2023 PGA Tour

[cshea]

These guys qualified: Scheffler, Clark, Harman, Cantlay, Max, Xander

Next 4: Koepka, Spieth, Cam Young (Fred Couples already said they're picking Cam), Morikawa

That's 10 so 2 more to pick. In order of rankings:

Keegan
Burns
Rickie
Denny
JT
Glover

Burns hasn't been good for a while so he's out. Sorry, Denny, not this year. Ditto Lucas. So Rickie, Keegan and JT for the last 2 spots.

I'm on team JT. So then Rickie and Keegan. I *think* Rickie is the guy but Keegan winning this week certainly adds another layer to consider.

Edit: To be honest I'd boot one of Harman or Clark if I could and take both Rickie and Keegan but alas.

 

[cshea]

It looks to be about 6,000 degrees at the course today.

 

[snowmanny]

I withdraw my earlier stupid complaint because this is great and it’s Friday.

 

[cshea]

Vik might runaway with it

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

Sadly, the Schenker looked at the scoreboard and proceeded to pee down his leg. He’ll likely have a good round tomorrow now that he’s irrelevant again.

 

[johnmd20]

Gonna be 97 degrees at the high today. 105 heat index. Hopefully Glover is wearing black.

 

[mostman]

Watching a baby take a shit on live television while his dad tries to give an interview was a real delight.

New Dad: “I’m not sure why he’s upset right now.”
Me: “Oh you sweet summer child. That’s no upset face.”

 

[Mooch]

Gonna be 97 degrees at the high today. 105 heat index. Hopefully Glover is wearing black.

99 here in Decatur, less than a mile from the course. It’s brutal here.

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

Watching a baby take a shit on live television while his dad tries to give an interview was a real delight.

The whole Schenk family rules!!

 

[johnmd20]

Schefty is having a tough day. 0 birdies. 3 bogeys.

 

[voidfunkt]

They're running out of sunlight... why is this so slow today? Leaders went out at 3

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

They're running out of sunlight... why is this so slow today? Leaders went out at 3

There was a weather delay

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

Vik might runaway with it

Nice call

 

[voidfunkt]

There was a weather delay

Oh. Missed it I guess, switched to the Sox for awhile

 

[snowmanny]

Scores this week:
1. Hovland -12
Morikawa -12
3. Schauffle -11
4. Bradley. -10
5. Schenk. -8
Straka -8

 

[mostman]

I had 6 units on Hovland to win. Today was fun.

 

[Lose Remerswaal]

Walker Cup action on Golf Channel reminds me I miss the word Dormie

 

[E5 Yaz]

I know I might be the only one watching this, but Rory has hit the duffer's trifecta thus far on the par 5 16th in the Irish Open --- in the water, out of bounds, in the bunker -- and then sunk a 15-footer for an 8

 

[joe dokes]

Patrick Reed sued a bunch of people for defamation. Case dismissed for failing to state a claim for relief:
Patrick Reed defamation suits dismissed with prejudice by federal judge - The Washington Post

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23993287/patrick-reed-order-defamation-case.pdf

 

[cshea]

Lexi Thompson will play in the Shriner's next week on a sponsor's exemption.

View: https://twitter.com/PGATOUR/status/1709561509628588383?s=20

 

[FL4WL3SS]

Lexi is my favorite female golfer, but I don't understand why they continue to do this. It was fun and novel the first few times, but she won't even sniff the cut.

It will probably work to get me to watch, though, because I love watching her play.

 

[cshea]

I'll be rooting for her, but I think it'd be far more interesting if they did a mixed event and the women played from their tee's.

 

[BaseballJones]

I'll be rooting for her, but I think it'd be far more interesting if they did a mixed event and the women played from their tee's.

That's actually super interesting. It would be fascinating to do a Ryder Cup kind of event, but with mixed gender teams, with women playing from shorter tees. No reason at all (that I can see) why this wouldn't work.

 

[Comfortably Lomb]

Lexi is my favorite female golfer, but I don't understand why they continue to do this. It was fun and novel the first few times, but she won't even sniff the cut.

It will probably work to get me to watch, though, because I love watching her play.

I'll check in on how she fares but she's not a great pick for this given her obvious short game issues under any sort of pressure. She's one of the longer women but her 270 yd driving average slots in dead last among PGA Tour qualifiers.

The women are getting much longer in recent years (driving leader is 280+) but at this point I think one would have to be a serious once in a lifetime talent like a Tiger to have any chance of actually holding their own consistently with the men. Skill-wise the top of the LPGA tour might be able to hang with the 90s era PGA Tour.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

I'll check in on how she fares but she's not a great pick for this given her obvious short game issues under any sort of pressure. She's one of the longer women but her 270 yd driving average slots in dead last among PGA Tour qualifiers.

The women are getting much longer in recent years (driving leader is 280+) but at this point I think one would have to be a serious once in a lifetime talent like a Tiger to have any chance of actually holding their own consistently with the men. Skill-wise the top of the LPGA tour might be able to hang with the 90s era PGA Tour.

I think it's a long shot for a woman to ever make a cut on the PGA Tour, nevermind actually "hold their own".

 

[Comfortably Lomb]

I think it's a long shot for a woman to ever make a cut on the PGA Tour, nevermind actually "hold their own".

So... one might say a once in a lifetime type of talent like a Tiger would qualify as a "long shot?"

 

[cshea]

I think it's a long shot for a woman to ever make a cut on the PGA Tour, nevermind actually "hold their own".

