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I'm not good with it. Denver is terrible. They should not be ahead of Miami, let alone NE, despite this weekend.

Although a case can be made for Miami ahead of NE. NE's offense could just be horrendous. Maybe it was the lack of practice, but look at Tennessee. The thing about the Pats is that you do expect them to get better as the season progresses. But their offense sucks. They don't have any tight ends. Edelman is washed. The running backs, excluding White's pass catching, are just average.

Harry, relative to so many studs who have been drafted over the past two years, absolutely sucks. I will not hear any more commentary about Harry needing time. Justin Jefferson. Chase Claypool. Do they need time?
i get the denver is terrible sutff but miller sutton fant boyce gordon and casey was all missing and they were all startser going into the year that denver num 1 def player 1 wr 1 te 1 cb 1 rb and 1 de

denver will most likey lose to KC next week but after that LAC ATL LV MIA and no gives denver a shot to go 4-1 dont be surprised if denver finish 8-8 or 9-7 and makes a run at the 7 seed only lost by 2 to Tenn and 5 to pitt and the teams denver has lost to is 14-2 combine
 

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i get the denver is terrible sutff but miller sutton fant boyce gordon and casey was all missing and they were all startser going into the year that denver num 1 def player 1 wr 1 te 1 cb 1 rb and 1 de

denver will most likey lose to KC next week but after that LAC ATL LV MIA and no gives denver a shot to go 4-1 dont be surprised if denver finish 8-8 or 9-7 and makes a run at the 7 seed only lost by 2 to Tenn and 5 to pitt and the teams denver has lost to is 14-2 combine
Fair point on the talent on the team.

But the power rankings are for this year and include injuries. And with all those injuries, a solid team that had some supreme talent is now depleted and has a 2-3 record with a -10 point differential. It would be insanely impressive for this team to finish 9-7.
 

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1 KC 6-1 they beat denver soundly with just a ok game by the off
2 Pitt 6-0 they will lose in the playoffs most likely at home
3 tenn 5-1 they play like the 01 pats but tanneyhill is not a championship qb
4 balt 5-1 jackson gets exoped when he tryies to pass from the pocket
5 Cle 5-2 they are much betther than last year
6 buff 5-2 kind of shakey
7 indy 4-2 rivles is done but the rest of the team is there
8 LV 3-3 too up/down for me
9 mia 3-3 shouild stack with fitz for a while longer
10 lac 2-4 i like herbert guy has talent but their ownship is cheap as hell
11 den 2-4 yes denver sucked today but they have lost to every top team but seattle
12 NE 2-4 unlees the offense picks it up they are looking at 6-10
13 hou 1-5 they are denver 2.0 but have a qb but little else elway needs to think about calling houton in the offseason and see if 3 1st plus a 2021 2rd and 2022 3rd couild get watson to denver as hou needs to rebuild and denver with a qb of watson skill set wouild give kc a fight
14 ciny 1-4-1 burrow and mixion are pro bowl guys but nothing on def cheap ownership will doom ciny
15 jax 1-5 with 2 good drafts this team will be good in 2022
16 nyj 0-7 the jets have a plom 1 draft Lawrence or use lawrence for a hearel walker type package from just spitballing INDY DEN DALLAS WASH Tampa bay if they win the superbowl and brady retires
 

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Tier 1:

1. KC
2. PIT
3. BAL
4. TEN

Tier 2:

5. BUF
6. LV
7. MIA

Tier 3:

8. INDY -- Next 4 will be telling: Ravens/Titans/Packers/Titans
9. CLE
10.DEN

Tier 4:

11. NE
12. LAC
13. CIN
14. HOU
15. JAX

Tier 5:

16. NYJ
 

j-man

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tier 1
1 pitt
2 kc

tier 2
3 balt
4indy
5 tenn
6 buff

tier 3
7 lv
8 den
9 mia
10 cle

tier 4
11 ne
12 ciny
13 lac
14 hou
15 jax

tier 5 16 nyj
 

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PIT
KC

BAL
TEN

BUF
LV
IND

MIA
CLE

DEN
NE
LAC
CIN
HOU
JAX

NYJ
 

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You're being modest about your Phins. On a neutral turf, I'm taking Miami over Indy, LV, and even with Buffalo.
Indy and Vegas are pretty good, but I agree with your general sentiment. I think getting rid of the space between Indy and Miami and having 5 teams in that tier is my list.

aside: Cleveland could go 11-5; schedule is easy from here. Only a couple tough games left.
 

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You're being modest about your Phins. On a neutral turf, I'm taking Miami over Indy, LV, and even with Buffalo.
I would feel better if Miami’s offense looked better last week. We’ll feel out how Tua integrates into the offense. I think Miami’s D and special teams are for real but the offense might take a few weeks to gain traction.
 

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i know the Monday night game has yet to be played but i will be busy the next 24-48 hours

1 KC Tier 1
2 Pitt
3 Buff
4 Balt tier 2
5 Tenn
6 MIA
7 LV
8 CLE tier 3
9 INDY
10 NE
11 DEN
12 CINY tier 4
13 LAC
14 HOU
15 JAX
16 JETS tier 5
 

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BAL
TEN

BUF
MIA
LV
IND
CLE

DEN
NE
LAC
CIN
HOU
JAX

NYJ
 

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tier 1
1 KC
2 PITT

Tier 2
3 Buff
4 LV
5 MIA
6 INDY
7 TENN
8 NE
9 BALT
10 CLE
TIER 3
11 LAC
12 CINY

TIER 4
13 HOU
14 DEN
15 JAX

TIER 5
16 NYJ
 

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AFC is log jammed at 6-3. Titans currently sitting in 9th place is absurd to me.
 

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I am putting PITT second, but really, they are they that impressive? They have beaten 1 good team (BAL, which I am not sure if they are really all that good) and 1 pretty good team (Tenn) - the other wins are against Giants, Eagles, Broncos, Cowboys, Texans, Bengals and Browns of which 5 of those teams range from bad to pathetic. Still, they are undefeated, and I cannot justify any other team above them ...

Tier 1
KC
PIT

Tier 2
BUF
IND
BAL
TEN
MIA

Tier 3
CLE
NE
LV

Tier 4
CIN
LAC
DEN
HOU
JAX

Jets Tier
NYJ
 

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  1. KC​
  2. Pit​
  3. Bal​
  4. Buf​
  5. Ind​
  6. LV​
  7. Ten​
  8. NE​
  9. Cle​
  10. Mia​
  11. Den​
  12. Hou​
  13. LAC​
  14. Cin​
  15. Jax​
  16. NYJ​
 

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Not really. Miami has beaten basically no one.
Beat the Rams. Currently 9th in team DVOA.

Beat Arizona on the road. Currently 11th in team DVOA.

Miami is 10th in DVOA. NE is 25th. But you’re probably right.
 

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Beat the Rams. Currently 9th in team DVOA.

Beat Arizona on the road. Currently 11th in team DVOA.

Miami is 10th in DVOA. NE is 25th. But you’re probably right.
A case can be made and it starts and ends with COVID...but it's a weak case.

Until the Pats start stacking multiple wins in a row, Miami should definitely be ranked higher
 

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And New England beat Miami and Baltimore. We’ll talk after the Dolphins get blown out in the first round.
 

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And New England beat Miami and Baltimore. We’ll talk after the Dolphins get blown out in the first round.
So you have the Dolphins making the playoffs? That alone should place them ahead of NE, at this juncture.

As a Miami fan living in NE, it's been fascinating to see how quickly some Patriots fans have have stepped away from the ledge and hushed on the, "Blow it up!" for a QB talk after needing a 4th-quarter comeback to beat the Flacco-led Jets, followed by a weather-assisted win over the Ravens. (Note: Sarcasm aside, the win over Baltimore was impressive. But the stars certainly aligned a bit for that one.)

The Patriots are 4-5 and their remaining schedule is: @HOU, AZ, LAC, @LAR, @MIA, BUF, NYJ

How many of these games do you see NE winning?
 

