i believe Rodgers when he says he was leaning heavily towards retirement before his darkness retreat. I think he knew his time in Green Bay was up.
I feel like you just want this to be true despite all evidence pointing to the fact that Rodgers is exactly the kind of petty, monomaniacal, Bradyesque psycho who has created revenge narratives to motivate him his entire career.
The corpse of Russell Wilson wasn't worse than Mac in 2022, has a better track record of success and now is being coached by Sean Payton. I wouldn't count on Pickett being better than Mac next year either, but I do think in his final six starts last year he showed some play making potential that I guess you could buy over Mac's Steady Eddy game. But yeah, it it concerning that the only two teams with starters set to be 100% worse than Mac Jones in the Conference next year will likely be drafting QBs in the top 4.
Wow. I'm kind of surprised Brunell never got an MVP vote during those great Jacksonville years. But yeah.
He probably would under the new system, but up until last year writers only chose one single player for MVP and he wasn't ever close to being the best player in the league. Actually, Trevor Lawrence got one 4th and one 5th place MVP vote last season, but I guess they're counting only first place to make it more even.
Trying to think if there were any instances where somebody should've gotten at least one vote during that span. Curtis Martin? Freeman McNeil? Reaching, but maybe Testaverde in '98?
Voters never think this way, but there were years Revis should have gotten a vote.
Yeah, that's another possibility. He certainly had a couple of dominant seasons that could've warranted some votes.
I could have pictured some partisan NYC media hacks giving Mark Gastineau a vote or two way back when.
He was also the MVP two years ago (though Brady probably should have been so chosen), and while his overall performance was substandard, he did look like himself at times. He did make throws that were in the "how the f did he do that" category, and he showed, to me at least, that he's still very talented.
This is the kind of optimism we need!
The Jets are going to be good imo, now that this main piece has fallen into place you will see all the little signings, that like we used to enjoy take place, with players looking to sign onto a contender. They also have good positioning in the draft with not a ton of holes to fill out, people better be prepared to watch the Jets be a good team for at minimum the next couple of years imo.
One year.
From the Jets POV, what exactly was their alternative pathway to building a contending roster? And most rosters turn over within a few years anyways, so…whatever?
Yes, exactly. Who is their QB a year from now, two years from now? Maybe Wilson benefits from being out of the spotlight and just practicing for the next year or two, but if the Jets don't win it all soon, this will just be another in the long parade of disappointments.
They have backs. They need to grab a tackle, and I'm not sure the calculus changed much on that. There are a few to go around at this spot in the draft.
First of all, that’s an amazing stat. Secondly that whole 1972 vote is weird. Was there an actual deserving MVP that year? Two votes for Packers kicker Chester Marcol? I have no recollection of a kicker ever getting an MVP vote.
Back when a 6-3 game wasn't unusual, a kicker might be your most valuable player.
That’s why I said they have to win a Super Bowl. You know, like the Bucs did.
That wasn’t really my point; the point was that the Jets are now a relevant contender whereas they were not a week ago and would not be with the alternative to Rodgers. You are vastly overrating the importance of the conditional first and the second to their short or long-term trajectory, while understating the risk of going several more years without an answer, much less one as good as Rodgers, at the most important position.
Did the Bucs have a better talent nucleus than these Jets? Not so sure about that.
I think the big difference for Brady was the presence of the veteran receivers (plus Gronk). That would be kind of like Adams coming to join Rodgers. Lazard is nowhere close to that level. The defenses are comparable. Brady also had the benefit (for him and other vets) of the weird COVID year. His mental toughness gave him an edge in that chaos, I think.
No way does 2020 Gronk remotely compare to current day Davante Adams. As a receiver at that stage he actually is a lot more comparable to Lazard.
I meant the whole group (Evans, Goodwin, Gronk, Brown). Adding Adams to Wilson and co would be the comparison.
Probably not that or 98 either because of OLine but the QB makes a big difference.
3 years ago would have loved it. Keep trying to win rings.
Pretty good. Would lead to a way more competitive team for the next two seasons and I don't think they'll be in a great spot to contend with Mac Jones in 2025 anyway. If they could do the same deal the Jets did and flipped Mac Jones for a second rounder, then we'd be talking basically a 2024 first round pick for two years of Rodgers. Then you draft the next guy.
I'd definitely be talking myself into it. I personally find Rodgers' arrogance to be very annoying, but there's no doubting his talent and track record. And as a partnership, him and BB would be fascinating.
I'm not sold that Rodgers has enough left in the tank to be a difference-maker. His ANY/A last year was absolute junk and he's 39. Would not have been psyched.
Rodgers was hurt almost all of last season. His receivers were pretty horrendous, too, especially considering they lost Adams from the previous few years.
Who says that he's not one of the best ever? So was Joe Montana, and I wouldn't want Belichick to sign him to play QB either.
