2023 QB Carousel

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I think Goff might get extended.

One thing to watch on the Ravens..... I think there is a non-zero chance there is a new Head Coach in BAL next year. Lot of discontent in the locker room and fanbase, 1 playoff win in the last 8 seasons....
 

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This is a really tricky one. Goff had a far better season than anyone might expect and he's just 28. Ditching him at this point might not go over well in a locker room that has really started to believe in its chances.
I get what you're saying, but moving on from Goff seems like a move that could easily backfire
Yeah those guys rallied around Goff. I'd think twice before messing with the chemistry.
 

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You're telling me Bill is going to give up draft capital AND sigh a massive contract extension to bring in a QB who is probably on the downside of his prime?

...color me skeptical
 

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The wild thing is that other than TB12, there isn't one guy on the list to whom a team should feel comfortable paying huge money. If you're Harbaugh and are sick of Lamar, is there anyone on this list you'd take over Huntley? If TB12 goes to Miami, is Josh going to be willing to sign James G to more than a 1-year deal?
You'd be comfortable paying huge money to the guy who played last night and kicking a decent, young QB to the curb? Obviously Tua needs to be OK physically if we're talking about Miami, but this idea that Brady is the savior for some of these teams doesn't seem correct to me.
 

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You're telling me Bill is going to give up draft capital AND sigh a massive contract extension to bring in a QB who is probably on the downside of his prime?

...color me skeptical
I think those odds reflect more that a lot of the betting public, especially in New England, is NOT as skeptical as they should be.
 

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You'd be comfortable paying huge money to the guy who played last night and kicking a decent, young QB to the curb? Obviously Tua needs to be OK physically if we're talking about Miami, but this idea that Brady is the savior for some of these teams doesn't seem correct to me.
This is the reason the Jets make the most sense for Brady. They may be simply a league average to average plus QB away. If they think White is that guy it makes no sense. Wilson is not that guy.

And if nothing else, it makes the Jets a massive story for the next year. Something Jets ownership has long been obsessed with.

It seems like windows to win in the NFL are incredibly small absent having a top 3 QB. Look at the Rams.

Put Brady on the Jets, add some pieces, and you possibly have a team that can contend. Sign Derek Carr or Geno Smith and you are risking riding the .500ish wave for the next few years.

Worst case is Brady isn’t good. In which case you sign next year’s Geno Smith or draft someone and hope or figure out if you have something in White.
 

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Patriots: Perhaps wishful thinking, but I’d like to see them bring a veteran to camp to compete with Jones and Zappe for the starting job.
I believe Kyle Allen is a free agent.
 

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Without knowing the cap situation, Lamar on the Jets makes a ton of sense considering what each side would want. Lamar gets paid and a huge market, with a team that’s not too far away. Jets get an actual answer* at QB that fires up a fanbase that is perpetually demoralized. They’re definitely a playoff team even with “going forward” Lamar Jackson.

*not a sure thing, could go in all kinds of directions. I actually think Lamar could evolve into a more pocket-oriented QB and be good playing that style, but who knows how healthy he can stay regardless.
 

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You'd be comfortable paying huge money to the guy who played last night and kicking a decent, young QB to the curb? Obviously Tua needs to be OK physically if we're talking about Miami, but this idea that Brady is the savior for some of these teams doesn't seem correct to me.
Miami doesn't have a decent young QB anymore. Do you remember Eric Lindros? Once you get a few concussions, they become increasingly easy to get. Tua will never play a full NFL season again.
 

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Miami doesn't have a decent young QB anymore. Do you remember Eric Lindros? Once you get a few concussions, they become increasingly easy to get. Tua will never play a full NFL season again.
Except there’s probably dozens of instances of NFL QBs suffering multiple concussions and still having productive and successful careers.

Tua had zero diagnosed concussions before this season. He has about 8 months to rest and heal before taking an NFL field again. Will it be something that may pop up again. For sure. Is his career over and should Miami be moving in from him because of this? Absolutely not.

Jaelen Phillips, Tua’s teammate, was forced to medically retire from UCLA due to multiple concussions. He hasn’t suffered one since in three seasons playing for UM or the Dolphins.
 

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This is the reason the Jets make the most sense for Brady. They may be simply a league average to average plus QB away. If they think White is that guy it makes no sense. Wilson is not that guy.

And if nothing else, it makes the Jets a massive story for the next year. Something Jets ownership has long been obsessed with.

It seems like windows to win in the NFL are incredibly small absent having a top 3 QB. Look at the Rams.

Put Brady on the Jets, add some pieces, and you possibly have a team that can contend. Sign Derek Carr or Geno Smith and you are risking riding the .500ish wave for the next few years.

Worst case is Brady isn’t good. In which case you sign next year’s Geno Smith or draft someone and hope or figure out if you have something in White.
I can't see Brady even considering NYJ. He is way too concerned about his media perception and legacy to pull a Favre to the Vikings type of move and no way would he want to deal with the media circus of playing against Bill/NE as a core divisional opponent 2X per year.

I'm still sticking with LV as by far the most logical choice. Reunite with Josh and get to play with an elite WR, good slot and pass catching TE. Sure KC is in the division but Kelce can't produce forever can he? Plus I think Brady loves playing against Mahommes and would welcome the opportunity to face him.
 

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You're telling me Bill is going to give up draft capital AND sigh a massive contract extension to bring in a QB who is probably on the downside of his prime?

...color me skeptical
I hope he strongly considers it. The QB carousel is a slow and insidious ride and Bill probably doesn't want to spend his remaining coaching years hoping that Mac or the next guy takes the leap. In this era of the NFL, it seems far less likely to eek out a Dilfer/Flacco Superbowl so you either need an elite pocket guy or a mobility guy(or both if you're lucky enough to have Allen or Mahomes). It's obviously a hugely risky play, but with the way Lamar was playing in the early part of the season, I feel comfortable in saying there's gas in that tank. My gut says Bill loves Lamar.
 

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I hope he strongly considers it. The QB carousel is a slow and insidious ride and Bill probably doesn't want to spend his remaining coaching years hoping that Mac or the next guy takes the leap. In this era of the NFL, it seems far less likely to eek out a Dilfer/Flacco Superbowl so you either need an elite pocket guy or a mobility guy(or both if you're lucky enough to have Allen or Mahomes). It's obviously a hugely risky play, but with the way Lamar was playing in the early part of the season, I feel comfortable in saying there's gas in that tank. My gut says Bill loves Lamar.
What makes you think BB loves him???
 

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The Jets have a tight salary cap, but there are a couple of potential cut/trade candidates that could free up enough space to sign Lamar Jackson to a new contract that defers most of the hit to 2024 and beyond. I think they would make a lot of sense, as they have a team that could truly contend with a good QB, and Lamar, if healthy, qualifies as a very good QB. And the Jets seldom worry about the long term anyway.

The Patriots have a number of holes on the offense, and bringing in a Jackson prevents them from adding the other key pieces that they really need. And the reality is that Jackson's career window is likely to be very short (1-2 years), and I don't see Belichick wanting to go down that path.
 

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What makes you think BB loves him???
Mainly I think that Harbaugh and BB like similar players. BB always pined after Ed Reed, he snatched up Judon, and further back the brought in Adalius Thomas. They both love fullbacks; BB would throw Patricia into a live volcano to have a Patrick Ricard. And they both seem to have trouble staffing the WR position in the modern era of football :( I guess BB being the ultimate football guy would love to coach a guy like Lamar who's so dissimilar to any other QB he's ever coached. I think he'd love the challenge.

Edit - Justin Bethel too.
 

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I think the Jets are more likely to sign Carr than Lamar. Cheaper and less uncertainty than with Lamar, given his health and dependence on mobility.

Assuming of course the Jets can protect Carr well enough to be productive.
 

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The wild thing is that other than TB12, there isn't one guy on the list to whom a team should feel comfortable paying huge money. If you're Harbaugh and are sick of Lamar, is there anyone on this list you'd take over Huntley? If TB12 goes to Miami, is Josh going to be willing to sign James G to more than a 1-year deal?
A lot of guys on that list won't get huge money. If I'm BAL and I'm moving on from Lamar I give
Here’s how I see the carousel:

Bucs: They could roll with Kyle Trask, but more likely, their Week 1 starter isn’t on the current roster. Tom Brady to the carousel, though of course he could retire.

Colts: Week 1 starter isn’t on the current roster. Matt Ryan to the carousel.

Commanders: Week 1 starter isn’t on the current roster. Taylor Heineke and Carson Wentz to the carousel.

Falcons: Marcus Mariota is under contract for another season, but I think they’ll look to acquire a long-term solution at the position, likely retaining Mariota either as a backup or to mentor a rookie who needs seasoning.

49ers: Expect they will roll with Purdy or Lance. Jimmy G to the carousel.

Giants: Daniel Jones is a free agent. Would’ve said with confidence a week ago that he wouldn’t be tagged, but now who the hell knows. Putting him on the carousel.

Jets: Week 1 starter isn’t on the current roster. Mike White likely stays as a backup. Zach Wilson to the carousel.

Lions: Jared Goff has a $30.6m cap hit for 2023 and a $10m dead-cap number. Putting Goff on the carousel because I think the time is ripe for the Lions to acquire their long-term QB.

Panthers: Week 1 starter isn’t on the current roster. Sam Darnold to the carousel.

Patriots: Perhaps wishful thinking, but I’d like to see them bring a veteran to camp to compete with Jones and Zappe for the starting job.

Raiders: Week 1 starter isn’t on the current roster. Derek Carr to the carousel.

Ravens: A week ago, I would’ve said Lamar is back on a tag or a long-term deal unless someone offers three first-round picks. Now I’m not so sure — Lamar’s injury seems more serious than we thought, and no-showing a playoff game is the act of a man preparing to shoot his way out of town. Lamar’s on the carousel.

Saints: They desperately need a cap reset but who the hell knows what they will actually do. They’re stuck with Taysom Hill for another year, but I’m putting Jameis Winston on the carousel.

Seahawks: Geno Smith is a free agent and won’t be tagged.

Texans. Even though they’re picking 2nd, I still think they’ll address the position through the draft, though they’ll likely sign a veteran QB to push the new kid. Davis Mills to the carousel; they won’t want a guy in camp who commands the loyalty of some of the team’s veterans.

Titans: Ryan Tannehill’s 2023 cap number is $36.6m with a dead cap number of $18.8m. Not putting on the carousel because I think a restructure is mutually beneficial and will get done.

On the carousel (in alphabetical order, likely starters in bold):

Tom Brady
Derek Carr

Sam Darnold
Jimmy Garoppolo
Jared Goff

Taylor Heineke
Lamar Jackson
Daniel Jones

Baker Mayfield
Davis Mills
Gardner Minshew
Matt Ryan
Geno Smith
Carson Wentz
Zach Wilson
Jameis Winston

Among the bolded names, only Carr and Jimmy G are locks to change teams; Brady could retire, and the others could return to their current teams. But there’s the potential for a ton of movement.
Jacoby Brissett should be on that list, he's a FA and showed significantly more this year than at least half the names on that list... someone is going to at least let him compete for a starter slot.
 

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Mainly I think that Harbaugh and BB like similar players. BB always pined after Ed Reed, he snatched up Judon, and further back the brought in Adalius Thomas. They both love fullbacks; BB would throw Patricia into a live volcano to have a Patrick Ricard. And they both seem to have trouble staffing the WR position in the modern era of football :( I guess BB being the ultimate football guy would love to coach a guy like Lamar who's so dissimilar to any other QB he's ever coached. I think he'd love the challenge.

Edit - Justin Bethel too.
Adalius Thomas signed with the Pats a year before Harbaugh was a Ravens coach. Otherwise, well made point.
 

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Miami doesn't have a decent young QB anymore. Do you remember Eric Lindros? Once you get a few concussions, they become increasingly easy to get. Tua will never play a full NFL season again.
Well I said it obviously depends on Tua being healthy. But even if he isn't, the other half of the equation was that Brady is worth throwing a huge amount of money at to fill a void. I'm certainly not in the majority around here when it comes to evaluating Brady but I watched him a few times this season and he hardly looked like the guy you'd back the truck up for to put you over the top.
 

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Man, Lamar's Instagram post was just the worst. I don't even fault the guy for protecting his health and having beef with the Ravens, but don't act like a passive-aggressive teenager.
 

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Man, Lamar's Instagram post was just the worst. I don't even fault the guy for protecting his health and having beef with the Ravens, but don't act like a passive-aggressive teenager.
So don't act like his coach?
 

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I think Goff might get extended.

One thing to watch on the Ravens..... I think there is a non-zero chance there is a new Head Coach in BAL next year. Lot of discontent in the locker room and fanbase, 1 playoff win in the last 8 seasons....
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Mainly I think that Harbaugh and BB like similar players. BB always pined after Ed Reed, he snatched up Judon, and further back the brought in Adalius Thomas. They both love fullbacks; BB would throw Patricia into a live volcano to have a Patrick Ricard. And they both seem to have trouble staffing the WR position in the modern era of football :( I guess BB being the ultimate football guy would love to coach a guy like Lamar who's so dissimilar to any other QB he's ever coached. I think he'd love the challenge.

Edit - Justin Bethel too.
Probably more Ozzie than Harbaugh. Belichick basically built the Ravens' scouting infrastructure in Cleveland. There's definitely a good amount of overlap.
 

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Pats had him in pre-draft, Lamar said it was a really good visit, and BB has always praised him.

Some notes here: Why didn't the Patriots draft Lamar Jackson? Bill Belichick's praise of Ravens QB has many revisiting 2018 NFL Draft | Sporting News
Any time you can take a RB over a potentially elite QB, you kind of have to do it smh. I just don't think McDaniels (or BB, or whoever) values mobility or something. He designed his offense around Brady & then passed on opportunities like LJax or trading up for Fields to have a QB depth chart of Brady/Hoyer/Etling & then Mac/Hoyer.

If I had to guess where LJax ends up? Washington makes a lot of sense. Close by. Ravens can trade him out of conference, desperate for a QB, pretty good weapons. Can bring in an OC who can maximize Lamar's skills. Need something to turn the current PR surrounding the team around.
 

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Except there’s probably dozens of instances of NFL QBs suffering multiple concussions and still having productive and successful careers.

Tua had zero diagnosed concussions before this season. He has about 8 months to rest and heal before taking an NFL field again. Will it be something that may pop up again. For sure. Is his career over and should Miami be moving in from him because of this? Absolutely not.

Jaelen Phillips, Tua’s teammate, was forced to medically retire from UCLA due to multiple concussions. He hasn’t suffered one since in three seasons playing for UM or the Dolphins.
It is MUCH easier for Jaelen Phillips to avoid injury than it is for Tua.

I will donate $100 to the Jimmy Fund in your name if Tua plays 15 or more games for the Dolphins in any NFL season the rest of his career.

Well I said it obviously depends on Tua being healthy. But even if he isn't, the other half of the equation was that Brady is worth throwing a huge amount of money at to fill a void. I'm certainly not in the majority around here when it comes to evaluating Brady but I watched him a few times this season and he hardly looked like the guy you'd back the truck up for to put you over the top.
I suspect Brady will agree to a two-year deal with a voidable second year -- I don't think Miami needs to back up the truck. I don't disagree that Brady may be a little overrated ATM (I am still baffled by the end zone INT last night), but is there any other available QB you'd have more faith in? That's the rub.
 

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I can’t see Brady going to the NYJ and having to spend half the season in a cold weather stadium again, as well as the possibility of late season away games in Buffalo and/or Foxboro.
 

