapoport: "He never intended to visit the Redskins. The interest from Saints and Raiders wasn't real." War!
RedOctober3829 said:
That's exactly what I was thinking. Collins roaming the middle, Revis covering half the field, Browner in a CB/SS role, Arrington in slot, McD leaning the other half of the field.
And we got the kids rotating in. I am bullish on Logan Ryan and he will make the perfect nickel/dime corner.
W.O.W.
Wow...
I really hope we can sign a TE with our first or second pick to pair up with Gronk.
I miss the double TE set.
I really hope we can sign a TE with our first or second pick to pair up with Gronk.
I miss the double TE set.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjR7UhbTZkE[/youtube]
Watched this a few times already, and still amazed at the length of our newest CB. Not just a hard hitter, but he can flat out compete for the ball.
Apparently that's because he has a 6' 8" wingspan:
Watched this a few times already, and still amazed at the length of our newest CB. Not just a hard hitter, but he can flat out compete for the ball.
Apparently that's because he has a 6' 8" wingspan:
Ballhawks and great tacklers all over the secondary now. Mayo and Tommy Kelly back. Collins being a force of nature. Hightower maybe has it figured out. Give Chandler Jones and Nink someone else to knock the QB down and 21-24 points wins a lot of games next year.
That's going to be fun to watch, but man it would be nice to keep Vince around.
That's going to be fun to watch, but man it would be nice to keep Vince around.
Yes he can but its good to have two who can when we face teams with 2 good ones.ivanvamp said:
Adding Browner also frees up Collins to be used in the pass rush as Collins isn't the only guy who could stay with an athletic TE.
Of course, with the AFCE QBs being Geno, Manuel, and Tannehill with less than elite receiving corp, having Revis & Browner along with an already promising secondary looks even better.
I like the signing, but we're not overrating Browner are we? Honest question...I've just never heard him receive this kind of praise as a cover corner.
But I say that as someone who honestly didn't watch too many Hawks games this year.
But I say that as someone who honestly didn't watch too many Hawks games this year.
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/444627882824851456
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/444628491271548928
Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero So, whatever Browner gets this year for a base salary, he only collects half. #Patriots take 3/4ths on the cap. Interested to see breakdown.
Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero I should say Browner collects 9/17ths of his base salary (players get paid on the bye week).
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/444628491271548928
Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero So, whatever Browner gets this year for a base salary, he only collects half. #Patriots take 3/4ths on the cap. Interested to see breakdown.
Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero I should say Browner collects 9/17ths of his base salary (players get paid on the bye week).
His cover skills are good, but its his size and physicality are personally what I'm excited about. It's something they've needed since Rodney.H78 said:
I'm sure every NFLer looks awesome in their highlight reel, but Browner looks pretty damn good in his.
That hit on Welker is devastating.
That hit on Welker is devastating.
Thanks - I mean I know the name, and I know this means nothing but NFL.com had him ranked as their 89th best free agent, three spots behind Matt Cassel and one ahead of Josh Freeman.RedOctober3829 said:
I'm all for a physical presence in the secondary though, particularly one who only has to focus on unloading on one side of the field.
H78 said:
He's being overrated as a cover corner a little, yeah. His physicality is incredible as a press corner, but he can be beaten deep if you can get off the line of scrimmage from him. At the same time, when you have Revis on the other side and the safety can cheat towards your side of the field, it doesn't matter as much.
I prize this signing because I hope it brings hard hitting and more toughness to the defense. Have read before that Browner is the guy that taught other members of the Seahawks secondary to hold as much as they can get away with, which seems to work for them pretty well. Whatever it takes to improve this pass defense.
H78 said:
I'm excited to watch receivers heads actually need to be on a swivel, for too long it's seemed the pats dbacks have been finesse and have not been able to absolutely blow people up. Will be nice to see a CB on the pats over 5'10"... We've missed the swagger, and it's been gone for a few years. I think by year end he's the #3 coverage corner, but he'll be critical to shut down the TE or tall redzone receiver that has had their way with the pats in recent years.
