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Over Guapo Grande

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1.5 months into the new year and no thread?

I signed up for a February 4 Pack of lessons at the X-Golf locally. It was the first time I have ever had a teacher/pro tell me "Swing as hard as you can" .Some good results came out of that first lesson, lets see if I remember anything next week.
 

bsan34

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I kind of had to do that in my simulator league the other night. Had gotten all in my head trying to hit certain positions and was just swinging so slowly and tensely and was kind of a mess on the whole.
 

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First non qualifying 9 holes last week. 48 over nine, irons ok, driver all over the place. Been working out hard this winter, so im positive going into the better weather. It has been horrendous here, wind, snow, water. Course is still closed this weekend.

Did a local 18 hole match, 116 with a lot of wind. First nine lost about 6 balls, second nine lots of shanks.

Last friday another nine, 48 again but an eight on the last hole. Much better.
 
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Mooch

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Played a nine hole scramble today at my local executive 9, Charlie Yates: -6 finish. I played out of my mind. Made three 20+ foot putts, hit almost every par 3 green and drove a 260 yard par 4. I should never play again.
 

jmm57

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Did fittings at both PXG and Club Champion this week.
Irons were a tough call between the PXG Gen6 and the Srixon zx5, but ended up going with the Srixon. The Ping g430 LST driver was a clear winner for me- actually pretty unbelievable how much it fixed the nearly unplayable shot I was hitting with everything else. Overall both we’re good experiences- I knew I wanted new irons for sure either way, but now couldn’t imagine just buying something off the rack. With promos, PXG was only $25 for the fitting (applied to any purchase) and $100 for a 3.5 hour full bag at Club Champion.
 

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Titleist is running their buy 3 get a 4th dozen free promotion. Comes out to $44 per dozen.
Thanks for the reminder. What’s also cool is you can customize your numbers if you have a particular preference. Going with 99 this year. 9 was my dads favorite number (because of Teddy Ballgame).
 

mostman

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Sent my clubs off for new shafts after a fitting at Club Champ. 10g lighter than the old ones. Getting old!
 

Deathofthebambino

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Got 18 in at Shaker Hills in Harvard on both Saturday and Sunday. Short game was brutal, conditions weren't the best, but it's March, but honestly felt pretty good about how I was striking the ball for this time of year.

Shaker was in pretty good shape for this time of year, and more importantly, they have carts, although cart path only.
 

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Got 18 in at Shaker Hills in Harvard on both Saturday and Sunday. Short game was brutal, conditions weren't the best, but it's March, but honestly felt pretty good about how I was striking the ball for this time of year.

Shaker was in pretty good shape for this time of year, and more importantly, they have carts, although cart path only.
I was 2 groups behind you on Saturday. Thought it was you, saw the Andover bag, but wasn't positive and you went up to the tee and teed off so didn't have a chance to say hi.

I was shocked at how good the conditions of the greens were. They were in good condition for May, let alone March. Big miss having the bar closed though.
 

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Last week, me and 4 other guys won our Topgolf winter league (50 teams total). A lot of fun and a good way to spend some Monday nights since January to keep swinging. We get free entry into a future league and a little bit of swag.

I was scoring amongst the highest at the place although no means the best golfer in real life. But the key for the game is to have a consistent "miss" and adjust your aim accordingly.
 

steveluck7

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Last week, me and 4 other guys won our Topgolf winter league (50 teams total). A lot of fun and a good way to spend some Monday nights since January to keep swinging. We get free entry into a future league and a little bit of swag.

I was scoring amongst the highest at the place although no means the best golfer in real life. But the key for the game is to have a consistent "miss" and adjust your aim accordingly.
Which one? We had a team in the RI Top Golf. I think we were 9th going into the playoffs but lost in the first round.
 

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Which one? We had a team in the RI Top Golf. I think we were 9th going into the playoffs but lost in the first round.
Yup, the RI location. We were 4th ranked during the regular season, but between 1st week upsets then semifinals I believe we were playing a lower ranked team in the final.
 

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Getting back into the game after nearly a 10 year break. Dropped from Stiff to Regular flex clubs for my irons and holy crap it is making a huge difference. I lost about 10 yards on my shots but things are much straighter and much more repeatable swing wise. Turns out I was likely overswinging tremendously so slowing my swing down a bit (as a mid 40 year old this was coming anyways) has made my game much more constistent.
 