Yeah the distance gap is too much to overcome, it's not a fair fight. Lexi's best is going to be 30+ yards behind the average PGA Tour player. Her hitting long and mid irons into greens while the men are hitting short irons and wedges is in all likelihood too much to overcome. The only way she can compete is basically making every putt.

The DP World Tour has the Scandanavian Open with they turned into a mixed tournament a few years ago and it seems to work really well. The field is half men, half women and they play their respective tees. It's all one leaderboard, prize money, rankings/Tour points, etc. Linn Grant won it by 9 in 2022. The leaderboard usually has women in contention and in the top 10/20 etc. I think it would be great if the PGA Tour and LPGA Tour worked something like this into the schedule. It would be great exposure for the women's game and showcase how good they are. I feel like these one-off's where Lexi, Michelle Wie West, etc, tee it up and get toasted does more harm than good for the women's game.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

So... one might say a once in a lifetime type of talent like a Tiger would qualify as a "long shot?"

I took "holding their own" as meaning competing on tour week in and week out, if you meant simply making the cut then we agree.

Unless there is some type of Leah Thompson type scenario which would be a whole other type of clusterfuck.

 

[BaseballJones]

I took "holding their own" as meaning competing on tour week in and week out, if you meant simply making the cut then we agree.

Unless there is some type of Leah Thompson type scenario which would be a whole other type of clusterfuck.

Who is Leah Thompson?

 

[Comfortably Lomb]

I took "holding their own" as meaning competing on tour week in and week out, if you meant simply making the cut then we agree.

Unless there is some type of Leah Thompson type scenario which would be a whole other type of clusterfuck.

I guess I would define holding their own as being able to maintain a tour card under the same rules as everyone else on tour. I don't agree regularly being in contention is holding one's own on tour. That's top of the world talent.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

I guess I would define holding their own as being able to maintain a tour card under the same rules as everyone else on tour. I don't agree regularly being in contention is holding one's own on tour. That's top of the world talent.

Ok then we disagree, I don't think a once in a lifetime female could hold a tour card.

 

[voidfunkt]

Who is Leah Thompson?

Transgender Woman Swimmer

I'm not sure how the LPGA would deal with that but it's probably going to happen at some point.

 

[BaseballJones]

Transgender Woman Swimmer

I'm not sure how the LPGA would deal with that but it's probably going to happen at some point.

Oh. That's Lia Thomas.

 

[E5 Yaz]

I think it's a long shot for a woman to ever make a cut on the PGA Tour, nevermind actually "hold their own".

Just for the record's sake, it has happened -- Babe Didrikson Zaharias back in the mid-40s. But, overall, it would be extremely unlikely in the modern game unless it's in a mixed tournament as described above.

 

[cshea]

Annika is probably the only data point here and she MC'd in her only PGA Tour event. Obviously tiny sample size but she's a one-in-a-lifetime player in the women's game.

Michelle Wie West went 0-7 in cuts made on the PGA Tour though she did shoot a couple of 68's at the Sony (amazingly once as a 14 year old and missed the cut by only 1 shot). She never really was a generational type talent and a bunch of her starts came when she was really young.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

Annika is probably the only data point here and she MC'd in her only PGA Tour event. Obviously tiny sample size but she's a one-in-a-lifetime player in the women's game.

Michelle Wie West went 0-7 in cuts made on the PGA Tour though she did shoot a couple of 68's at the Sony (amazingly once as a 14 year old and missed the cut by only 1 shot). She never really was a generational type talent and a bunch of her starts came when she was really young.

Actually Michelle Wie was a generational talent, she just never was able to put it all together as she got older

 

[cshea]

That's fair, I was just basing it on what her pro career ended up being.

 

[cshea]

The OWGR officially denied LIV's application to receive ranking points.

View: https://twitter.com/NoLayingUp/status/1711802602277535910?s=20

 

[cshea]

Lexi shot a +2 73 in the opening round of the Shriner's. Currently at T104 having just started the 2nd round (made a bogey on 1).

 

[FL4WL3SS]

Lexi shot a +2 73 in the opening round of the Shriner's. Currently at T104 having just started the 2nd round (made a bogey on 1).

+2 is about what I'd expect, she's a scratch golfer on the PGA and a +6 on the LPGA.

Still pretty impressive.

 

[cshea]

She is -2 though 6 on her second round to get back to E for the tournament, currently T72. Cut is going to be around -1 or -2.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

She'll be done before live coverage starts

 

[cshea]

She'll be done before live coverage starts

If you have ESPN+ they have her in a featured group.

 

[cshea]

Lexi just made a 25 footer on #10 to get to -3 for the round and -1 for the tournament. On the cutline.

 

[ezemerson]

Lexi just made a 25 footer on #10 to get to -3 for the round and -1 for the tournament. On the cutline.

and how about a 28-footer to get to -2

 

[Dan Murfman]

2 under 7 to go

 

[cshea]

Let's go Lexi!

 

[cshea]

The PGA Tour site has Lexi averaging 305 off the tee this week (107th in the field). The LPGA Tour has Lexi's average driving distance at 270. I know the stats and shotlink and things like that are way behind on the LPGA but is it really that far off?

 

[Lose Remerswaal]

Is she maybe hitting her Driver more this week due to length where she would only need 3 Wood or something else on the LPGA course?

 

[joe dokes]

The PGA Tour site has Lexi averaging 305 off the tee this week (107th in the field). The LPGA Tour has Lexi's average driving distance at 270. I know the stats and shotlink and things like that are way behind on the LPGA but is it really that far off?

Could the shorter LPGA courses limit her use of length?