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I am putting PITT second, but really, they are they that impressive? They have beaten 1 good team (BAL, which I am not sure if they are really all that good) and 1 pretty good team (Tenn) - the other wins are against Giants, Eagles, Broncos, Cowboys, Texans, Bengals and Browns of which 5 of those teams range from bad to pathetic. Still, they are undefeated, and I cannot justify any other team above them ...

Who is going to beat the Steelers in the regular season? Game 16 might be big for the Browns and meaningless for the Steelers. Other than that, where would a loss come from?
 

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So you have the Dolphins making the playoffs? That alone should place them ahead of NE, at this juncture.

As a Miami fan living in NE, it's been fascinating to see how quickly some Patriots fans have have stepped away from the ledge and hushed on the, "Blow it up!" for a QB talk after needing a 4th-quarter comeback to beat the Flacco-led Jets, followed by a weather-assisted win over the Ravens. (Note: Sarcasm aside, the win over Baltimore was impressive. But the stars certainly aligned a bit for that one.)

The Patriots are 4-5 and their remaining schedule is: @HOU, AZ, LAC, @LAR, @MIA, BUF, NYJ

How many of these games do you see NE winning?
You've been patiently waiting what, 20 years to write this?

Good for you, the Dolphins are actually relevant again vs being nothing more than ants at a picnic.

Come back and talk to us when they actually, oh I don't know, win a playoff game.

Something that hasn't happened in 20 years.
 

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You've been patiently waiting what, 20 years to write this?

Good for you, the Dolphins are actually relevant again vs being nothing more than ants at a picnic.

Come back and talk to us when they actually, oh I don't know, win a playoff game.

Something that hasn't happened in 20 years.
You've been a fan of a team that's won 6 Super Bowls over the span of 20 years, and you're tweaked over reading a Miami fan rationalize their place above said team in an AFC Power Ranking thread? Holy snowflake.

Listen, I've been a Dolphins fan since '86-ish. The experience of the last 2 decades make your written words feel like a warm hug. I'm definitely looking forward to a future playoff win!
 

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You've been a fan of a team that's won 6 Super Bowls over the span of 20 years, and you're tweaked over reading a Miami fan rationalize their place above said team in an AFC Power Ranking thread? Holy snowflake.

Listen, I've been a Dolphins fan since '86-ish. The experience of the last 2 decades make your written words feel like a warm hug. I'm definitely looking forward to a future playoff win!
Yeah, that was incredibly petty and obnoxious.

There is no world in which the Pats should currently rank ahead of Miami in the AFC.
 

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So you have the Dolphins making the playoffs? That alone should place them ahead of NE, at this juncture.

As a Miami fan living in NE, it's been fascinating to see how quickly some Patriots fans have have stepped away from the ledge and hushed on the, "Blow it up!" for a QB talk after needing a 4th-quarter comeback to beat the Flacco-led Jets, followed by a weather-assisted win over the Ravens. (Note: Sarcasm aside, the win over Baltimore was impressive. But the stars certainly aligned a bit for that one.)

The Patriots are 4-5 and their remaining schedule is: @HOU, AZ, LAC, @LAR, @MIA, BUF, NYJ

How many of these games do you see NE winning?
Are we ranking where each team will end up at year end in the standings or their relative strengths? In my eyes the Patriots are the better team currently, but will probably end up losing to LAR, Buf, and Mia to finish 8-8. Having the only starting QB to come down with a case of COVID and miss significant time as a result absolutely matters along with playing the Ravens and Texans instead of the Jaguars and Bengals (I would expect Mia to lose to Bal because they’re frauds).

Miami will probably lose to KC, LV, and Buf to finish an extremely soft 10-6. If that makes them the better team in your eyes then enjoy your success. The only people I knew in New England who rooted for the Dolphins did so because the Pats sucked and they looked to root for a winner, so the front running chirpiness from you and your fellow Phins fans in this board is unsurprising.
 

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You've been a fan of a team that's won 6 Super Bowls over the span of 20 years, and you're tweaked over reading a Miami fan rationalize their place above said team in an AFC Power Ranking thread? Holy snowflake.

Listen, I've been a Dolphins fan since '86-ish. The experience of the last 2 decades make your written words feel like a warm hug. I'm definitely looking forward to a future playoff win!
You rationalizing the Dolphins place in the AFC power rankings here on this forum has nothing to do with my comments, like the power rankings here matter.

It has more to do with this sudden chirpiness from you and other Dolphins fans who've been laying in the weeds for 20 years waiting for the worm to turn.

I've been a Patriots fan since 1968, seen a lot of bad teams, seen some decent close but no cigar teams, seen a 20 year run which will probably never, ever be matched again.

You don't need to be so huffy 9 games into the season, so relax, let's just see where things shake out at the end of the year, sound good?
 

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Yeah, that was incredibly petty and obnoxious.

There is no world in which the Pats should currently rank ahead of Miami in the AFC.
You think my comment was incredibly petty and obnoxious?

"Incredibly" John?

Oh gee; I guess I'll have to learn to live with the disappointment.
 

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Are we ranking where each team will end up at year end in the standings or their relative strengths? In my eyes the Patriots are the better team currently, but will probably end up losing to LAR, Buf, and Mia to finish 8-8. Having the only starting QB to come down with a case of COVID and miss significant time as a result absolutely matters along with playing the Ravens and Texans instead of the Jaguars and Bengals (I would expect Mia to lose to Bal because they’re frauds).

Miami will probably lose to KC, LV, and Buf to finish an extremely soft 10-6. If that makes them the better team in your eyes then enjoy your success. The only people I knew in New England who rooted for the Dolphins did so because the Pats sucked and they looked to root for a winner, so the front running chirpiness from you and your fellow Phins fans in this board is unsurprising.
I think Miami's finally trending in the right direction as an organization, but I'm certainly not counting any chickens. If the Dolphins are able to win their next 3 games (they'll be favored) -- @DEN, @NYJ, CIN -- which would make 8 consecutive wins, they'll being in good position at 9-3. If that happens, I think they'd have a more than decent shot to split their final 4 -- KC, @LV, NE, @BUF -- for a possible 11-5 record. If that were to happen, I'd be ecstatic; but a lot can happen from now until then, especially in a COVID season.

I think kids become fans of sports teams for various reasons. But regardless of why, I think anyone who remains steadfast in their fandom through adulthood and 20+ years of suck while the local team enjoys historic success, has earned their stripes.

If you're predicting NE to finish 8-8, with a loss to Miami in Week 16, I think we both agree that the Dolphins are the better team this season. I don't consider saying so in an AFC general thread "chirpy".

You rationalizing the Dolphins place in the AFC power rankings here on this forum has nothing to do with my comments, like the power rankings here matter.

It has more to do with this sudden chirpiness from you and other Dolphins fans who've been laying in the weeds for 20 years waiting for the worm to turn.

I've been a Patriots fan since 1968, seen a lot of bad teams, seen some decent close but no cigar teams, seen a 20 year run which will probably never, ever be matched again.

You don't need to be so huffy 9 games into the season, so relax, let's just see where things shake out at the end of the year, sound good?
This is your imagination. We've had a Dolphins-centric thread on this forum for years, and it's remained very active. During that time, the handful of Fins fan contributors have always posted in general NFL threads, such as this one. The only difference now? Miami doesn't suck, and the Patriots might just be average. We'll see. I think your sensitivity to this possibility comes with having enjoyed New England's sustained success over many years. I get it; this sort of change is hard.

Especially when you consider the fact that Tom Brady's gone, Bill Belichick will be 69 by the start of next season, and Cam Newton's a JAG. Shit can change really, really fast for an NFL franchise. Who knows? NE's next 20 years might resemble Miami's previous two decades.

(Now that's chirpiness.)
 
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You think my comment was incredibly petty and obnoxious?

"Incredibly" John?

Oh gee; I guess I'll have to learn to live with the disappointment.

You should chill a bit on this. You root for a normal football team now, albeit one with the best Coach in NFL history.
 

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You should chill a bit on this. You root for a normal football team now, albeit one with the best Coach in NFL history.
As it stands today, yes, they are what would be considered a normal football team.

The season is not over yet.

We'll see at the end of the year how things shake out.

That's the beauty of professional sports; there is no script.
 

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I think Miami's finally trending in the right direction as an organization, but I'm certainly not counting any chickens. If the Dolphins are able to win their next 3 games (they'll be favored) -- @DEN, @NYJ, CIN -- which would make 8 consecutive wins, they'll being in good position at 9-3. If that happens, I think they'd have a more than decent shot to split their final 4 -- KC, @LV, NE, @BUF -- for a possible 11-5 record. If that were to happen, I'd be ecstatic; but a lot can happen from now until then, especially in a COVID season.

I think kids become fans of sports teams for various reasons. But regardless of why, I think anyone who remains steadfast in their fandom through adulthood and 20+ years of suck while the local team enjoys historic success, has earned their stripes.

If you're predicting NE to finish 8-8, with a loss to Miami in Week 16, I think we both agree that the Dolphins are the better team this season. I don't consider saying so in an AFC general thread "chirpy".



This is your imagination. We've had a Dolphins-centric thread on this forum for years, and it's remained very active. During that time, the handful of Fins fan contributors have always posted in general NFL threads, such as this one. The only difference now? Miami doesn't suck, and the Patriots might just be average. We'll see. I think your sensitivity to this possibility comes with having enjoyed New England's sustained success over many years. I get it; this sort of change is hard.

Especially when you consider the fact that Tom Brady's gone, Bill Belichick will be 69 by the start of next season, and Cam Newton's a JAG. Shit can change really, really fast for an NFL franchise. Who knows? NE's next 20 years might resemble Miami's previous two decades.

(Now that's chirpiness.)
You call it what you want.

I call things like I see them.

Good for you and your stripes earning; I've earned mine too, as stated I've been a Patriots fans since 1968 and whether they were bad (historically), mediocre, good but not great, very good but couldn't finish the job or historically good for an insane amount of time, I've been a fan.

The Patriots have given me more than any fan could ask for and nothing lasts forever, they are still competitive this year and as a fan, that's all I can ask.

Right; Miami doesn't suck and the Patriots are average and change is hard and Brady is gone and Belichick will be 69 and Cam Newton's a JAG and shit can change really, really fast and who knows, New England's next 20 years might resemble Miami's previous two decades.

Wish in one hand and hope in the other and see where it gets you.

Or maybe Miami has been lucky and the Patriots and Cam Newton have been hit by COVID and they and him are shaking the rust off and Belichick will work his usual late season magic and the team will get hot at the right time and they'll make the playoffs and go on a run and win another super bowl and heads across the NFL including yours will explode.

Chirp that.
 

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We don’t agree that the Dolphins are the better team, we agree that they’ll finish with the better record. Again it depends how you view power rankings. If your goal is to rate which teams would beat each other on a neutral field as of when you rank them I would take the Patriots. I’m taking into account the effect COVID has had on each team, strength of schedule, and luck. Tua had multiple throws that should have been picked off last week and the Dolphins would have lost at home to the Chargers for example (who aren’t good).

If your goal is to rank the teams by how they’ll finish record wise you might as well just use the current standings and make some slight adjustments. I view the 2020 Dolphins as a paper tiger who will show their true stripes in time. I also view the 2020 Patriots as a mediocre team which is why I ranked them 8th in their own conference.
 

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So you have the Dolphins making the playoffs? That alone should place them ahead of NE, at this juncture.

As a Miami fan living in NE, it's been fascinating to see how quickly some Patriots fans have have stepped away from the ledge and hushed on the, "Blow it up!" for a QB talk after needing a 4th-quarter comeback to beat the Flacco-led Jets, followed by a weather-assisted win over the Ravens. (Note: Sarcasm aside, the win over Baltimore was impressive. But the stars certainly aligned a bit for that one.)