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I suspect Brady will agree to a two-year deal with a voidable second year -- I don't think Miami needs to back up the truck. I don't disagree that Brady may be a little overrated ATM (I am still baffled by the end zone INT last night), but is there any other available QB you'd have more faith in? That's the rub.
It's a tough question. I've always viewed Brady as overrated, which I know isn't popular around these parts. I don't see Miami in a desperate GFIN situation. Their core is hardly aging. So if Tua can't be relied upon I'd rather they look for a longer term solution than one year. I've always liked Jimmy G. I used to think Carr would step it up but I was wrong. I didn't have much confidence in Jones but he looked a lot better this year. So my answer is I have no idea. But I don't think overpaying Brady for one year makes a ton of sense either because I'm not convinced that he's the right guy at this point.
 

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Any time you can take a RB over a potentially elite QB, you kind of have to do it smh. I just don't think McDaniels (or BB, or whoever) values mobility or something. He designed his offense around Brady & then passed on opportunities like LJax or trading up for Fields to have a QB depth chart of Brady/Hoyer/Etling & then Mac/Hoyer.

If I had to guess where LJax ends up? Washington makes a lot of sense. Close by. Ravens can trade him out of conference, desperate for a QB, pretty good weapons. Can bring in an OC who can maximize Lamar's skills. Need something to turn the current PR surrounding the team around.
My guess is that BB (and then Josh by osmosis) realized, going all the way back to Michael Bishop, that it doesn't make sense to have your backup QB have a completely different style of play to your starter -- too much has to change for the other 10+ players should you need to make that change. It's better to have Matt Cassel or Jimmy G who can step in and basically do a pale imitation of your starter than to expect everyone to change.
 

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My guess is that BB (and then Josh by osmosis) realized, going all the way back to Michael Bishop, that it doesn't make sense to have your backup QB have a completely different style of play to your starter -- too much has to change for the other 10+ players should you need to make that change. It's better to have Matt Cassel or Jimmy G who can step in and basically do a pale imitation of your starter than to expect everyone to change.
Bishop ran a 4.85 40 & was a 7th round pick (& was drafted by Bobby Grier).

Is there any evidence that's true in terms of results? Also, Brady was 41 when LJax was drafted. & they didn't have a starter (unless you count Cam) 2 years ago when they drafted Mac rather than trading up for Fields.
 

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It's a tough question. I've always viewed Brady as overrated, which I know isn't popular around these parts. I don't see Miami in a desperate GFIN situation. Their core is hardly aging. So if Tua can't be relied upon I'd rather they look for a longer term solution than one year. I've always liked Jimmy G. I used to think Carr would step it up but I was wrong. I didn't have much confidence in Jones but he looked a lot better this year. So my answer is I have no idea. But I don't think overpaying Brady for one year makes a ton of sense either because I'm not convinced that he's the right guy at this point.
I'm not a capologist but I think Miami's roster building has been GFIN. They spent a lot of money to put as much talent around Tua as possible while he is on his rookie deal. Hill, Chubb, Armstead, etc. It basically worked, they were 8-4 in games he started and the season likely goes a different path if he stayed healthy.

While the roster seems relatively young, I think it's hard to take a real long term approach in the NFL. There's so much volatility and roster turnover year to year. Maybe you find the answer at QB in 2-3 years but by then Hill is 30-31 and maybe has lost a step, Waddle's left for big money elsewhere. Or the impatient owener has cleaned house and the coaching staff is being rebuilt again. They have the infrastructure to win now. Jimmy G is just as much, if not more, or an injury problem than Tua. Carr is fine; Brady is much better.
 

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I'm not a capologist but I think Miami's roster building has been GFIN. They spent a lot of money to put as much talent around Tua as possible while he is on his rookie deal. Hill, Chubb, Armstead, etc. It basically worked, they were 8-4 in games he started and the season likely goes a different path if he stayed healthy.

While the roster seems relatively young, I think it's hard to take a real long term approach in the NFL. There's so much volatility and roster turnover year to year. Maybe you find the answer at QB in 2-3 years but by then Hill is 30-31 and maybe has lost a step, Waddle's left for big money elsewhere. Or the impatient owener has cleaned house and the coaching staff is being rebuilt again. They have the infrastructure to win now. Jimmy G is just as much, if not more, or an injury problem than Tua. Carr is fine; Brady is much better.
That's fair. I'm no capologist either. There is no great option at the moment. The best case scenario is that Tua will be ok but I'm not holding my breath.
 

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It is MUCH easier for Jaelen Phillips to avoid injury than it is for Tua.

I will donate $100 to the Jimmy Fund in your name if Tua plays 15 or more games for the Dolphins in any NFL season the rest of his career.
Tua hasn’t played 15 or more games in any season in his life, regardless of concussions.
 

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Seems like a lot of teams needs QBs and some famous ones may be on the move. Let’s take a look, I will use an asterisk if I feel like no movement

Bills: Allen*
Fish: Tua/Tommy
Pats: Mac/Tommy
Jets: Rodgers/Carr/Tommy/Jimmy

Colts: ? Draft
Titans: Tannehill (could be gone)
Jags: Sunshine*
Texans: Draft/ Mills

Chiefs: Pat*
Chargers: Herbert*
Raiders: ?/Tommy/Rodgers
Broncos: Russ*

Steelers: Kenny*
Ravens: Lamar (no asterisk but likely)
Bengals: Joe Cool*
Browns: Watson*

Giants: Dimes (likely)
Eagles: Hurts*
Cowboys: Dak*
Commanders: ?

Bucs: ?
Panthers: ? Sam draft
Falcons: ? draft
Saints: ? draft

9ers: Purdy/Lance/Jimmy
Seattle: Geno/draft
Rams: Stafford
Cardinals: Kyler*

Packers: Rodgers/Love
Vikes: Cousins*
Lions: Goff/draft
Bears: Fields* (I would trade him and draft Stroud but I don’t think they will).

More thoughts later. Anyone disagree with asterisks (either direction)?
 

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Seems like a lot of teams needs QBs and some famous ones may be on the move. Let’s take a look, I will use an asterisk if I feel like no movement

Bills: Allen*
Fish: Tua/Tommy
Pats: Mac/Tommy
Jets: Rodgers/Carr/Tommy

Colts: ? Draft
Titans: Tannehill (could be gone)
Jags: Sunshine*
Texans: Draft/ Mills

Chiefs: Pat*
Chargers: Herbert*
Raiders: ?/Tommy/Rodgers
Broncos: Russ*

Steelers: Kenny*
Ravens: Lamar (no asterisk but likely)
Bengals: Joe Cool*
Browns: Watson*

Giants: Dimes (likely)
Eagles: Hurts*
Cowboys: Dak*
Commanders: ?

Bucs: ?
Panthers: ? Sam draft
Falcons: ? draft
Saints: ? draft

9ers: Purdy/Lance/Jimmy
Seattle: Geno/draft
Rams: Stafford
Cardinals: Kyler*

Packers: Rodgers/Love
Vikes: Cousins*
Lions: Stafford/draft
Bears: Fields* (I would trade him and draft Stroud but I don’t think they will).

More thoughts later. Anyone disagree with asterisks (either direction)?
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/2023-qb-carousel.38532/
 

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Forgot about this thread. Feel free to ignore this post, but want to use it to track the carousel.


I will use an asterisk if I feel like no movement

Bills: Allen*
Fish: Tua/Tommy
Pats: Mac/Tommy
Jets: Rodgers/Carr/Tommy/Jimmy/Lamar

Colts: ? Draft
Titans: Tannehill (could be gone)
Jags: Sunshine*
Texans: Draft/ Mills

Chiefs: Pat*
Chargers: Herbert*
Raiders: ?/Tommy/Rodgers
Broncos: Russ*

Steelers: Kenny*
Ravens: Lamar (no asterisk but likely)
Bengals: Joe Cool*
Browns: Watson*

Giants: Dimes (likely)
Eagles: Hurts*
Cowboys: Dak*
Commanders: ?

