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These guys qualified: Scheffler, Clark, Harman, Cantlay, Max, Xander

Next 4: Koepka, Spieth, Cam Young (Fred Couples already said they're picking Cam), Morikawa

That's 10 so 2 more to pick. In order of rankings:

Keegan
Burns
Rickie
Denny
JT
Glover

Burns hasn't been good for a while so he's out. Sorry, Denny, not this year. Ditto Lucas. So Rickie, Keegan and JT for the last 2 spots.

I'm on team JT. So then Rickie and Keegan. I *think* Rickie is the guy but Keegan winning this week certainly adds another layer to consider.

Edit: To be honest I'd boot one of Harman or Clark if I could and take both Rickie and Keegan but alas.
 

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Watching a baby take a shit on live television while his dad tries to give an interview was a real delight.

New Dad: “I’m not sure why he’s upset right now.”
Me: “Oh you sweet summer child. That’s no upset face.”
 
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Scores this week:
1. Hovland -12
Morikawa -12
3. Schauffle -11
4. Bradley. -10
5. Schenk. -8
Straka -8
 

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I know I might be the only one watching this, but Rory has hit the duffer's trifecta thus far on the par 5 16th in the Irish Open --- in the water, out of bounds, in the bunker -- and then sunk a 15-footer for an 8
 

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Lexi is my favorite female golfer, but I don't understand why they continue to do this. It was fun and novel the first few times, but she won't even sniff the cut.

It will probably work to get me to watch, though, because I love watching her play.
 

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I'll be rooting for her, but I think it'd be far more interesting if they did a mixed event and the women played from their tee's.
 

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I'll be rooting for her, but I think it'd be far more interesting if they did a mixed event and the women played from their tee's.
That's actually super interesting. It would be fascinating to do a Ryder Cup kind of event, but with mixed gender teams, with women playing from shorter tees. No reason at all (that I can see) why this wouldn't work.
 

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Lexi is my favorite female golfer, but I don't understand why they continue to do this. It was fun and novel the first few times, but she won't even sniff the cut.

It will probably work to get me to watch, though, because I love watching her play.
I'll check in on how she fares but she's not a great pick for this given her obvious short game issues under any sort of pressure. She's one of the longer women but her 270 yd driving average slots in dead last among PGA Tour qualifiers.

The women are getting much longer in recent years (driving leader is 280+) but at this point I think one would have to be a serious once in a lifetime talent like a Tiger to have any chance of actually holding their own consistently with the men. Skill-wise the top of the LPGA tour might be able to hang with the 90s era PGA Tour.
 

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I'll check in on how she fares but she's not a great pick for this given her obvious short game issues under any sort of pressure. She's one of the longer women but her 270 yd driving average slots in dead last among PGA Tour qualifiers.

The women are getting much longer in recent years (driving leader is 280+) but at this point I think one would have to be a serious once in a lifetime talent like a Tiger to have any chance of actually holding their own consistently with the men. Skill-wise the top of the LPGA tour might be able to hang with the 90s era PGA Tour.
I think it's a long shot for a woman to ever make a cut on the PGA Tour, nevermind actually "hold their own".
 

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I think it's a long shot for a woman to ever make a cut on the PGA Tour, nevermind actually "hold their own".
Yeah the distance gap is too much to overcome, it's not a fair fight. Lexi's best is going to be 30+ yards behind the average PGA Tour player. Her hitting long and mid irons into greens while the men are hitting short irons and wedges is in all likelihood too much to overcome. The only way she can compete is basically making every putt.

The DP World Tour has the Scandanavian Open with they turned into a mixed tournament a few years ago and it seems to work really well. The field is half men, half women and they play their respective tees. It's all one leaderboard, prize money, rankings/Tour points, etc. Linn Grant won it by 9 in 2022. The leaderboard usually has women in contention and in the top 10/20 etc. I think it would be great if the PGA Tour and LPGA Tour worked something like this into the schedule. It would be great exposure for the women's game and showcase how good they are. I feel like these one-off's where Lexi, Michelle Wie West, etc, tee it up and get toasted does more harm than good for the women's game.
 

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I took "holding their own" as meaning competing on tour week in and week out, if you meant simply making the cut then we agree.

Unless there is some type of Leah Thompson type scenario which would be a whole other type of clusterfuck.
Who is Leah Thompson?
 

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I took "holding their own" as meaning competing on tour week in and week out, if you meant simply making the cut then we agree.

Unless there is some type of Leah Thompson type scenario which would be a whole other type of clusterfuck.
I guess I would define holding their own as being able to maintain a tour card under the same rules as everyone else on tour. I don't agree regularly being in contention is holding one's own on tour. That's top of the world talent.
 

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I think it's a long shot for a woman to ever make a cut on the PGA Tour, nevermind actually "hold their own".
Just for the record's sake, it has happened -- Babe Didrikson Zaharias back in the mid-40s. But, overall, it would be extremely unlikely in the modern game unless it's in a mixed tournament as described above.
 

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Annika is probably the only data point here and she MC'd in her only PGA Tour event. Obviously tiny sample size but she's a one-in-a-lifetime player in the women's game.

Michelle Wie West went 0-7 in cuts made on the PGA Tour though she did shoot a couple of 68's at the Sony (amazingly once as a 14 year old and missed the cut by only 1 shot). She never really was a generational type talent and a bunch of her starts came when she was really young.
 

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Annika is probably the only data point here and she MC'd in her only PGA Tour event. Obviously tiny sample size but she's a one-in-a-lifetime player in the women's game.

Michelle Wie West went 0-7 in cuts made on the PGA Tour though she did shoot a couple of 68's at the Sony (amazingly once as a 14 year old and missed the cut by only 1 shot). She never really was a generational type talent and a bunch of her starts came when she was really young.
Actually Michelle Wie was a generational talent, she just never was able to put it all together as she got older
 

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Lexi shot a +2 73 in the opening round of the Shriner's. Currently at T104 having just started the 2nd round (made a bogey on 1).
 

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She is -2 though 6 on her second round to get back to E for the tournament, currently T72. Cut is going to be around -1 or -2.
 

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The PGA Tour site has Lexi averaging 305 off the tee this week (107th in the field). The LPGA Tour has Lexi's average driving distance at 270. I know the stats and shotlink and things like that are way behind on the LPGA but is it really that far off?
 

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The PGA Tour site has Lexi averaging 305 off the tee this week (107th in the field). The LPGA Tour has Lexi's average driving distance at 270. I know the stats and shotlink and things like that are way behind on the LPGA but is it really that far off?
Could the shorter LPGA courses limit her use of length?