McC, Revis, Browner, Ryan, Collins, Mayo, Hightower...
I don't think people are overrating him as a cover corner because nobody's talking about him being a cover corner.
He's the guy in the secondary who's going to lay some wood. They've clearly been looking for a guy to do that the last couple of years through some of the flyers and draft picks, and it didn't work out, so they said fuck it and just signed a legit DN hitter.
Google: "Brandon browner gif" It's like NFL snuff porn.
He's the guy in the secondary who's going to lay some wood. They've clearly been looking for a guy to do that the last couple of years through some of the flyers and draft picks, and it didn't work out, so they said fuck it and just signed a legit DN hitter.
Google: "Brandon browner gif" It's like NFL snuff porn.
mpx42 said:
Yeah I think you've got it right here. He's playing a role in the secondary. Revis isn't going to need help, so McCourty will be over the top of whoever's on the other side. If Browner is outside on someone in a particular match-up, his weaknesses will be covered up by McCourty. And if the main weapon to be worried about is a TE, then BB has a great match-up weapon against that kind of offense now, while still being able to lock down the #1 WR threat with Revis.
Basically, Browner would be an underwhelming replacement to Talib, but with Revis in the picture it allows you to pick and choose match-ups for Browner and give help if/when needed by rolling coverage. He's the perfect compliment to Revis, same way he was a great compliment to Sherman in Seattle.
H78 said:
I've seen several that have him ranked fairly low, too. Part of that is, for sure, due to his not-outstanding coverage deep, but I think larger variables are his age and the looming suspension, plus his status in the league's drug program.
He's got playmaking skill and a big wollop. I love the addition.
So Willie McG is smiling as wide as the Mississippi on the NFLN about all this. Then O'Hara starts talking about problems on the D-line. Willie smiles more broadly and says,"they can find those people in the draft." And Willie is right. It's something the Pars have done consistently well.
What I learned from that video: on approximately 85% of defensive snaps for the NEP this year, Brandon Browner is going to cause a turnover.
Seriously though, he really does seem to have "a nose for the ball". In a BB system where it's "do your job" and DR has the #1 CB job, Dennard the #2 CB job, I can totally see him as having the "cover someone, go F receivers up, get the ball back" jobs with great results.
Seriously though, he really does seem to have "a nose for the ball". In a BB system where it's "do your job" and DR has the #1 CB job, Dennard the #2 CB job, I can totally see him as having the "cover someone, go F receivers up, get the ball back" jobs with great results.
ragnarok725 said:
Good post. You'll get a better meal with a great chef and great sommelier than you will with two great chefs.
I've been doing a little (with major stress on "little") research into good pass Ds and CB size for a post or thread that may never happen. Regardless of that, it makes a lot of simple common sense to have a big guy with cover skills in the current NFL, with TEs doing what they do these days.
dbn said:
I was thinking the same thing.
The additions of Revis opens up so many coverage possibilities that the Patriots haven't had in a while. It's going to let them play tons of coverages with a single deep safety and that should mean a lot of Browner as an in the box "SS" guy with the freedom to roam around and make plays. With him at SS and Collins at WLB there's going to be a ton of wingspan and athleticism that's going to make it really hard for opposition teams' short passing games in the middle of the field
mascho said:
I'm confused. You just re-post the same Browner highlight youtube clip that was already posted? Read the thread first, please.
I am just thrilled to not think up 6 with the d going on the field with 80 yards to defend is a coinflip situation. Just thinking that we have a d capable of stops when they should get stops is a nice feeling as we sit here in march
Reverend said:The humor sadly eludes me...
I believe he was suggesting that the clip from The Replacements and Browner's highlight clip were indistinguishable.
Yes. We sniffed this early last year before all the injuries, we had a solid d. But now (at least on paper) this defense is more than solid. It's a weapon.southshoresoxfan said:
