8/6 I’m mad as hell
- Thread starter Lose Remerswaal
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Earlier in the game O'Brien asked Youk and Wake if losses like yesterday linger for a team. I would like to hear from some MLB players about the effect of not making moves at the trade deadline on a team that was as hot as the Sox were in July. Devers literally told the press he felt the FO owed it to the team to make some significant moves. I wonder how it impacts the clubhouse to essentially get the opposite message from the FO.
Has there ever been a game thread when no one was around in the 9th, when the posts simply stopped in the 8th (or earlier)?
Eventually, you need starters to win you a game. This team has been lacking starters for 2 months and nothing was done.
Glaringly lacking and little conversation. Bloom with his TB years feels like bullpen games are the way to go.
Our Boston Red Sox have now been swept 6 times this season at Fenway. There is something wrong with this team.
Thankfully they didn't make any significant moves that cost them anything of value. This "clubhouse" isn't good enough to have warranted burning assets.
I posted yesterday that if players throw in the towel when they are in the thick of a playoff race just because the FO didn’t get a #4 or 5 starter, then they are so mentally fragile that they weren’t going to survive the playoffs anyway.
These guys are professionals who should be mentally tough enough to give 100% regardless of what the FO does.
It’s called they did not have enough good baseball players to begin with, then most of their pitchers got hurt.
True, maybe they will go on another winning streak. They did have a 7 game win streak against the Jays.
I was never a professional athlete. But I was a salaried professional and I can say that my management set the tone for my department. I was a salaried exempt (from being paid overtime) employee. I had some really good supervisors who would look out for us, checked on how we were doing, had our backs and ran interference for us when necessary. We’d go the extra mile for those guys and in some cases run through a wall for them. I also had a couple of really shitty supervisors. Those guys really didn’t know, or care, what we were up against and only cared about making themselves look good. As far as we were concerned those guys could go screw themselves. We’d still do our jobs, but only enough not to get noticed for not doing them. No way we’d answer our phones on nights or weekends, and if we somehow had to stay late one night you could bet your ass that we’d get the time back by coming in late or leaving early the next few days. And we weren’t being paid hundreds of thousands, or millions, of dollars and needed our jobs. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the same way in a major league clubhouse. Sure the players will show up and play, but will they be taking the extra BP, taking pregame drill’s seriously or will they just be hanging out bs’ing?
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The Red Sox have 51 games left in the season. Almost 1/3 of the season still to go. The players are going to try to win as many of them as they can because winning baseball games is a hell of a lot more enjoyable than losing them.
People here need to get a grip.
People here need to get a grip.
Snow Tiger touches on what I have to imagine eventually weighs down on these players...they are still human. I would also venture to guess many of us don't have jobs with 40,000 spectators (some drunken) screaming at us or the world of social media or message boards dissecting our every move at work all year long.
Yes, winning is a lot more fun and I was not insinuating that the Sox are out there intentionally tanking games, I am only wondering if it just becomes more of what Snow Tiger posted. At what point do these players/humans have the same "Crap, I have to go to work" mindset that any of us get when things suck at work and we have crappy leadership?
Also, their performance in even meaningless games impacts their future earning potential. “Going through the motions” would literally be taking money out of their pockets. I think that the more likely reason why a lot of them look so bad is because they’re not very good MLB players to begin with. And the losing started a week before the trade deadline.
I feel like Mary Ann Vecchio kneeling over the corpse of a Red Sox season shot down abrubtly, in horrifying fashion.
100 percent agree. They always seem dead ball because nothing happened at the trade deadline.
Of course if Raffy hadn't been playing like dogshit for giant swaths of the season, the decision to buy would probably have been a lot easier.
This is such a tired take. They are human beings. All human beings are impacted by the the actions of the people around them, frequently in ways we don't understand. And if your boss told you that your team wasn't that good (i.e., that you were "underdogs") you'd be impacted, too.
On the plus side, the foundation for my she dis almost complete. This was a tough game to listen to.
This was first Fenway game ever for my son. Loss was disappointing, but having to explain it is not normal for the other team’s fans to be far more vocal than the Sox fans really sucked. The only energy from our side was when Pablo came in to pitch. Not sure what NESN showed, but the pitch types shown at Fenway were hilarious. Slow ones from 38-42 all called either curveball or slider. His heat was 84-85 and labeled as a change up.
I spoke with a bunch of jays fans today, as most of the left side of park was in Toronto blue. They have a holiday weekend in Ontario, Quebec is just finishing a 2-week holiday, and almost all were here for the 3 games. Lined up perfectly for many of them to catch the entire series
I spoke with a bunch of jays fans today, as most of the left side of park was in Toronto blue. They have a holiday weekend in Ontario, Quebec is just finishing a 2-week holiday, and almost all were here for the 3 games. Lined up perfectly for many of them to catch the entire series
Sure I might not “like it”, but I wouldn’t be dogging it out there if that happened.
For the record, I dont believe the “these guys quit!!” narrative. That take is more tired than mine IMHO.
They started losing on the west coast before the trade deadline and a bunch of bats went cold at the same time. That’s what happens in baseball….particularly on a team that isn’t a juggernaut. The Red Sox have looked like a fringy wildcard team for a long time now this season where they look great in bursts and look awful in others. We’re in one of the awful stretches. I think part of the “human“ aspect of both the players and the fans is we all love to have an easy explanation for winning and losing. The easy explanation is the FO fucked all of us over by not getting great players at the deadline so the team was disheartened and started losing. But it’s very likely an incorrect explanation for the reasons stated above including that the losing started before the deadline.
The Yankees have played great since the trade deadline and they didn’t do anything either. Huh…. Interesting
10000000 percent agree. It doesn’t feel even remotely like a theory that some folks want to believe works despite the numerous counter examples or the complete lack of definitive proof.