The Patriots are 4-5 and their remaining schedule is: @HOU, AZ, LAC, @LAR, @MIA, BUF, NYJ

How many of these games do you see NE winning?
4 at most @ hou is their best shot and the jets for ne to make the playoffs they need to be 10-6
 

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You've been a fan of a team that's won 6 Super Bowls over the span of 20 years, and you're tweaked over reading a Miami fan rationalize their place above said team in an AFC Power Ranking thread? Holy snowflake.

Listen, I've been a Dolphins fan since '86-ish. The experience of the last 2 decades make your written words feel like a warm hug. I'm definitely looking forward to a future playoff win!
miami has a really good team elway needs to take notes i think tua can be a drew brees type but with running abilty it might take 2 more years for miami to win a playoff game but if tua turns into brees u will have plenty of time to talk smack
 

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You rationalizing the Dolphins place in the AFC power rankings here on this forum has nothing to do with my comments, like the power rankings here matter.

It has more to do with this sudden chirpiness from you and other Dolphins fans who've been laying in the weeds for 20 years waiting for the worm to turn.

I've been a Patriots fan since 1968, seen a lot of bad teams, seen some decent close but no cigar teams, seen a 20 year run which will probably never, ever be matched again.

You don't need to be so huffy 9 games into the season, so relax, let's just see where things shake out at the end of the year, sound good?
1968 damn kudos to u if i was a pats fan miami would scare me long term brian f is a top 10 coach and he has took a team 32 in talant last season to low teens in talant but they had 100 mil in cap room and 3 1st round picks as well
 

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1968 damn kudos to u if i was a pats fan miami would scare me long term brian f is a top 10 coach and he has took a team 32 in talant last season to low teens in talant but they had 100 mil in cap room and 3 1st round picks as well
Yup, I've seen a lot of downs to go along with the ups. Wherever this team goes from this point forward, I will always be a fan. You have to stick with your team good or bad, thick or thin, am curious to see how many of the Patriots fans who started their fandom in 2001 will stick around if this team goes south.

Ownership here won't allow it, they have a lot to lose financially..........once this shitshow blows over, they don't want their team playing to a nearly empty stadium and have all the restaurants and shops in Patriots place be empty.

They still have the best coach in the business running the show and there are still 7 games left.

The 2001 team was sputtering along similar to how this one is.

That season turned out pretty good last time I checked.
 

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So you have the Dolphins making the playoffs? That alone should place them ahead of NE, at this juncture.

As a Miami fan living in NE, it's been fascinating to see how quickly some Patriots fans have have stepped away from the ledge and hushed on the, "Blow it up!" for a QB talk after needing a 4th-quarter comeback to beat the Flacco-led Jets, followed by a weather-assisted win over the Ravens. (Note: Sarcasm aside, the win over Baltimore was impressive. But the stars certainly aligned a bit for that one.)

The Patriots are 4-5 and their remaining schedule is: @HOU, AZ, LAC, @LAR, @MIA, BUF, NYJ

How many of these games do you see NE winning?
At least 5 I see them winning. The ones I’m not sure on are Rams and Dolphins. But the rest I see them winning.
 

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Who is going to beat the Steelers in the regular season? Game 16 might be big for the Browns and meaningless for the Steelers. Other than that, where would a loss come from?
Ravens? Bills? Colts? Bengals? Browns? All of them could ... who knows if anyone will though
 

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If the Steelers go 16-0 in this pandemic season I’d have to say it would be the most impressive regular season of all time. I don’t care what their schedule is.
 

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If the Steelers go 16-0 in this pandemic season I’d have to say it would be the most impressive regular season of all time. I don’t care what their schedule is.
I mean, Pittsburgh isn't THAT good. It's amazing to me that we're having even a semi-serious conversation about them going 16-0. Their margins of victory in their nine wins:

10
5
7
9
31
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4
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AVG: +11.1

So in 5 of their 9 wins, the other team was within a score.

When the Pats went 16-0, here were their margins of victory:

24
24
31
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45
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46
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21
10
21
3
AVG: +19.7

I mean, in 12 of the 16 games, the Pats won by 10 or more. In 10 of the 16, they won by 20 or more. That was UTTER dominance. The Steelers haven't come close to that. But still, covid and all...yeah it would be incredible if they did it.