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I was 2 groups behind you on Saturday. Thought it was you, saw the Andover bag, but wasn't positive and you went up to the tee and teed off so didn't have a chance to say hi.

I was shocked at how good the conditions of the greens were. They were in good condition for May, let alone March. Big miss having the bar closed though.
Damn, would have been good to catch up. I drank their last 4 Guiness on Saturday from the fridge in the pro shop, so they didn't have any for St. Paddy's on Sunday. Lol
 

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First outdoor round of the season today at Wachusett with my 5 year old son. Was much chillier than expected and the course was set up really tough! Somehow with zero warmup i hit the purest 7 iron of my life (after a bigtime wipey fade off the tee) that lipped out from about 170 to open the season with a kick in bird. Bogeyed the last 2 to open with a pedestrian 80 but the ball striking and putting should improve so there is hope. Last 2-3 holes out there were brutal, probably about 45 degrees with a freezing wind in our face - I hit hybrid into 18 which is usually a 5-6 iron for me and still came up short.
 

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First round of the year and was happy with the results. Got fitted for brand new clubs last fall and really starting to see the difference, especially with Driver. Shot an 86 and only missed 2 fairways all day. The two I missed were just off in the rough. My new driver (Titleist) has helped with both distance and accuracy. Previously, I was hitting the ball much higher and with more spin. That was the main focus of the fitting was to bring down the spin and it has made a huge difference.

Lost many strokes chipping and putting but I will chalk that up to early season rustiness (I hope).
 

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I decided to try Arccos this year since I had my irons reshafted which gave me the sensors and the trial. I’ve been super impressed so far. Just the automatic tracking of shots for score keeping alone is worth it. All the additional analytics on top are even better. The app is tremendously well done and has a ton of data options. I especially like the comparisons to other golfers of my handicap level. I’m using my Apple Watch to manage the round, so I can keep my phone in my bag, that’s working great. The subscription is expensive, but I’m already used to paying a subscription for a score keeping app.

Now if I could find the guy in my club that is marking the pin locations about 2 yards away from the actual pin and ask him to do better (or play later in the day), things would be perfect.
 

jmm57

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I’ve been trying Arccos this year too and agree, it’s been mostly great. A couple oddities with it adding or subtracting a putt here and there after I enter it, but mostly very accurate on tracking. The GPS yardages don’t seem as accurate for my course as the Golfshot app- but that might be specific to my course.

It’s mostly been worth it to me just to prove that my full swing irons/approach is what is killing me (relative to other golfers my level) and not short game.
 

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Haven't played yet this year but am excited to get out soon and try out my new Srixon driver and new putter that I won at a tournament last fall.
 

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Help me buy some clubs. I think this is the second time I've posted on SoSH about buying clubs but wasn't ready then, apparently.

Having outfitted the wife with starter clubs and the son, I am now ready finally.

For starters, the fam and I have been taking lessons. 9 in total, now. We are ready to hit the links or whatever you say.

Money isn't (much of) a concern. I mean I don't want to spend a fortune because maybe I end up hating golf. But, I am willing to spend over 1k for example to get started.
I'm in my mid-40s and in good shape but not strong like at all so although I don't know my swing speed I'd imagine it's slow as both a beginner and a relative weakling.

After a bit of research, I'm thinking regular flex and graphite shafts. Also, I'm right at the edge of standard size clubs so I lean that way but not entirely sure whether to adjust by .5.

If this sounds like I'm on the right path please let me know. I also read that brand clubs will come in a bit different standard sizes so as person at the edge of what's recommended for standard size maybe the brand will effect my decision.

Finally, if anyone reads this and is like I think what he's looking for makes sense so I would recommend these clubs, I am all ears. Thank you, much!
 

bsan34

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You can easily outfit a bag with used gear for $1k. Callaway Preowned is your friend. Great customer service, and they’re usually conservative with how they grade their gear. You can get their 3 year old drivers, for example, the Epic Max/Epic Speed line for like 100-150 depending on the current deal. Glad to offer some specific brands / club lines once you get to that point.

You can always go swing some clubs at a PGA Superstore, Golf Galaxy, Golfers Warehouse to get an idea of swing speed. Golfers Warehouse in Braintree has a ton of used clubs that you can test on a monitor and figure out swing speed, brands you like, shaft that’s working best for you, etc.
 

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Used is the way to go. Definitely ask whoever is giving you lessons for general recommendations. They'll have suggestions from what they've seen in your lessons.

Lean cheaper on irons, wedges, and putter. If you do keep playing odds are you'll want or need something different in time anyway.

Ask anyone you know who golfs if they have some old stuff lying around. It's rare for golfers to not have a garage or basement with some odd woods, wedges, or putters gathering dust. Though, used club prices seem to have gone up lately so folks may be trading in more.
 

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I’ve been trying Arccos this year too and agree, it’s been mostly great. A couple oddities with it adding or subtracting a putt here and there after I enter it, but mostly very accurate on tracking. The GPS yardages don’t seem as accurate for my course as the Golfshot app- but that might be specific to my course.

It’s mostly been worth it to me just to prove that my full swing irons/approach is what is killing me (relative to other golfers my level) and not short game.
The putter is by far the one club that gets added shots the most. I think it has to do with how I carry it or what I do before and after shots.

The real-time yardage has been pretty accurate for me, I’ve been testing it using a range finder as a comparison. At first I didn’t realize that the green numbers are adjusted for slope, condition, and position. The white numbers are actuals. Before I knew that, I also questioned the yardage.

On the measured yardage, one thing I’ve noticed is when I get up to a ball my watch will say I hit it a yardage that I know is wrong. Like 10-15 yards wrong. But then later when looking at the scorecard, it’s updated. Not just the adjusted yardage, but the actual. So I think there’s some lag built in there to keep the battery from getting smoked.

Loving this tech though, and I think all the complaints I have so far can be fixed with better software. For example, on the watch let me update the pin location, let me set the lie (sand shots), etc.
 

mostman

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Help me buy some clubs. I think this is the second time I've posted on SoSH about buying clubs but wasn't ready then, apparently.

Having outfitted the wife with starter clubs and the son, I am now ready finally.

For starters, the fam and I have been taking lessons. 9 in total, now. We are ready to hit the links or whatever you say.

Money isn't (much of) a concern. I mean I don't want to spend a fortune because maybe I end up hating golf. But, I am willing to spend over 1k for example to get started.
I'm in my mid-40s and in good shape but not strong like at all so although I don't know my swing speed I'd imagine it's slow as both a beginner and a relative weakling.

After a bit of research, I'm thinking regular flex and graphite shafts. Also, I'm right at the edge of standard size clubs so I lean that way but not entirely sure whether to adjust by .5.

If this sounds like I'm on the right path please let me know. I also read that brand clubs will come in a bit different standard sizes so as person at the edge of what's recommended for standard size maybe the brand will effect my decision.

Finally, if anyone reads this and is like I think what he's looking for makes sense so I would recommend these clubs, I am all ears. Thank you, much!
The one suggestion that should be followed is get fitted. And don’t get fitted by the folks that work in the retail stores, they aren’t great. Get fitted by a professional club fitter. I prefer Club Champ but there are tons of excellent fitters out there. The person giving you your lessons might be able to suggest a fitter. I know you might say “But I’m just starting out, standard clubs are probably fine.” The thing is, the wrong clubs can make you bad. And then you’ll think you have to fix something with your swing, and waste all your practice and lesson time. Get fitted.
 

Over Guapo Grande

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I'll give a moderate applause for that. Certainly on easy/straightforward chips... I start thinking of hot dogs at the turn or something, then go chunk, skull, stub, 3 putt.
 

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One of pro golf’s most controversial terms of competition was just changed.

One of golf’s most controversial and punitive terms of competition was just changed — and professional golfers are likely to endorse it.

According to a memo sent to PGA Tour players on Tuesday, an amendment was made regarding the rules — or, more technically, terms of competition — surrounding “When a Scorecard is Returned.” Effective immediately, players will now have a 15-minute buffer to correct an error on a scorecard even if they have already left the scoring area.

The news was first reported by Associated Press golf writer Doug Ferguson on Sunday, although Tuesday’s note from the Tour provided further details.

According to the memo:

— If a scorecard is validated in the scoring system and the player has left the scoring area, he may return to correct an error within 15 minutes of its validation.

— If a player has left the scoring area and an error is identified before the scorecard is validated in the scoring system, he may return to correct the error within 15 minutes of the error being identified by the scoring official.

— If a player is in the scoring area when the 15 minutes expires, his scorecard is returned when he leaves the scoring area.
The PGA Tour clarified to GOLF.com that players who sign incorrect scorecards would be notified by the Tour. At that point they’d have 15 minutes to return and resolve the issue without penalty or disqualification. The Tour added in the memo that there may be exceptions, however, “when constraints within the competition limit a player’s correction time to less than 15 minutes, such as releasing tee times following the cut, starting a playoff, or the close of the competition.”

The scorecard penalty or disqualification has long been a source of controversy. Its most famous example came at the 1968 Masters, when the late Roberto De Vicenzo thought he was about to face Bob Goalby in a Monday playoff. But playing partner Tommy Aaron incorrectly gave De Vicenzo a 4 instead of a 3 on the 17th hole in Sunday’s final round, De Vicenzo failed to catch it and signed the scorecard. Per USGA rules, he had to take the higher score on his card (the 4), meaning he missed out on the playoff. Goalby won the Masters by a stroke.

More recently, this rule came into effect at the 2024 Genesis Invitational in February. Jordan Spieth was disqualified on Friday afternoon following his second round. Spieth, who we later found out was not feeling well, shot a two-over 73 but signed for a 3 on the 4th hole when he actually made a 4.

According to the USGA’s current rules, if a score returned was higher than the actual score for the hole, the higher score stands. If a score was incorrectly marked as lower than the actual score, the player is disqualified.

The new term will go into effect on the PGA Tour, PGA Tour Champions, Korn Ferry Tour, PGA Tour Americas and DP World Tour.
 

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Mental I suppose. If speed is off, more likely on longer putts, might hit the stick and stop? Plus the flag stays in peripheral vision better than just the hole. When ready to hit the ball can still see flag out of corner of eye.
I think for the few putts that have hit the stick and not dropped, I’ve had as many hit the stick and stopped closer than they would have without hitting the stick
 

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Unless I have a sidewinder of a putt, and my line is nowhere near the flag, or if I have a serious downhill putt from over 10 feet or so, I always pull the pin.

For me, it's just the way I started playing, and what I'm used to...I cringe every time I see an opponent leave a flag in that is clearly leaning in their direction.
 

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Unless I have a sidewinder of a putt, and my line is nowhere near the flag, or if I have a serious downhill putt from over 10 feet or so, I always pull the pin.

For me, it's just the way I started playing, and what I'm used to...I cringe every time I see an opponent leave a flag in that is clearly leaning in their direction.
You nailed it: the problem with leaving the pin in is it's often not straight. So you can end up with it playing goaltender. But it's a good backboard from long range when distance control is iffier. Shorter make-able putts? I think if you're playing seriously the move is to pull it.

I leave it in because I'm lazy. I'll go with the flow if someone else in the group actually wants it out. The worst thing you can do is create a dance where it goes in and out for each person in the group for their preference. Bad stuff that.
 

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You nailed it: the problem with leaving the pin in is it's often not straight. So you can end up with it playing goaltender. But it's a good backboard from long range when distance control is iffier. Shorter make-able putts? I think if you're playing seriously the move is to pull it.

I leave it in because I'm lazy. I'll go with the flow if someone else in the group actually wants it out. The worst thing you can do is create a dance where it goes in and out for each person in the group for their preference. Bad stuff that.
This is me. If I'm playing solo I leave it in out of laziness / early Covid era golf (when I really first started playing) when we thought you could catch Covid by touching stuff. When I'm playing with others I just roll with whatever.
 

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FIL made an ace on Saturday. So awesome.

115 yards, uphill. He hit it right at it, saw it bounce but couldn't see it finish since it's uphill. I said good shot, that might be really close. I went next and came up short and could see the ball roll back onto the fringe. 3rd guy in the group goes and duffs it. 4th guy goes and hits a nice shot that is at it but comes up short. Driving up to the green we see my ball and another ball about 8 feet short. 4th guy gets there first and and marks the ball that was 8 feet away. I go and chip up. The duffer is duffing. 4th guy and my FIL are searching all over the sides and the back of the green. After I chip. they are still looking for the ball. The old "did anyone check the hole?" gets thrown out there. I'm closest to the hole and going to mark my ball. Take a peek in, sure a shit, the ball is in the hole and I yelled "No fucking way!"

4th ace I've seen in-person. Always so cool.
 

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FIL made an ace on Saturday. So awesome.

115 yards, uphill. He hit it right at it, saw it bounce but couldn't see it finish since it's uphill. I said good shot, that might be really close. I went next and came up short and could see the ball roll back onto the fringe. 3rd guy in the group goes and duffs it. 4th guy goes and hits a nice shot that is at it but comes up short. Driving up to the green we see my ball and another ball about 8 feet short. 4th guy gets there first and and marks the ball that was 8 feet away. I go and chip up. The duffer is duffing. 4th guy and my FIL are searching all over the sides and the back of the green. After I chip. they are still looking for the ball. The old "did anyone check the hole?" gets thrown out there. I'm closest to the hole and going to mark my ball. Take a peek in, sure a shit, the ball is in the hole and I yelled "No fucking way!"