Bucs: ?
Panthers: ? Sam draft /Tommy
Falcons: ? draft
Saints: ? draft

9ers: Purdy/Lance/Jimmy
Seattle: Geno/draft
Rams: Stafford
Cardinals: Kyler*

Packers: Rodgers/Love
Vikes: Cousins*
Lions: Goff/draft
Bears: Fields* (I would trade him and draft Stroud but I don’t think they will).

More thoughts later. Anyone disagree with asterisks (either direction)?
 
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More thoughts later. Anyone disagree with asterisks (either direction)?
You can asterisk Purdy and Lance for the Niners. The Niners aren't going shopping for a QB.
According to Spotrac, Rodgers' 2023 dead cap money is just shy of $100m. I don't think the Packers have much of a choice but to keep him, do they? But still no asterisk anyway since he might retire.
 

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You can asterisk Purdy and Lance for the Niners. The Niners aren't going shopping for a QB.
According to Spotrac, Rodgers' 2023 dead cap money is just shy of $100m. I don't think the Packers have much of a choice but to keep him, do they? But still no asterisk anyway since he might retire.
Niners are set but neither guy is locked. Packers can trade Rodgers. Someone had the link earlier. This has been big story in NYC metro this week.

View: https://twitter.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1617885180089303046?s=46&t=U5BP8_-0_iUxk5ZuLYNxuQ
 

luckiestman

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My little exercise has shown mean the AFC North is kind of locked in and the NFC South is a mess. I can’t remember the last time things were this wild. Reminds me, Simmons was mentioning Brady to Panthers so I will slot him as a possibility there, too
 

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Seems like a lot of teams needs QBs and some famous ones may be on the move. Let’s take a look, I will use an asterisk if I feel like no movement

Bills: Allen*
Fish: Tua/Tommy
Pats: Mac/Tommy
Jets: Rodgers/Carr/Tommy/Jimmy

Colts: ? Draft
Titans: Tannehill (could be gone)
Jags: Sunshine*
Texans: Draft/ Mills

Chiefs: Pat*
Chargers: Herbert*
Raiders: ?/Tommy/Rodgers
Broncos: Russ*

Steelers: Kenny*
Ravens: Lamar (no asterisk but likely)
Bengals: Joe Cool*
Browns: Watson*

Giants: Dimes (likely)
Eagles: Hurts*
Cowboys: Dak*
Commanders: ?

Bucs: ?
Panthers: ? Sam draft
Falcons: ? draft
Saints: ? draft

9ers: Purdy/Lance/Jimmy
Seattle: Geno/draft
Rams: Stafford
Cardinals: Kyler*

Packers: Rodgers/Love
Vikes: Cousins*
Lions: Goff/draft
Bears: Fields* (I would trade him and draft Stroud but I don’t think they will).

More thoughts later. Anyone disagree with asterisks (either direction)?
Fish u have to throw in lamar if balt is ok getting 24 25 1st round from mia
Jets this is rogers if they dont mind waiting july or jimmy g baker before draft

Tenn Tanny will stay unlees brady wants in or d carr

raiders is brady plan a jimmy plan b sittett plan c
WC will go with howell a 5th round pick that was good last preseason
bucs jimmy or d carr
g-men d jones or carr
saints carr is the fav here


for brady LV NYJ MIA SF TENN
for Jimmy TB NYJ MIA TENN LV
for carr NO NYG TENN
 

luckiestman

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Fish u have to throw in lamar if balt is ok getting 24 25 1st round from mia
Jets this is rogers if they dont mind waiting july or jimmy g baker before draft

Tenn Tanny will stay unlees brady wants in or d carr

raiders is brady plan a jimmy plan b sittett plan c
WC will go with howell a 5th round pick that was good last preseason
bucs jimmy or d carr
g-men d jones or carr
saints carr is the fav here


for brady LV NYJ MIA SF TENN
for Jimmy TB NYJ MIA TENN LV
for carr NO NYG TENN
Hope you’re right about Rodgers. Howell I saw play against the Noles. He was good in college.

The thing about Carr is I think he has a no trade. So he could play hardball and I think Raiders would have to cut him or trade him where he wants to ho. Details probably in this thread: I’ll have to start at beginning and look thru.