4th ace I've seen in-person. Always so cool.
Two of my friends are in a weekly men's league on Thursday nights at HIckory Hill in Methuen. I fill in for them when one of them can't make it. First time I've played there in 15-20 years (started playing there with my dad quite a bit when we first learned the game together in my 20's). We play the back, and the dude I'm playing against (it's a weird format, you're on a team, but you each play one guy on the other team) hits a beautiful shot into an elevated green (17th there if anyone knows the course). I'm like, "that could have gone in). The rest of us hit, and as we're driving up first, I don't see a ball on the green where his should be, so I pull out the phone and when they drive up behind us, I tell him I have the video rolling and he should go check the hole, and sure enough, it's in. First one I've seen that wasn't one of mine in my life (I have 2). Then as we're celebrating, his 70 year old partner chips in for a 2 net 1. So they made a combined net 2 on the hole, my partner and I both had completely irrelevant birdie putts. LOL
 

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Two of my friends are in a weekly men's league on Thursday nights at HIckory Hill in Methuen. I fill in for them when one of them can't make it. First time I've played there in 15-20 years (started playing there with my dad quite a bit when we first learned the game together in my 20's). We play the back, and the dude I'm playing against (it's a weird format, you're on a team, but you each play one guy on the other team) hits a beautiful shot into an elevated green (17th there if anyone knows the course). I'm like, "that could have gone in). The rest of us hit, and as we're driving up first, I don't see a ball on the green where his should be, so I pull out the phone and when they drive up behind us, I tell him I have the video rolling and he should go check the hole, and sure enough, it's in. First one I've seen that wasn't one of mine in my life (I have 2). Then as we're celebrating, his 70 year old partner chips in for a 2 net 1. So they made a combined net 2 on the hole, my partner and I both had completely irrelevant birdie putts. LOL
No shit, the hole my FIL aced was 17 at Hickory Hill. We play the back every Saturday morning.

Edit: We didn't have the camera rolling, but got it out of the card for when he picked it up. I wish we went back and took a picture from the tee but it was sort of chaos and confusion and there was a group behind us. When we drove up I thought the ball 8 feet short was my FIL's. I hadn't really paid attention to the finish of the 4th guy's shot. Knew he mumbled "short" so I thought he was on the fringe or something like me but I never looked. As soon as I chipped up and realized they couldn't find my FIL's ball, I knew where it was. I have bad eyes (retinopaathy) but that hole is the easiest one for me to track balls and I knew that thing was headed right at the stick, pitched short of the hole and there was no fucking way it went long (it was a front pin). The 4th guy made the birdie putt and we had a laugh about not winning the honor with a 2.
 
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Heading down to Myrtle Beach tomorrow.
Playing True Blue on Tuesday and Caledonia on Friday (may switch to Thursday cause weather) Cant wait!
Love those two courses!
 

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I second this. I want to head back to Myrtle just to play that course and then sit on a rocking chair with a cocktail and watch the golfers come up 18!!

Also ... playing some of the best golf of my adult life lately and was sternly punished by the golf gods on Saturday. I made the cardinal error as I walked up to 18 on my course ... I counted my score and realized I only needed a par on the final hole to break 80 (I'm a 12 something index for context). I had been driving the ball great all day and have found distance off the tee generally since I was fitted with a new Titleist driver last fall. I promptly proceed to pull my drive next to a stone wall and make a six for an 81. Still a good round but oh man what could've been.

Have any of you experienced new found length later in your years (I'm 53)? I am not exaggerating when I say I have gained somewhere in the 30-50 yard range on my driver. Likewise, I am hitting my hybrids a silly distance compared to how I hit them pre-fitting. It is currently a different game for me as I am literally hitting 9 iron and wedge into holes I previously hit hybrids into. DOTB witnessed it recently when we played together in a 1 day MG when I was +1 on the back going into 18. I don't feel like I have changed a ton in my swing but am playing more for sure and a couple of lessons which got me to turn (vs. sway) more consistently. I haven't yet scored consistently but I am enjoying the game quite a bit at these distances. My 3-day MG is next week so I probably just jinxed myself.